Thanks, Macfreak7 and karan561!
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Originally Posted by Macfreak7 To understand your question 1 more clearly, you basically want to know about the impact on tendency to understeer if you keep the front tires and wheels the same and only change the rear sizes to a wider set up? All else equal, on a RWD car you will understeer more with a staggered set up. Have you tried different air pressure levels in front / rear tires? to reduce understeer if that's what you're trying to do, go with slightly less air pressure in the front. |
That's exactly what I'm looking for! Just curious, any idea WHY a staggered setup will still understeer more than setup with all other factors being equal and same front tyres? Intriguing to me..
My car is a base 328i with the M Performance Suspension. Currently it has the stock wheels and tyres (17/7.5 wheels, 225/50/R17 runflats). Yes, I've tried playing around with air pressure already.
The runflats lose grip very easily with my style of driving - understeer sometimes, oversteer sometimes.
I'm looking to upsize a little bit, change to non-runflats, some max performance tyres since it rarely rains where I live. I'm thinking Michelin PSS, considering Bridgestone RE11As as well.
I'm torn between:
Option 1 - get 18" wheels (thinking factory style 397 wheels - 18/8"), go square with 245/40/R18 all around.
Option 2 - get 19" wheels - factory style 403 rims, but those are staggered rims. I'll have to go staggered if I get these, probably with 245/40 in front and 265/35 in rear.
I tend towards a square setup because the idea of eliminating understeer is attractive. My previous car, an E90 335i (forgot what wheels/tires it had except I know it had the sports package) had absolutely no understeer or oversteer to the extent that I pushed it. I would love to get that level of grip again. That car used to tramline a lot so I'm kinda used to tramlining and can deal with it.
So.. between Option 1 and Option 2 above, I posted Question 1 because I was wondering if I would get the same level of understeer with both. Sounds like no, I'd still be better off with a completely square setup. Except the fact that I'll be stuck with 245 as max width if I get those specific wheels.
Question 2 is (to rephrase it yet again
) - is there any difference between mounting square tires in square wheels vs non-square wheels ? I found the answer to this on another forum (m3 forum) last night, sounds like the answer is: There wont be any noticeable difference in handling but tire wear will be uneven since the tires will be stretched to a different extent, so rotation will no longer consist of just pulling out the wheel and mounting it. So if going square, square wheels are best.
... so, from all of the above, Option 1 (18" wheels square setup) sounds attractive to me. Only thing holding me back is the thought that I'll be spending all this money and not getting much bigger wheels (the bling factor of bigger wheels and "paisa vasool" factor)
. Having said that, I can't think of any performance/real reason (other than looks) to get 19"s.
Oh and I'm not looking at aftermarket alloys because I like the OEM look. I did look at a few Avant Garde, Linea Corsa and a few others that
almost match the look I want, but the OEM look is perfect for what I'm looking for.
By the way, @karan561 I think I saw your car on f30post or e90post.