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Anyway its not an issue as it is not safe to drive at >110/120 kmph however good our roads are due to the significant braking distance needed at these speeds to bring the vehicle to a halt if the situation demands. | |
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If you've covered 25k or 30k kms, it makes sense to take the plunge and change all 4. If it is just 10k or so, then just get one Goodyear and use that on the rear of the car. I am always in favour of replacing tyres as a full set of 4. Not just 2. Of course, changing two is better than 1, but I always like ot think that all 4 corners of my car have the same grip and will react the same way when I slam the brakes in an emergency. | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() I wanted to upgrade my stock City ZXi VTEC plus rims to 15". Does Honda India have a 15" rim in their accessories? Does anyone have any information on what the rim width of the stock City wheels is? |
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V comes with 175/65 (sidewall~113.75mm) and VX/ZX comes with 185/55 (sidewall~101.75mm) Maybe it's also the tyre compound - MRF ZVTV on the V versus Bridgestone Ecopia EP150 on the VX/ZX. After two recent near misses on highways where the tyres squealed at sudden deceleration from both 120 and even 60, I've lost confidence in the EP150s and thus, tyres have moved to being first on my list of upgrades, trumping PPF. I want better braking, ride comfort and GC, even at the cost of handling. Shortlisted the following tyres in R16 itself Apollo Alnac 4G - 195/55 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 205/50 or 205/55 (if the suspension allows) Michelin Primacy 4 - 205/55 (if the suspension allows) Michelin XM2 - 195/55 MRF Perfinza - 205/55 (if the suspension allows) Yokohama Earth1 - 195/55 My heart says Perfinza, especially after DBHPian Nikhilb2008's outstanding impression of them, but the mind isn't sure about whether there is enough clearance at the wheel wells and struts. Unfortunately 205/55 is the lowest size that the Perfinza comes in for 16 inch wheels. | |
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| ![]() I recently updated tyres of my 2017 city ZX idtec from the oem bridgestone ecopia 185/55 R16 to Continental MC5 195/55 R16. New tyre costed 6500/- each. So far the ride is good slightly more comfortable and cushy than the bridgestones. ![]() |
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| ![]() I am taking delivery of the Honda City V MT this month, and one of the main upgrades I am looking at are the tires. Some questions, especially for current users who have upgraded: 1. Are the 175 mm stock tires acceptable to use, or is an upgrade a must? Usage pattern will be 90% Bangalore city driving, highway drives for vacation one in a while. The car will not be driven very aggressively, some spirited runs every once in a while. 2. 195/60 R 15 seems to be the popular upgrade. Would Yoko Earth -1 be a good upgrade (I use this on my current Swift and quite happy with it), or would the pricier Michelins P4ST be a better choice - comfort and sturdiness of tires are the main priority. 3. Lastly, am I correct in assuming that the suspension warranty becomes void with the change in tire size? Other warranties (electrical, engine related etc) remain intact, correct? |
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| ![]() 1. 175mm stock tires are workable if you want to retain warranty. 2. 195/60R15 seems to provide a more grounded ride and better feedback. 3. Check with your dealer and service location regarding warranty voiding on tire upgrade. I upgraded after warranty period and the 175s were wearing out, so the difference in ride was more clear after upgrade. You will have to check with others about difference in ride if you switch new 175 to new 195. |
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| ![]() Like many others before me, I came to this thread looking for answers on what to do about the skinny OEM tyres on my (hopefully) soon to arrive Honda City. After spending a good deal of time to go over every post on this thread and another one here: [https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...e-thread.html] (Honda City : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread)), I found answers to most of my questions. Summarizing my findings, in case it helps others Why upsize? Many people have mentioned that City is under-tyred, and the fact many lower segment cars (for example, the Baleno and Ritz we currently own) have wider tyres further accentuates this feeling. Also, found a mention of insufficient grip on stock tyres Quote:
What are the options? A nice summary here [https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...l#post3355693] (4th gen. Honda City : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread), but I ruled out the option which lowers ground clearance (185/60 R15). Coming to the other two: * 185/65 R15: This adds 6.5mm to the radius (or GC if you want to think of it that way), but is more than the recommended 2% limit for change in radius/circumference. Just to put 6.5mm in context - 6.5mm is slightly lower than the tread depth of a new tyre (which is around 7-8mm). Having said that, I’m sure the 2% recommendation exists for a reason, so on to the next option. * 195/60 R15: This adds 3.25 mm to the radius and is well within the 2% margin and is the most recommended upsize on the forum. How well will 195 wide tyres fit on the stock alloys? The stock wheels on V (and below) are 5.5J. As per the table in this post [https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-...l#post2455265] (Does anyone buy a Honda City anymore?! Oops! I did-and fell in love with it!!), the ideal width of tyres on 5.5J wheels is 175 or 185, and the max is 195. Most of us wouldn’t want to use an equipment at the edge of it’s operating limits. But, practical experience and advice from experts tells us that there are no issues with upsizing to 195. Quoting a few examples: Quote:
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Any other issues? One small problem with the upsize is “water splash on the doors” - One might wonder how come the same problem doesn’t occur on Vx/Zx: Tyres on Vx/Zx are 185 (and not 195) and then the stock alloys on Vx/Zx seem to have a offset difference of 2mm. This makes Vx tyre “jut-out” by only 3mm when compared to V. In case of upsize, the jutting-out will be 10mm - this 7mm difference seems to be contributing to the splash.. Quote:
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So, “All is well” with 195, then what’s stopping you? Just one thing: Warranty. There are conflicting opinions on this thread, and it all comes down to your rapport with the service center. Your mileage may vary - from they not caring about the upsize to voiding warranty on anything connected to wheels - suspension, steering and what not. So, best is to talk to your specific dealer and then take a call if you want to walk down the lane with fatter tyres or not. Upsize: If one chooses to upsize, better to go for 195 (instead of 185). And, now that we are taking a risk with the warranty - might as well splurge and get something really nice to justify the risk ![]() Stay Stock: Vid6639 had mentioned that there is no point in changing the tyre if staying with the stock size. But, IMHO, if something is really bad, even small gains can help. Whether the incremental gain (because of the better tyre compound) is worth your money is your call. However, there aren't too many choices available in the stock size - I could only find XM2 and Alnac 4G. Please let me know if there are others. Looking forward to your comments! | ||||||||
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As for warranty, two dealers independently told me that suspension warranty might go for a toss, but all other warranties remain valid. Willing to take that small risk, because I have only had good experiences over the last 7 years using 195 section tires on my Swift- better handling, better braking, better steering feel. | |
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![]() Btw, how much did you get for GY assurance and how many kms did you run on them? | |
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| ![]() Upgraded My 2016 City's tyres from MRF ZVTV (175/65 R15) to Michelin Primacy 4ST (195/60 R15). The MRFs lasted for around 25k kms only even with careful driving and routine wheel balancing and alignment! Still have one regret though, should've gotten the upgrade immediately after buying. I bought the tyres at Madurai and paid Rs. 6200 per tyre. These are my observations after 2k kms of driving Pros: - High speed stability. I'm able to cruise easily at speeds of 120-140 kmph on the highways with confidence. The MRFs would shudder at such speeds - Tyre noise has gone down drastically! I can now enjoy the v-tec music in peace now! The MRFs were very noisy - Cornering capability has definitely improved. The car feels more planted while taking corners Cons - Fuel efficiency has gone down. There's a noticeable drop of about 1.5 kmpl. - The car gets dirty when travelling around in sludgy areas due to the tyres sticking out slightly Overall the pros do weigh out the cons. I'm happy with the results! |
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| ![]() Dear Enthusiasts, My 4th gen Honda City iVtec completed about 32k KMs on Goodyear Assurance Triplemax stock tyres. Time to change the tyres now and upgrading to 195/60 R15 as highly recommended here and I completely agree with. Now the question is - which one to buy? I have shortlisted below options in the same order as mentioned. Requirement is to have a compliant and confident ride at low and high speeds, effective breaking and possibly less road noise.
Preference is to Yoko Earth 1 as its most VFM option and suits the purpose. Would like to hear the opinions before I take a plunge. Thank you! Last edited by yogesh.8984 : 20th May 2019 at 00:22. |
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If you have already bought tires, please let us know which one you went for. | |
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