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Just because the Ecopia came as stock? This is the biggest fallacy in the market. Dont need to change tyres just for the heck of it. In all probability, the difference between the Earth 1 and the Ecopia will be ZERO. And you would have lost thousands of rupees replacing a good tyre with another tyre which is exactly equal. Dont be stupid. Retain your stock tyres. | |
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| ![]() +1. I have always had an excellent experience with Bridgestone tyres across various types of cars ( SUV, sedans and hatchbacks) and you should retain them on your new Honda City. Also, I am not clear how you will get additional 5mm of GC, since the aspect ratio has not changed? |
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A significant number of people were advocating the tyre upgrade as the stock tyres were deemed insufficient. I'd like to hear more from you if possible, considering you operate Madhus, a place for tyres. | |
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I wanted to understand how these tires are because they were offered as an option guess they don't make sense. Especially since they are just Rs 1000 less than Pilot Sport 4. Grip levels is a subjective thing, currently, I am running 195 and I really enjoy that they break traction sometimes during hard acceleration in a straight line. I've had the tires start spinning from 60~80kph shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear at times when I hit the white lines on the road. Its a lot of fun to let it slide around a bit. Quote:
I guess you are right no use looking at these especially if the price difference is a meagre 1000. I will look at other tubeless non-performance tire options as-well. | ||
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Regarding the GC, the aspect ratio hasn't changed but the width has, from 185mm to 195mm. Therefore, the increase will be (195-185) x 55% equals 5.5mm. This is not exact science, but this has been my understanding so far. | |
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| ![]() The Ecopia is decent. I may not choose it if I have to buy a set of tyres but frankly, the miniscule difference between that and a set of Earth 1s doesnt justify the thousands of rupees you are going to spend. You can save the money and go all out for Michelins after 35k kms or so |
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Might it be worth it to upgrade to Michelins if the budget somehow allowed for it? To rephrase the question, what according to you, would be a prospective price of the Michelins that would make the change seem sensible? ![]() | |
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| ![]() Nope. Nothing is worth an upgrade from the Apollos. Dont go by reviews online. Most reviews are of people comparing worn out tyres at the end of their lives with brand new Michelins or Yokohamas or whatever. Brand new Apollos to Brand new anything else wont be worth the money unless the brand new something is some super high end tyre like Michelin PS4 or Yokohama Advan Sports (which arent available in your size). I think I've explained enough! It feels like I'm repeating the same things again and again! |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Not the point. The stock car with those tyres will do just as well with Apollos or Bridgestones. Your car does not need any upgrade (why do you need more GC anyway!), use the stock tyres and replace them with something considerably better once they wear out. Last edited by rocksterraghu : 12th March 2018 at 12:36. Reason: Typo |
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Came to 5K per tire incising alignment, balancing and discount for the unused 5th tire (1000/-). Have to look for 5th alloy so I can do 5 wheel rotation. You've been a great help for me. Thank you again. | |
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| ![]() Chanced upon this thread about a week ago and realized that my Fiesta Classic, which I so far thought of as still new, was 4 years old and had covered 65K kms on XM2s, which I had put in the day I got the car. So got down on my knees and checked the tyres, which still looked as if they could go another 10-15k without any problems. The only obvious signs of age and wear were those very fine, probably superficial, cracks or scratches on the treads. However, reading these posts made me think that maybe the ride has become a bit noisier and harder than usual and could it be because of the age and kms run? Anyhow, since 65k kms was more than what most of you guys recommend for a tyre change I carefully weighed the pros and cons of the XM2 vs the Earth 1 and after going through this thread as well as two others on tyre and wheel upgrades for the Figo and Fiesta, decided on XM2 over the Earth 1. So, got four new tyres this morning at Rs. 5150 each (185/65 R14) and another Rs. 2400 for new valves, WA, WB. The difference in comfort, sound and handling was apparent as soon as I left the tyre shop and this woke me up to the fact that I didn’t notice the slowly deteriorating condition of my tyres over time and only realized it after taking action on reading about it on these pages. So, thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences. Cheers |
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| ![]() Hello BHPians, My Dzire vxi is due for a tyre change. I am thinking about going for an upsize from 165/80 r14 to 185/70 r14. I am confused between Yokohama Earth 1, Bridgestone Turanza AR20 and Michelin Energy XM2. The car is mostly driven on highway with a hint of city driving as well (9:1 ratio). Could you please give some advice regarding the upgrade as all the three tyres cost more or less same. ![]() |
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NB:I have little info on AR20. Hence not commenting on that. Meanwhile, Fellow TBHPians, I have shortlisted XM2, B290 and Earth 1 for my Honda Amaze. Upgrading to 185/65/R14 from Goodyear 175/65/R4 which has done 36k kms. I do two long drives a month (1000 kms each), drive mostly at nights via ghats and don't want to get stuck during odd hours with a tyre burst. My priority in decreasing order are safety, FE, comfort and road noise. And i am not a sedate driver though i used to extract 23 to 28 kmpl on these drives. Your suggestions are most welcome. Last edited by ampere : 26th March 2018 at 09:12. Reason: back to back posts merged | |
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| ![]() Need a suggestion for my Toyota Liva TRD Sportivo (with stock body kit). I'm in line for replacing my tyres. The stock one's are Bridgestone Turanza (A10 I think) 185/60/R15. Planning to do an upgrade to 195/60/R15. Couple things I wanted to know as i'm getting mixed responses : 1. Is it worth making an upgrade from 185 - 195? Some of the dealers say it might effect the turning radius & Power steering. Others say it's not a problem if you upgrade. Your thoughts? 2. Couple of my friends who are on Yokohama/Michelin say these tyres are the best in the market now. Whether I opt for 185/195, would you recommend to switch to Yokohama/Michelin or any other? If not should I stick to Bridgestone only? |
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