Footwear for the Swift?

hyper-VTEC · 3rd May 2007, 14:52

I have a Swift VXi. The manual says its offset is 42mm. I checked the Neo Wheels website, but none of the 15 inch models have offset 42mm or greater. Does that mean its not safe to put these in Swift as upsize? Car and Tyre Bible says offset should be >= than whats recommended. Confused!

Vid6639 · 3rd May 2007, 14:56

look around for other brands other than neo. theres aura, hijoin, league, plati for example.

also whats the tyre size your looking for? it should be 195/60-15.

hyper-VTEC · 3rd May 2007, 15:09

vidyut, i made my mind for 195/60R15. But during our last Bangalore TBHP meet (22-May), you remember the black Swift "theMAG" was driving. It had 205/55R15 Ventus tyres. I was drooling over them.

I know upsizing to 15 would add harshness to the ride, but what would be the level of difference in harshness between 195/60 and 205/55?

Vid6639 · 3rd May 2007, 15:16

maggie has 195/55-15 which is the wrong size. Instead of those I would suggest go for the tyres which mayank has put on his car. Michelin pilot primacy 195/60-15.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...tml#post404142

205's are overkill since your running stock it will reduce your mileage and performance.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...er-upsize.html

akroy · 3rd May 2007, 15:20

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Originally Posted by hyper-VTEC

vidyut, i made my mind for 195/60R15. But during our last Bangalore TBHP meet (22-May),

Dada, 22 May, of which year? Today is 3rd May of 2007...

kpzen · 3rd May 2007, 15:22

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Originally Posted by hyper-VTEC

I know upsizing to 15 would add harshness to the ride, but what would be the level of difference in harshness between 195/60 and 205/55?

Sidewall difference
205/55 - 112.75 mm
195/60 - 117 mm

Sidewall hieght will increase by 4mm...So u can expect 195/60 to give u better ride but cant comment on how much.....I've driven swift with 195/60 which is an ideal upsize considering grip levels n looks both...I dont think 205 with extra 10mm of rubber is gonna look so different unless u are planning for even lower profile tyres

hyper-VTEC · 3rd May 2007, 15:31

@akroy Sorry i meant 22-Apr-07.

@vid/kpzen I think i would stick to 195/60R15. I am in the lookout for alloys with offset of 42mm +. Would come back later with more rubber queries.

revhappy · 3rd May 2007, 18:17

Hi Mayank,
I will give u my opinion, for the question
1. Fat/bold spokes or thin multi spokes?

I always like alloys that let you see maximum of inside of the wheel and has miimum of spoke outer surface area.so it would be thin yet few spokes.
All the best for your search !!!
Cheers,
Revhappy

vikram_d · 3rd May 2007, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyper-VTEC

vidyut, i made my mind for 195/60R15. But during our last Bangalore TBHP meet (22-May), you remember the black Swift "theMAG" was driving. It had 205/55R15 Ventus tyres. I was drooling over them.

I know upsizing to 15 would add harshness to the ride, but what would be the level of difference in harshness between 195/60 and 205/55?

The car that Mag was driving was mine and it indeed has 205/55-R15 Ventus rubber. There is not much difference between the ride quality of 195/60 & 205/55 in my opinion.

Vid6639 · 3rd May 2007, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikram_d

The car that Mag was driving was mine and it indeed has 205/55-R15 Ventus rubber. There is not much difference between the ride quality of 195/60 & 205/55 in my opinion.

205/55-15 is the correct size. I was talking about themag's car and his 195/55-15 ventus.

the difference in sidewall height between 195/60 and 205/55 isnt much as kpzen pointed out but it's the tyre width which if you compare with stock is a big jump and will surely affect pickup mileage especially if you dont have any mods under the hood.

Vikram, for you not such a problem since you have the whole shebang under that hood.

Jaggu · 3rd May 2007, 19:53

i guess the 14 inchers are doomed as ever, aditya just called up and said he also cant find the 195 in 14 inch and will have to go 15 inch way, have recommended him Yoko's

Vid6639 · 3rd May 2007, 21:13

yeah yokos are a good bet. hope they will be easier to find.

I'll try asking the bridgestone chaps tomorrow for the G-III in 195/65-14.

vikram_d · 4th May 2007, 06:39

All the best looking for GIII's. Those tyres are damn difficult to get.

And as far the shebang under my cars hood is concerned I just have a K&N and a FFE. Even in stock there was no drop in mileage in my car.

revhappy · 4th May 2007, 10:17

Hi Vikram,
Where did u get the K&N and FFE done in bangalore? what the difference in Pickup/mileage like and what were the damages

vikram_d · 4th May 2007, 10:58

@Revhappy - Have sent you the details by PM. This is not the appropriate thing to be discussing on this thread.

3rd May 2007, 14:52	#31
hyper-VTEC BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bengal...ooroo Posts: 648 Thanked: 243 Times View My Garage	I have a Swift VXi. The manual says its offset is 42mm. I checked the Neo Wheels website, but none of the 15 inch models have offset 42mm or greater. Does that mean its not safe to put these in Swift as upsize? Car and Tyre Bible says offset should be >= than whats recommended. Confused!
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3rd May 2007, 14:56	#32
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,727 Thanked: 43,457 Times View My Garage	look around for other brands other than neo. theres aura, hijoin, league, plati for example. also whats the tyre size your looking for? it should be 195/60-15.
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3rd May 2007, 15:09	#33
hyper-VTEC BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bengal...ooroo Posts: 648 Thanked: 243 Times View My Garage	vidyut, i made my mind for 195/60R15. But during our last Bangalore TBHP meet (22-May), you remember the black Swift "theMAG" was driving. It had 205/55R15 Ventus tyres. I was drooling over them. I know upsizing to 15 would add harshness to the ride, but what would be the level of difference in harshness between 195/60 and 205/55?
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3rd May 2007, 15:16	#34
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,727 Thanked: 43,457 Times View My Garage	maggie has 195/55-15 which is the wrong size. Instead of those I would suggest go for the tyres which mayank has put on his car. Michelin pilot primacy 195/60-15. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...tml#post404142 205's are overkill since your running stock it will reduce your mileage and performance. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...er-upsize.html
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3rd May 2007, 15:31	#37
hyper-VTEC BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bengal...ooroo Posts: 648 Thanked: 243 Times View My Garage	@akroy Sorry i meant 22-Apr-07. @vid/kpzen I think i would stick to 195/60R15. I am in the lookout for alloys with offset of 42mm +. Would come back later with more rubber queries.
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3rd May 2007, 18:17	#38
revhappy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 330 Thanked: 15 Times	Hi Mayank, I will give u my opinion, for the question 1. Fat/bold spokes or thin multi spokes? I always like alloys that let you see maximum of inside of the wheel and has miimum of spoke outer surface area.so it would be thin yet few spokes. All the best for your search !!! Cheers, Revhappy
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3rd May 2007, 19:53	#41
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,212 Thanked: 15,892 Times	i guess the 14 inchers are doomed as ever, aditya just called up and said he also cant find the 195 in 14 inch and will have to go 15 inch way, have recommended him Yoko's
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3rd May 2007, 21:13	#42
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,727 Thanked: 43,457 Times View My Garage	yeah yokos are a good bet. hope they will be easier to find. I'll try asking the bridgestone chaps tomorrow for the G-III in 195/65-14.
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4th May 2007, 06:39	#43
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	All the best looking for GIII's. Those tyres are damn difficult to get. And as far the shebang under my cars hood is concerned I just have a K&N and a FFE. Even in stock there was no drop in mileage in my car.
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4th May 2007, 10:17	#44
revhappy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 330 Thanked: 15 Times	Hi Vikram, Where did u get the K&N and FFE done in bangalore? what the difference in Pickup/mileage like and what were the damages
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4th May 2007, 10:58	#45
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	@Revhappy - Have sent you the details by PM. This is not the appropriate thing to be discussing on this thread.
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