15X6.5 and 15X7.0 On a Baleno

mega5918 · 10th December 2006, 13:00

Hi BHPNs',
Can I put 15X6.5 or 15X7.0 Alloys on to my Baleno with out modifying my suspensions?
Thanks,
Megs
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Baleno LXi 2006

kpzen · 10th December 2006, 22:35

Pls mention the tyre size u are going for....

Samurai · 10th December 2006, 22:58

No, 15 inchers on Baleno without suspension modification is not recommended.

BTW, why 6.5 or 7J, what tyre width are your thinking?

v1p3r · 11th December 2006, 03:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai

No, 15 inchers on Baleno without suspension modification is not recommended.

Why would you say that? I don't see a problem with it.

Samurai · 11th December 2006, 07:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

Why would you say that? I don't see a problem with it.

If Bangalore roads were great, then it wouldn't be a problem. But this car is going to be on Bangalore roads. Right now I live in a place where roads in monsoon are worse than Bangalore roads. Driving the Baleno with 195/60R14 on these roads was a torture, my suspension was taking a beating.

As you switch to a bigger wheel while maintaining same OD, it takes a bigger bite out of your sidewall. For example, change from 165/80R13 to 205/50R15 results in 23% reduction in sidewall width. In other words, more shock is sent towards the suspension. The stock suspension is not designed to handle that much increase in work load.

Subbu · 11th December 2006, 09:16

Not to mention, passengers are going to experience the pot holes much better.

mega5918 · 11th December 2006, 11:14

Dear kpzen,
I'm thinking of going in for Good Year 195/55 R15's F1 GSD3's, Just wanted to know If I can put a 15X6.5J or 15X7J the LUFF Alloys I've seen looks fantastic but comes only in 15X7J.

Dear Samuari,
I drive on good roads Just a few humps n thatz all no Pot Holes cause I drive mostly from Home 2 Office, Indiranagar-AirportRoad, Roads in My area are pretty good I hardly drive my car on bad roads for that I've an Omni. N Heartful thanks for moving dis thread to where ever It's supposed to be Samurai.

Guys please help me out wid dis, It's been 2 Wks I'm still not able to finalize on my alloys but Tyres for sure are GoodYear F1 GSD3's.

The Sales Guys talk if as if they know every thing but know a lil abt the alloy and tyre specs.

195/55 R15 and 185/65 R14 has almost the same total diameter, No of Revs Per Kms remains the same.
I saw the same combination (15X7J Luff Alloys and GoodYear 195/55 R15 NCT3's) fitted on to a Honda City VTECH the earlier model. Looks awesome.

Thanks,
Mega

Samurai · 11th December 2006, 12:08

195/55R15 is fine for the Baleno, it was one of my choices last year. I backed off since I didn't want to redo the suspension. I know people who did put 15 inch on 6J alloys on Baleno, but they all got their suspension redone.

However, 7J could be a new territory for Baleno. Will it fit? one has to try and see.

Godfather · 11th December 2006, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai

195/55R15 is fine for the Baleno, it was one of my choices last year. I backed off since I didn't want to redo the suspension. I know people who did put 15 inch on 6J alloys on Baleno, but they all got their suspension redone.

However, 7J could be a new territory for Baleno. Will it fit? one has to try and see.

I have driven a Baleno fitted with a 205/40 16" 6J rims and the ride was pretty smooth (except for the occassional ant we ran over)"kidding"

The pick up was very noticably down but over all i liked the feel of it..
And the car was on stock suspensions... No changes what so ever...

Godfather

kpzen · 11th December 2006, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by mega5918

Dear kpzen,
I'm thinking of going in for Good Year 195/55 R15's F1 GSD3's, Just wanted to know If I can put a 15X6.5J or 15X7J the LUFF Alloys I've seen looks fantastic but comes only in 15X7J.

Rim width range for 195 is 5.5j - 7j
For 195 tyres 6j alloys is the perfect match

7j is just too wide for 195 width tyres

Quote:

unduly wide rims on an ordinary car tend to give rather a harsh ride because the sidewalls have not got enough curvature to make them flex over bumps and potholes

KP

mega5918 · 11th December 2006, 17:47

I met a technically sound guy in the auto store where I’m supposed to buy my Alloys, he just explained me a simple way to calculate the rim width that fits your car. He asked me few questions like what’s the max size that you have heard that have been installed on a Baleno? Simple question isn’t it??

I told him most of the people prefer to go for 195/65 R14, He asked me to convert the width 195mm into inches simple divide it by 25.4, 195/25.4 = 7.68In simple you can install a J7X15 without any modifications to the suspension.
@kpzen
Coming to the width 7J, yep comfort ness will be lost with low profile tyres, but as the width of the tyre increases the profile decreases for cars (not talking abt SUV’s). Let me do this experiment if I’m satisfied I’ll surely inform you guys abt the same.
But lower the profile wider the rim.
Guys correct me if I’m wrong.
Thanks
Megs

kpzen · 12th December 2006, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by mega5918

I met a technically sound guy in the auto store where I’m supposed to buy my Alloys, he just explained me a simple way to calculate the rim width that fits your car. He asked me few questions like what’s the max size that you have heard that have been installed on a Baleno? Simple question isn’t it??

I told him most of the people prefer to go for 195/65 R14, He asked me to convert the width 195mm into inches simple divide it by 25.4, 195/25.4 = 7.68In simple you can install a J7X15 without any modifications to the suspension.

Dont think thats the exact method of calculating the idea rim width...logic sounds good but there is some percentage of the width in inches that gives u the ideal rim width size...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mega5918

@kpzen
Coming to the width 7J, yep comfort ness will be lost with low profile tyres, but as the width of the tyre increases the profile decreases for cars (not talking abt SUV’s). Let me do this experiment if I’m satisfied I’ll surely inform you guys abt the same.
But lower the profile wider the rim.
Guys correct me if I’m wrong.
Thanks
Megs

a wider rim basically stretches the tyre a bit more than a narrower rim thereby increasing the footprint but lowering the height of they tyre so depending on the pwer your car throws out...like aa powerful car can go wider on the tyre and lower on the profile..

Note: I would still suggest u to go for 6j alloys with 195mm tyres....

Buffetfan · 12th December 2006, 21:37

as usual.. try The Car Maintenance Bibles and get your questions reg rim width range / tyre width ranges / synchronisation between the two answered

s.prashanth · 13th December 2006, 11:28

i run my baleno on 195/55/15 ADVAN NEOVA YOKOS , on a 6.5j rim, no suspension job required, but the insides of the rear fender need to be folded to avoid bottoming on afull load of passengers

mega5918 · 13th December 2006, 12:57

@Buffetfan,
Thanks

, I refer to this site very often; check out auto.howstuffworks.com also for more car/auto gyan. One of my pals is an Auto Engineer he works for one of the top companies, he knows every thing except the tyres and the rim part

.
@Prashanth,
Thanks for the valuable information about the fenders, I never load my car, max 2PPL

, I'll change my wheels n If I C ny problem I'll get the fender work done If It touches, any other suggestions.
Heartful thanks to fellow BHPn's for sharing the thoughts, will get My Car done next weekend n post the pics.
Thanks,
Naveen

10th December 2006, 13:00	#1
mega5918 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95 Thanked: 5 Times	15X6.5 and 15X7.0 On a Baleno Hi BHPNs', Can I put 15X6.5 or 15X7.0 Alloys on to my Baleno with out modifying my suspensions? Thanks, Megs --------- Baleno LXi 2006
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10th December 2006, 22:35	#2
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Pls mention the tyre size u are going for....
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10th December 2006, 22:58	#3
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,535 Times View My Garage	No, 15 inchers on Baleno without suspension modification is not recommended. BTW, why 6.5 or 7J, what tyre width are your thinking? Last edited by Samurai : 10th December 2006 at 22:59.
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11th December 2006, 09:16	#6
Subbu BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 84 Thanked: 3 Times	Not to mention, passengers are going to experience the pot holes much better.
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11th December 2006, 11:14	#7
mega5918 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95 Thanked: 5 Times	Dear kpzen, I'm thinking of going in for Good Year 195/55 R15's F1 GSD3's, Just wanted to know If I can put a 15X6.5J or 15X7J the LUFF Alloys I've seen looks fantastic but comes only in 15X7J. Dear Samuari, I drive on good roads Just a few humps n thatz all no Pot Holes cause I drive mostly from Home 2 Office, Indiranagar-AirportRoad, Roads in My area are pretty good I hardly drive my car on bad roads for that I've an Omni. N Heartful thanks for moving dis thread to where ever It's supposed to be Samurai. Guys please help me out wid dis, It's been 2 Wks I'm still not able to finalize on my alloys but Tyres for sure are GoodYear F1 GSD3's. The Sales Guys talk if as if they know every thing but know a lil abt the alloy and tyre specs. 195/55 R15 and 185/65 R14 has almost the same total diameter, No of Revs Per Kms remains the same. I saw the same combination (15X7J Luff Alloys and GoodYear 195/55 R15 NCT3's) fitted on to a Honda City VTECH the earlier model. Looks awesome. Thanks, Mega
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11th December 2006, 12:08	#8
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,535 Times View My Garage	195/55R15 is fine for the Baleno, it was one of my choices last year. I backed off since I didn't want to redo the suspension. I know people who did put 15 inch on 6J alloys on Baleno, but they all got their suspension redone. However, 7J could be a new territory for Baleno. Will it fit? one has to try and see.
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11th December 2006, 17:47	#11
mega5918 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95 Thanked: 5 Times	Finally I met a technically sound guy in the auto store where I’m supposed to buy my Alloys, he just explained me a simple way to calculate the rim width that fits your car. He asked me few questions like what’s the max size that you have heard that have been installed on a Baleno? Simple question isn’t it?? I told him most of the people prefer to go for 195/65 R14, He asked me to convert the width 195mm into inches simple divide it by 25.4, 195/25.4 = 7.68In simple you can install a J7X15 without any modifications to the suspension. @kpzen Coming to the width 7J, yep comfort ness will be lost with low profile tyres, but as the width of the tyre increases the profile decreases for cars (not talking abt SUV’s). Let me do this experiment if I’m satisfied I’ll surely inform you guys abt the same. But lower the profile wider the rim. Guys correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks Megs
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12th December 2006, 21:37	#13
Buffetfan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 195 Times	as usual.. try The Car Maintenance Bibles and get your questions reg rim width range / tyre width ranges / synchronisation between the two answered
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13th December 2006, 11:28	#14
s.prashanth BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 365 Thanked: 85 Times	i run my baleno on 195/55/15 ADVAN NEOVA YOKOS , on a 6.5j rim, no suspension job required, but the insides of the rear fender need to be folded to avoid bottoming on afull load of passengers
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13th December 2006, 12:57	#15
mega5918 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95 Thanked: 5 Times	@Buffetfan, Thanks , I refer to this site very often; check out auto.howstuffworks.com also for more car/auto gyan. One of my pals is an Auto Engineer he works for one of the top companies, he knows every thing except the tyres and the rim part . @Prashanth, Thanks for the valuable information about the fenders, I never load my car, max 2PPL , I'll change my wheels n If I C ny problem I'll get the fender work done If It touches, any other suggestions. Heartful thanks to fellow BHPn's for sharing the thoughts, will get My Car done next weekend n post the pics. Thanks, Naveen
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