Best set of tyres?

iraghava · 28th February 2008, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by harsha.cs1

how do i figure out that the tyres sold to me are original Michelins and no dupes? Also, do they come with guarantee cards? Where are they manufactured? Is 2900 a good price for Michelin Energy XM1?
Besides, is it a norm that the alignment and balancing come free with a new set of tyres?

a) They'll have a sticker on them stating "Imported by Michelin India".
b) Yes, the dealer will give you a warranty card stating all details like car, size, no. of tyres bought etc.
c) Thailand
d) Little high should be around 2750.
e) Yes, dealers usually offer this free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

You will get a set of warranty cards. Please ensure you get 1 card per tyre, not 1 card per set.

Akshay - Now you get one card stating number of tyres bought.

rex_varghese · 28th February 2008, 17:48

I'm planning to go for a new set of tires for my Accent 1.6L with ABS.

Current configuration is: (I know it's little crazy here)
Front - 175/70R13
Rear - 185/70R13
Spare- 175/70R13

I've the following options to upgrade:
(1) 175/70R13 (stock size)
(2) 185/65R13 (-1% speedo error)
(3) 195/65R13 (+1% speedo error)
(speed error from: Tire Calculator)

My driving is mostly in the city and couple of trips on the highway (at least 4/5 trips to Cochin in an year).

Max speed I touch on highways is 100-120 kmph.

I would like to get a set of tires which can give me safety and the best fuel efficiency.

What is my best option 1, 2, or 3?

Regards
Rex
Note: I almost finalized Michelin XM1 as the tire make

harsha.cs1 · 29th February 2008, 02:25

Hi friends,
Thanks for all your help. I settled for Michelin XM1+. The dealer said that 2 of the existing tyres were in a good condition and assured me that they could do at least 5K kms more. So he advised me to buy 2 new tyres for the front. I did that. I got them for 2825 each with free alignment and balancing and warranty.
I shall change the old back tyres after 5K kms and put 2 more new Michelins at the front. The ride has significantly improved just with 2 new front tyres. I guess good tyres in the front is what is most important, as the back tyres just work as a trolley, right? The problem of wobbling and vehicle pulling sideways has also gone! Now it's a pleasure driving my car! I am yet to take it on a highway run and will share my experiences with you. Though 30 psi is recommended for the Accent, the tyre dealer recommended 28 psi air pressure. It's been discussed here though.
Thanks again guys! Cheers!
PS: I am not sure if telling the name of the dealer would be against the spirit of the site. Hence it is undisclosed. Feel free to PM me if you want any further info about my deal!

rex_varghese · 29th February 2008, 10:37

Sharing the dealer details is fine here. Pleae share the information. I too am planning for a tire change.

Regards
Rex

Quote:

Originally Posted by harsha.cs1

PS: I am not sure if telling the name of the dealer would be against the spirit of the site. Hence it is undisclosed. Feel free to PM me if you want any further info about my deal!

iraghava · 29th February 2008, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by harsha.cs1

PS: I am not sure if telling the name of the dealer would be against the spirit of the site. Hence it is undisclosed. Feel free to PM me if you want any further info about my deal!

If you've had a good or even a bad experience for that matter it would be wise to name the dealer here so that fellow members get an idea of what that shop is like. Would be of benefit to everyone either ways.

harsha.cs1 · 1st March 2008, 00:00

Hey guys, i bought them from Sai Iyengar on CMH Road. so i guess Rex can start his negotiation from around 2700! Cheers!
BTW i was able to hear light squeaks from the back wheels at low speeds. These squeaks were similar to the loud ones i hear when i brake. but just lower in volume. Went back to the dealer who loosened n tightened the wheels and said he'll get them checked if the problem persisted! i hope its not a serious problem. Also the fact that i hear it only now can be because the earlier wobbling etc never let my mind observe this comparatively smaller problem! anyway, any one has a clue what it could be?

bmdesai1987 · 1st March 2008, 05:54

can i have GIII for estilo.. what size at what price?

kpzen · 1st March 2008, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmdesai1987

can i have GIII for estilo.. what size at what price?

Buying GIIIs now isn't a good idea.
Just get Michelin XM1 155/65-13.

breezydrive · 2nd March 2008, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpzen

Buying GIIIs now isn't a good idea.
Just get Michelin XM1 155/65-13.

Prajesh, i have completed about 6000 km on Michelin since Nov'07, out of which 60% involved highway driving.The overall performance is good, barring the steering shakes between 90-110 kmph range ( I am highly disappointed with this)
I've got alignment done thrice, balancing twice & rotation once, but of no use.

kpzen · 2nd March 2008, 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by breezydrive

Prajesh, i have completed about 6000 km on Michelin since Nov'07, out of which 60% involved highway driving.The overall performance is good, barring the steering shakes between 90-110 kmph range ( I am highly disappointed with this)
I've got alignment done thrice, balancing twice & rotation once, but of no use.

Neeraj
1. Are the rims in perfect shape?
2. Try to put the rear wheels in front and check.

mayurpalav · 13th March 2008, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayurpalav

About time to change the wheels on my Baleno, had the 17" rims,
previous owner had Yoko's ES100 205/40 R 17 on 3 wheels and
a 215/40 R 17 Falken on the left front wheel.
The tyres aren't bad, but I feel need to change them.
Which ones would be the best ?
Yoko's which I am getting for 7.8k per tyre
Or Falken for 5.5k per tyre.
Are there any other and cheaper options
Or is it that the lower the profile the higher the price ?
Suggestions awaited.

205/40R/17

Final List:

Yokohoma - es100 - 7.8k
Falken - 5.5k
Maxxis - 5.1k

Guys, help me choose.

spadival · 17th March 2008, 14:28

Got my front tyres changed from Yokohoma ES100 195/55/R15 to Goodyear Eagle Ventura 205/55/R15 today.

Test drive tells me they are a lot better on bad roads/over pot holes than the Yoko's I had earlier (left tyre wore out). The wider tyres obviously generate more noise over the Yokos. Tyre grip seems to be same overall, but I didnt try to push my luck testing the grip

.

And the tyres touch the mudflaps, But its more of a problem with the non-OE mudflaps that I have, rather than the tyres.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayurpalav

205/40R/17

Final List:

Yokohoma - es100 - 7.8k
Falken - 5.5k
Maxxis - 5.1k

Guys, help me choose.

Yoko's seem to be overpriced!! (Just guessing, I am not aware of the prices for R17 tyres).

vasudeva · 17th March 2008, 17:01

I got this image from Consumer Reports July 2007:

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Many may have a different opinion, but this graph may be useful.

rks · 17th March 2008, 19:03

@vasudeva, very informative graph. Should be an eye-opener for those considering upsizes.

Personally, I have gone for stock-size Turanza ER-60 tubeless tyres and 5J alloy wheels of stock dia (as compared to 4J stock wheels) for my Santro. I think I am enjoying the best of both worlds, as my Santro is really handling superbly. Overall my track has increased by about 65 mm because of lower-offset and wider alloys. That has greatly enhanced the stability of my ride, and the grippy Turanzas are really superb as compared to the stock tubed S322s. Plus the wider wheels increase the contact patch and at the same time significaintly improve the handling.

But because I am using stock-size tyres, I haven't lost out on top speed or FE and they seem to be pretty much the same. The pickup has improved noticeably with this setup complemented by Speed 97 and jacked-up tyre pressures (35 psi). Normally one would expect the higher tyre pressures to lead to lower grip, but I think the Turanzas already have more than enough grip for Santro, so no problems so far. Braking has improved enormously as compared to the stock set-up and I can confidently assert that this has helped me avert potential accidents on a few occasions.

Done about 10000 kms on the Turanzas and the tread seems to take the high-speed driving much better as compared to the tubeless S322's (which I had previously and which started squealing after about 10000 kms). I think I will stick to Turanzas, unless Michelin comes up with something better in the 13" category.

Akshay1234 · 17th March 2008, 19:20

vasudeva - take our indian cars for example. say a swift which comes with 165 section tyres. IMO theres no way those will be better than say 195 or a 205 section tyre.

View Poll Results: Best set of tyres? - In India.
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Pirelli	35	4.44%
Michelin	256	32.45%
Bridgestone	232	29.40%
Falkens	7	0.89%
BF Goodrich	12	1.52%
Mrf	35	4.44%
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28th February 2008, 17:48	#467
rex_varghese BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Marlborough, MA/Bangalore Posts: 348 Thanked: 61 Times View My Garage	Set of tires for my Accent 1.6L with ABS I'm planning to go for a new set of tires for my Accent 1.6L with ABS. Current configuration is: (I know it's little crazy here) Front - 175/70R13 Rear - 185/70R13 Spare- 175/70R13 I've the following options to upgrade: (1) 175/70R13 (stock size) (2) 185/65R13 (-1% speedo error) (3) 195/65R13 (+1% speedo error) (speed error from: Tire Calculator) My driving is mostly in the city and couple of trips on the highway (at least 4/5 trips to Cochin in an year). Max speed I touch on highways is 100-120 kmph. I would like to get a set of tires which can give me safety and the best fuel efficiency. What is my best option 1, 2, or 3? Regards Rex Note: I almost finalized Michelin XM1 as the tire make
	() Thanks

29th February 2008, 02:25	#468
harsha.cs1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 224 Thanked: 2 Times	Hi friends, Thanks for all your help. I settled for Michelin XM1+. The dealer said that 2 of the existing tyres were in a good condition and assured me that they could do at least 5K kms more. So he advised me to buy 2 new tyres for the front. I did that. I got them for 2825 each with free alignment and balancing and warranty. I shall change the old back tyres after 5K kms and put 2 more new Michelins at the front. The ride has significantly improved just with 2 new front tyres. I guess good tyres in the front is what is most important, as the back tyres just work as a trolley, right? The problem of wobbling and vehicle pulling sideways has also gone! Now it's a pleasure driving my car! I am yet to take it on a highway run and will share my experiences with you. Though 30 psi is recommended for the Accent, the tyre dealer recommended 28 psi air pressure. It's been discussed here though. Thanks again guys! Cheers! PS: I am not sure if telling the name of the dealer would be against the spirit of the site. Hence it is undisclosed. Feel free to PM me if you want any further info about my deal!
	() Thanks

1st March 2008, 00:00	#471
harsha.cs1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 224 Thanked: 2 Times	Hey guys, i bought them from Sai Iyengar on CMH Road. so i guess Rex can start his negotiation from around 2700! Cheers! BTW i was able to hear light squeaks from the back wheels at low speeds. These squeaks were similar to the loud ones i hear when i brake. but just lower in volume. Went back to the dealer who loosened n tightened the wheels and said he'll get them checked if the problem persisted! i hope its not a serious problem. Also the fact that i hear it only now can be because the earlier wobbling etc never let my mind observe this comparatively smaller problem! anyway, any one has a clue what it could be?
	() Thanks

1st March 2008, 05:54	#472
bmdesai1987 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bharuch, Gujarat, India Posts: 131 Thanked: 2 Times	can i have GIII for estilo.. what size at what price?
	() Thanks

17th March 2008, 17:01	#478
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,223 Thanked: 212 Times	I got this image from Consumer Reports July 2007: Many may have a different opinion, but this graph may be useful.
	() Thanks

17th March 2008, 19:03	#479
rks BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ?? Posts: 1,238 Thanked: 18 Times	@vasudeva, very informative graph. Should be an eye-opener for those considering upsizes. Personally, I have gone for stock-size Turanza ER-60 tubeless tyres and 5J alloy wheels of stock dia (as compared to 4J stock wheels) for my Santro. I think I am enjoying the best of both worlds, as my Santro is really handling superbly. Overall my track has increased by about 65 mm because of lower-offset and wider alloys. That has greatly enhanced the stability of my ride, and the grippy Turanzas are really superb as compared to the stock tubed S322s. Plus the wider wheels increase the contact patch and at the same time significaintly improve the handling. But because I am using stock-size tyres, I haven't lost out on top speed or FE and they seem to be pretty much the same. The pickup has improved noticeably with this setup complemented by Speed 97 and jacked-up tyre pressures (35 psi). Normally one would expect the higher tyre pressures to lead to lower grip, but I think the Turanzas already have more than enough grip for Santro, so no problems so far. Braking has improved enormously as compared to the stock set-up and I can confidently assert that this has helped me avert potential accidents on a few occasions. Done about 10000 kms on the Turanzas and the tread seems to take the high-speed driving much better as compared to the tubeless S322's (which I had previously and which started squealing after about 10000 kms). I think I will stick to Turanzas, unless Michelin comes up with something better in the 13" category.
	() Thanks

17th March 2008, 19:20	#480
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,310 Thanked: 12,706 Times	vasudeva - take our indian cars for example. say a swift which comes with 165 section tyres. IMO theres no way those will be better than say 195 or a 205 section tyre.
	() Thanks

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