Can i use the same wheels for my OHC and new swift ?

higautham · 20th February 2007, 08:23

hi bhpians ... need ur help.
i'm having a 2001 OHC 1.3 and a 98zen. now i'm planning to change my zen to have a swift vdi.i love to have alloys for my swift and a trye upsize. heard that both cars having same PCD. here comes my doubt.
my OHC's tyre size is 170/70/13. swift is having stock 165/80/14. can i have an alloy/tyre set which can be used in both cars. please excuce me if its a blunder. i my mind its 185/60/14 or 195/60/14.
please give some advise.
thanks in advance.

ajmat · 20th February 2007, 10:07

You can, I run my vtec on stock swift steel rims wearing 195 tyres on track

theMAG · 20th February 2007, 10:43

You can. The City's ride will stiffen up more than on the Swift

higautham · 20th February 2007, 10:55

thanks friends.. please suggest me to buy the correct tyres and an alloy, which i can use it on both of my cars. i'm not having a huge budget for this upgrade. which size should i go for, for the wheel and the tyres. how much it cost around.

theMAG · 20th February 2007, 12:02

Discussed quintinial times, but for your comfort here goes:

1. Yokohamas lead the pack. ES100, AVS Sport
2. Michelins equally competent. Pilot Sport, Pilot Preceda, Pilot Primacy (asymmetrical).

All these are unidirectional tyres with a single-side stepney. Ensure that the tyres are swapped between cars in the same positions.

higautham · 5th March 2007, 14:31

oh. man... sad news for me.. yokos not available at trivandrum. where shall i get it. anywhere in kerala.

karthik247 · 5th March 2007, 14:40

I got the Yokohama's from Bangalore. PM me if u need more info. They are awesome tyres. And stay away from New Bharat Tyres if u don't wanna get ripped off...seriously

And first decide on ur tyre size...then search for the tyres. Not all sizes are available in all brands so..

Hope that'll help

higautham · 5th March 2007, 14:45

thanks.. karthik.. i'll surely contact u for details before buying.
i'm looking for 195/65-15. or 195/60-15
http://www.lovepostcards.net/288100

)))))))))))))))

kpzen · 5th March 2007, 16:01

Guys...!!!!

I'm not getting this or what...!!! How is this possible??

OHC 175/70-13 circumference 1807.04mm
Swift 165/80-14 circumference 1946.53mm

The difference in circumference of both tyres is more than 7%.....the advisable limit is 2-3% max
The PCD is same so u can interchange rims ....
But tyres i highly doubt u can get an upsize which may suit both the cars...Either it will make OHC taller or Swift lower nigga style.....

KP

iraghava · 5th March 2007, 16:09

Gautham - There is no perfect upsize which can be fitted on both the cars as KP has already pointed out above. If you choose to buy only when set to use on both cars (considering they'll be swapped among the cars at some point of time) then both the cars will have to have tyres which are not ideal upgrades for them. The difference in stock OD is simply too much to be compensated for by upsizing the tyres.

Are you sure you're okay with that?

higautham · 5th March 2007, 17:04

ya.. i understand. now i have made a slight change in my plan. to have a 14" alloys and 195/70-14 for my upcoming swift.. and to use those new steel rims of swift for my OHC with a suitable tubeless tyres--may be 195/60-14.***if my budget allows*** (OHC now running on 13" mrf zvts with tube....... its terrible.)

i welcome suggetions
http://www.lovepostcards.net/288100

)))))))))))))))

rks · 5th March 2007, 17:11

Apart from what kpzen and iraghava have pointed out, I would like to add some concerns.

It does not seem to be a good idea to use one set of tyres for two cars because very often monitoring the tread wear pattern is the only reliable indication of misalignment and/or low/high tyre pressures. Here you will not have have a clue as to which car is having the problem(s), if any.

The other doubt in my mind is regarding offset. Even if the two cars have the same PCD, the offset need not be the same. If there is a big discrepancy, better to use two separate sets of wheels.

Anyway, if you insist on using one set, at least make sure that the speed and load ratings of the tyres are sufficient for both cars.

karthik247 · 5th March 2007, 18:45

Does interchanging the tyres all the time mean u have to get the alignment done each time as well??

rks · 5th March 2007, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by karthik247

Does interchanging the tyres all the time mean u have to get the alignment done each time as well??

I am not 100% sure of this. As per what I have read, you need to balance a wheel each time it is removed and fitted back. But if you are going to frequently change the wheels, it may not be practical to do that. So I would say at least balance the wheels after they have done a total of 5000 kms (i.e., on the Swift+OHC in this case).

E.g. the wheels have done 5000 kms, the Swift and OHC have each done 2500 kms, then you presumably need to balance the wheels. Whenever a *car* does a certain distance, say, 5000 kms, one may need to do an alignment check on that car. But in this case, I would say that you do alignment checks on both cars whenever the wheels are balanced. More frequent alignment checks may be good idea in this case.

karthik247 · 5th March 2007, 19:29

And it's gonna be difficult for u to enjoy the tyres cuz when u drive the OHC, u'll have to put the tyres from the Swift and when u drive the Swift, u'll have to put the wheels from the OHC...whew!!

Also alignment+balancing should cost a good Rs.400 plus i think.. and u'll have to get it done all the time.

20th February 2007, 08:23	#1
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	Can i use the same wheels for my OHC and new swift ? hi bhpians ... need ur help. i'm having a 2001 OHC 1.3 and a 98zen. now i'm planning to change my zen to have a swift vdi.i love to have alloys for my swift and a trye upsize. heard that both cars having same PCD. here comes my doubt. my OHC's tyre size is 170/70/13. swift is having stock 165/80/14. can i have an alloy/tyre set which can be used in both cars. please excuce me if its a blunder. i my mind its 185/60/14 or 195/60/14. please give some advise. thanks in advance.
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20th February 2007, 10:07	#2
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,858 Thanked: 27,925 Times View My Garage	You can, I run my vtec on stock swift steel rims wearing 195 tyres on track
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20th February 2007, 10:43	#3
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	You can. The City's ride will stiffen up more than on the Swift
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20th February 2007, 10:55	#4
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	thanks friends.. please suggest me to buy the correct tyres and an alloy, which i can use it on both of my cars. i'm not having a huge budget for this upgrade. which size should i go for, for the wheel and the tyres. how much it cost around.
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20th February 2007, 12:02	#5
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	Discussed quintinial times, but for your comfort here goes: 1. Yokohamas lead the pack. ES100, AVS Sport 2. Michelins equally competent. Pilot Sport, Pilot Preceda, Pilot Primacy (asymmetrical). All these are unidirectional tyres with a single-side stepney. Ensure that the tyres are swapped between cars in the same positions.
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5th March 2007, 14:31	#6
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	oh. man... sad news for me.. yokos not available at trivandrum. where shall i get it. anywhere in kerala.
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5th March 2007, 14:40	#7
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	I got the Yokohama's from Bangalore. PM me if u need more info. They are awesome tyres. And stay away from New Bharat Tyres if u don't wanna get ripped off...seriously And first decide on ur tyre size...then search for the tyres. Not all sizes are available in all brands so.. Hope that'll help
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5th March 2007, 14:45	#8
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	thanks.. karthik.. i'll surely contact u for details before buying. i'm looking for 195/65-15. or 195/60-15 http://www.lovepostcards.net/288100 )))))))))))))))
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5th March 2007, 16:01	#9
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Guys...!!!! I'm not getting this or what...!!! How is this possible?? OHC 175/70-13 circumference 1807.04mm Swift 165/80-14 circumference 1946.53mm The difference in circumference of both tyres is more than 7%.....the advisable limit is 2-3% max The PCD is same so u can interchange rims .... But tyres i highly doubt u can get an upsize which may suit both the cars...Either it will make OHC taller or Swift lower nigga style..... KP
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5th March 2007, 16:09	#10
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Gautham - There is no perfect upsize which can be fitted on both the cars as KP has already pointed out above. If you choose to buy only when set to use on both cars (considering they'll be swapped among the cars at some point of time) then both the cars will have to have tyres which are not ideal upgrades for them. The difference in stock OD is simply too much to be compensated for by upsizing the tyres. Are you sure you're okay with that?
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5th March 2007, 17:04	#11
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	ya.. i understand. now i have made a slight change in my plan. to have a 14" alloys and 195/70-14 for my upcoming swift.. and to use those new steel rims of swift for my OHC with a suitable tubeless tyres--may be 195/60-14.*if my budget allows* (OHC now running on 13" mrf zvts with tube....... its terrible.) i welcome suggetions http://www.lovepostcards.net/288100 )))))))))))))))
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5th March 2007, 17:11	#12
rks BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ?? Posts: 1,238 Thanked: 17 Times	Apart from what kpzen and iraghava have pointed out, I would like to add some concerns. It does not seem to be a good idea to use one set of tyres for two cars because very often monitoring the tread wear pattern is the only reliable indication of misalignment and/or low/high tyre pressures. Here you will not have have a clue as to which car is having the problem(s), if any. The other doubt in my mind is regarding offset. Even if the two cars have the same PCD, the offset need not be the same. If there is a big discrepancy, better to use two separate sets of wheels. Anyway, if you insist on using one set, at least make sure that the speed and load ratings of the tyres are sufficient for both cars. Last edited by rks : 5th March 2007 at 17:14.
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5th March 2007, 18:45	#13
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Does interchanging the tyres all the time mean u have to get the alignment done each time as well??
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5th March 2007, 19:29	#15
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	And it's gonna be difficult for u to enjoy the tyres cuz when u drive the OHC, u'll have to put the tyres from the Swift and when u drive the Swift, u'll have to put the wheels from the OHC...whew!! Also alignment+balancing should cost a good Rs.400 plus i think.. and u'll have to get it done all the time.
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