Sidewall puncture in tubeless tyre

kpzen · 9th January 2007, 15:13

Just confirmed the GIIIs 195/60-14 is Rs.3250 per tyre...

madhukar_n · 27th February 2009, 17:00

Today i observed that one of the tyres(185/70R13) got damaged on the side and it was punctured. so cannot do anything with the puncture kit, they told it has to be replaced. So right now it is running on the spare(tube 165/80R13). The tubeless have run about 25K. so the quesiton is
1) Should i buy a single 185/70R13 ?
2) make the tubeless a tubed tyre and run it till i change them next ? is it a good thing to do ???

Please let me know.

P.S: all(except the spare) are potenza gIII

Nikhilb2008 · 27th February 2009, 17:05

Change that one tyre and put it at the back. NOT at the front. Continue to keep the 165/80-13 as a spare.

honda_dude · 27th February 2009, 17:16

dunno about bangalore but there is only one place in mumbai where one can repiar the side puncture of a tubeless tyrethe charges are also quite reasonable.its in opera house.

aka_iitd · 27th February 2009, 17:21

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Originally Posted by honda_dude

dunno about bangalore but there is only one place in mumbai where one can repiar the side puncture of a tubeless tyrethe charges are also quite reasonable.its in opera house.

I am also looking for such place in Bangalore. I checked couple of places but they said not possible. One person said check Lalbagh but till now I never went to check there.

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Change that one tyre and put it at the back. NOT at the front. Continue to keep the 165/80-13 as a spare.

Nikhil any reason of putting at back but not in front ?

Nikhilb2008 · 27th February 2009, 17:40

1). you do have places on JC road to do it, but I would advise against it. It is not reliable and is sort of ok only if you use the repaired tyre as a spare. Meaning, you use it only for 50 kms or so in case of a flat. Not more than that and not at a high speed. Since you have only 4 of 185/60-13, wha you can do is to buy one more, use it on your car, then get this one repaired and use it as a spare ONLY. You are basically risking you life with these sort of repairs. In my line of work, I've seen quite a few tyre bursts because of this kind of repair job. They basically apply a heat patch on the inside of the tyre.

2). The brand new tyre will have ZERO wear. The other three tyres will have only abt 50% of the tread left. If you combine one brand new tyre and one worn out tyre at the front, you will have major pulling problems. Your car will not go dead straight. If you use it atr the back, it wont cause major problems. I dont think it will cause ANY problems actually.

madhukar_n · 27th February 2009, 18:21

in that case then, i can use the old spare only 165/80-13 bcos it has not run for more than 5k or 10K max. if there is puncture then i can use this for at least sometime. whereas if i repair the old one and keep it as a spare then i will have to keep worrying if i use it.
so i guess a strict no to make the tubeless a tubed one. ;-)

goel.honey · 28th February 2009, 18:53

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Originally Posted by honda_dude

dunno about bangalore but there is only one place in mumbai where one can repiar the side puncture of a tubeless tyrethe charges are also quite reasonable.its in opera house.

Is it really possible to repair a side puncture on a tubeless tyre. If yes, is it reliable? I really need to know as I have 2 almost new A-drives lying idle in my garage.

lancer123 · 28th February 2009, 20:03

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so i guess a strict no to make the tubeless a tubed one. ;-)

As the sidewall is damaged, its not advisable to use that tyre as the damage will increase with the flexing of sidewall. also i dont think any company make 185/70R13 tube.

ramkris · 2nd March 2009, 18:42

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Originally Posted by madhukar_n

Today i observed that one of the tyres(185/70R13) got damaged on the side and it was punctured. so cannot do anything with the puncture kit, they told it has to be replaced. So right now it is running on the spare(tube 165/80R13). The tubeless have run about 25K. so the quesiton is
1) Should i buy a single 185/70R13 ?
2) make the tubeless a tubed tyre and run it till i change them next ? is it a good thing to do ???

Please let me know.

P.S: all(except the spare) are potenza gIII

You could also add a tube to the tyre and use it as a spare.

madhukar_n · 3rd March 2009, 13:00

So finally decided to make the change. bought 2 new potenza gIII and put them on the front.(replace the spare also this time- got a good price for it.)

e1t1bet · 5th March 2009, 09:49

My front-right tyre has a small (but big enough to leak all the air out in munutes) sidewall cut. I am pretty certain, given Michelin's reputation, that I am not getting a free replacement. I would need to buy new tyres.
However, my tyres are ~3000Kms old. Can I get away with replacing just one tyre? Also, where should I put thee new tyre(front or back?)
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madhukar_n · 5th March 2009, 11:04

i dont think you will get a replacement, not only michellin, any company make.

well if u follow this thread, buy one tyre then you put it at the back. at least i had the advantage of having a lesser profile spare and i could buy a pair. normally changing tyres is recommended as a pair.

e1t1bet · 5th March 2009, 11:37

I know that I wouldn't get a replacement. However, I also know that had I bought Turanzas or something, I probably wouldn't have needed a replacement this early.
Michelin sidewall damage stories have become a joke in the "local, small tyre repair shop" circles.
Anyhow, I am not complaining. I knew it was a risk when I was getting them

Coming back to the topic,so according to you, 3k odd km old tyres needn't be replaced in pairs if I am putting the new one at the back?

madhukar_n · 5th March 2009, 11:58

Yes you dont need to buy in pairs.
Well i had the bridgestone too(potenza is the one before turanza), still there was a sidewall damage. i dont how it happened too. it was a cut in the middle of the sidewall. if i had hit a stone, my alloys also should have been damaged, but it is not !

9th January 2007, 15:13	#16
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Just confirmed the GIIIs 195/60-14 is Rs.3250 per tyre...
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27th February 2009, 17:00	#17
madhukar_n BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 395 Thanked: 179 Times	Tubeless Side Damage. (Sidewall cut) Today i observed that one of the tyres(185/70R13) got damaged on the side and it was punctured. so cannot do anything with the puncture kit, they told it has to be replaced. So right now it is running on the spare(tube 165/80R13). The tubeless have run about 25K. so the quesiton is 1) Should i buy a single 185/70R13 ? 2) make the tubeless a tubed tyre and run it till i change them next ? is it a good thing to do ??? Please let me know. P.S: all(except the spare) are potenza gIII
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27th February 2009, 17:05	#18
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,136 Times	Change that one tyre and put it at the back. NOT at the front. Continue to keep the 165/80-13 as a spare.
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27th February 2009, 17:16	#19
honda_dude BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Christchurch Posts: 253 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage	dunno about bangalore but there is only one place in mumbai where one can repiar the side puncture of a tubeless tyrethe charges are also quite reasonable.its in opera house.
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27th February 2009, 17:40	#21
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,136 Times	1). you do have places on JC road to do it, but I would advise against it. It is not reliable and is sort of ok only if you use the repaired tyre as a spare. Meaning, you use it only for 50 kms or so in case of a flat. Not more than that and not at a high speed. Since you have only 4 of 185/60-13, wha you can do is to buy one more, use it on your car, then get this one repaired and use it as a spare ONLY. You are basically risking you life with these sort of repairs. In my line of work, I've seen quite a few tyre bursts because of this kind of repair job. They basically apply a heat patch on the inside of the tyre. 2). The brand new tyre will have ZERO wear. The other three tyres will have only abt 50% of the tread left. If you combine one brand new tyre and one worn out tyre at the front, you will have major pulling problems. Your car will not go dead straight. If you use it atr the back, it wont cause major problems. I dont think it will cause ANY problems actually.
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27th February 2009, 18:21	#22
madhukar_n BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 395 Thanked: 179 Times	in that case then, i can use the old spare only 165/80-13 bcos it has not run for more than 5k or 10K max. if there is puncture then i can use this for at least sometime. whereas if i repair the old one and keep it as a spare then i will have to keep worrying if i use it. so i guess a strict no to make the tubeless a tubed one. ;-)
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3rd March 2009, 13:00	#26
madhukar_n BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 395 Thanked: 179 Times	So finally decided to make the change. bought 2 new potenza gIII and put them on the front.(replace the spare also this time- got a good price for it.)
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5th March 2009, 09:49	#27
e1t1bet BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 106 Thanked: 27 Times	Sidewall cut on new michelins My front-right tyre has a small (but big enough to leak all the air out in munutes) sidewall cut. I am pretty certain, given Michelin's reputation, that I am not getting a free replacement. I would need to buy new tyres. However, my tyres are ~3000Kms old. Can I get away with replacing just one tyre? Also, where should I put thee new tyre(front or back?) Thanks Note from Team-BHP Support : Thread MERGED. Please use the search feature before creating a new thread on a topic that might already exist. Please continue your discussion in an existing thread. This will keep all the relevant information in one place and make it easier for readers in the future. Last edited by Jaggu : 5th March 2009 at 10:29. Reason: Search please
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5th March 2009, 11:04	#28
madhukar_n BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 395 Thanked: 179 Times	i dont think you will get a replacement, not only michellin, any company make. well if u follow this thread, buy one tyre then you put it at the back. at least i had the advantage of having a lesser profile spare and i could buy a pair. normally changing tyres is recommended as a pair.
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5th March 2009, 11:37	#29
e1t1bet BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 106 Thanked: 27 Times	I know that I wouldn't get a replacement. However, I also know that had I bought Turanzas or something, I probably wouldn't have needed a replacement this early. Michelin sidewall damage stories have become a joke in the "local, small tyre repair shop" circles. Anyhow, I am not complaining. I knew it was a risk when I was getting them Coming back to the topic,so according to you, 3k odd km old tyres needn't be replaced in pairs if I am putting the new one at the back?
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5th March 2009, 11:58	#30
madhukar_n BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 395 Thanked: 179 Times	Yes you dont need to buy in pairs. Well i had the bridgestone too(potenza is the one before turanza), still there was a sidewall damage. i dont how it happened too. it was a cut in the middle of the sidewall. if i had hit a stone, my alloys also should have been damaged, but it is not !
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