Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

jkdas · 9th February 2012, 09:03

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

my bad, its 235/70

I was talking about hawkz R/Ts. They were never OE.
About wanderer, it does not seem to be an A/T tire. Too Highway like tread pattern.

Guess I will stick to Cross contact A/T unless I can find BFG All Terrain TA/KO

Sure? I have seen new Safari's with Hawkz 2-3 years ago and have read few having it at TBHP.

rjstyles69 · 9th February 2012, 09:56

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Anyone used Apollo Hawkz R/Ts 255/65R16 on safari stock alloy rims.

Safari stock size is 235/60 R16. So sidewall diff is negligible.
However, safari stock rim is 6.5J.
Is 7.0J the minimum required for ths size? Or will 255 fit fine on stock rim.

Been running the same size 255/65-R16 , Geolanders on my scorpio's stock rims. AFAIK the Scorpio's stock rim width is 6.5J and this size fits perfectly.

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Originally Posted by v&v

, IMO the side wall of Hawkz too was similar to Yoko AT.

How did you arrive at this, I mean the sidewall similarity ?

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Originally Posted by v&v

Yes 255 requires 7.0J and bumper scrapping issue will also be there.

Could be with the Safari , I drive a scorpio and no such problems. Definitely worth a try by putting them on the Dicor and checking.

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Yes, its 235/70 R16. You can put 255's on stock but not recommended.

Why not jk, the next up-size for a 235 is 255 on a 6.5J rim.Am I missing something here ?

tsk1979 · 9th February 2012, 10:09

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Sure? I have seen new Safari's with Hawkz 2-3 years ago and have read few having it at TBHP.

That is the Hawkz A/T, not the R/T
Hawkz RT is a totally different tire.

lohithrao · 9th February 2012, 11:20

Folks i will be getting my truck next week sometime, very likely its going to have Duellers.
my usage will be mostly highway/bad roads and some offroad.

Does it make sense to stick with Duellers or try something else?

tsk1979 · 9th February 2012, 12:00

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Folks i will be getting my truck next week sometime, very likely its going to have Duellers.
my usage will be mostly highway/bad roads and some offroad.

Does it make sense to stick with Duellers or try something else?

Safari 4x4 or 4x2? If you plan to do rocky roads in offroad terrain, get A/T tires
Talk to a tire dealer in advance, you can get 5000+ per bridgestone as exchange value.
Any A/T tire such as continental cross contact, Apollo hawkz AT etc will do

dhanushs · 9th February 2012, 12:14

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Folks i will be getting my truck next week sometime, very likely its going to have Duellers.
my usage will be mostly highway/bad roads and some offroad.

Does it make sense to stick with Duellers or try something else?

I'm having Bridgstone Duller AT's in my Jeep and they seem to have a pretty rugged sidewall. Its more than one time, I have escaped from tree stumps.

So, if you are intending to go through rocky terrain, I'd advise that.

lohithrao · 9th February 2012, 12:42

Thanks TSK, mine is 4x2

i may not be doing rocky terain, but yes lots of gravel, bad roads and maye some rock.

so you think AT tires is recommended?

btw which is better between Hawkz and Continental? saw new grandes with hawkz and how much the AT tires may cost?

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Safari 4x4 or 4x2? If you plan to do rocky roads in offroad terrain, get A/T tires
Talk to a tire dealer in advance, you can get 5000+ per bridgestone as exchange value.
Any A/T tire such as continental cross contact, Apollo hawkz AT etc will do

Thanks danush, will consider this awell..

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Originally Posted by dhanushs

I'm having Bridgstone Duller AT's in my Jeep and they seem to have a pretty rugged sidewall. Its more than one time, I have escaped from tree stumps.

So, if you are intending to go through rocky terrain, I'd advise that.

Lukeskywalker · 9th February 2012, 13:48

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btw which is better between Hawkz and Continental? saw new grandes with hawkz and how much the AT tires may cost?

Lohit, why don't you upgrade to Yokohama Geolandars ATS, they will suit your requirement perfectly. Geolandars are currently 6750/- per tyre in Bangalore.

lohithrao · 9th February 2012, 15:13

Thanks sir, this seems to be a good contender, btw is Dueller a livable tyre for the truck?

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Originally Posted by Lukeskywalker

Lohit, why don't you upgrade to Yokohama Geolandars ATS, they will suit your requirement perfectly. Geolandars are currently 6750/- per tyre in Bangalore.

jkdas · 9th February 2012, 16:12

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Thanks sir, this seems to be a good contender, btw is Dueller a livable tyre for the truck?

It is. I felt more confident just after I moved to Geo from Duel when doing high speeds. And I guess braking too improved.

rjstyles69 · 9th February 2012, 20:45

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Thanks sir, this seems to be a good contender, btw is Dueller a livable tyre for the truck?

Noise is the biggest issue and not to forget these aint great tires for wet conditions.Go the Geolander way, it wont disappoint you.

lohithrao · 10th February 2012, 09:51

Thanks! jk and riju i think i will go the Yokohama way

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Lukeskywalker · 10th February 2012, 09:55

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Thanks sir, this seems to be a good contender, btw is Dueller a livable tyre for the truck?

Lohit, let us put it like this, most of the safaris and scorpios on the road today are running on stock OE tyres, I don't think everyone is complaining, but we guys on the forum think and experience the "extra" knowledge via the forum and want to change and then "experience" the change, obviously the phoren brands are better as the technology used is ahead of our manufacturers, but then one has to understand the driving style of the user and the extra cost involved in changing into a more expensive tyre from a perfectly ok OE set of tyres.
This is strictly my observations and any ignorance of facts is to be blamed entirely on my opinion (in other words, trying to avoid being flamed )

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lohithrao · 10th February 2012, 12:06

Just spoke to a dealer in Mangalore, he is ready to swap the tyres for no cost, maybe he will charge me fitting charges. even my friend will be getting his truck on the same day and we both will be getting the swap of all 5tyres

btw what if i get the Hawkz ATS with the safari

lohithrao · 10th February 2012, 14:53

I think i spoke early, the dealer calls me up and says i would need to pay the difference amount of 7k for this swap, is it a decent deal?

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Just spoke to a dealer in Mangalore, he is ready to swap the tyres for no cost, maybe he will charge me fitting charges. even my friend will be getting his truck on the same day and we both will be getting the swap of all 5tyres

btw what if i get the Hawkz ATS with the safari

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lohithrao Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kudla/Mangaluru Posts: 3,204 Thanked: 225 Times View My Garage	re: Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread Thanks! jk and riju i think i will go the Yokohama way.
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lohithrao Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kudla/Mangaluru Posts: 3,204 Thanked: 225 Times View My Garage	re: Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread Just spoke to a dealer in Mangalore, he is ready to swap the tyres for no cost, maybe he will charge me fitting charges. even my friend will be getting his truck on the same day and we both will be getting the swap of all 5tyres btw what if i get the Hawkz ATS with the safari
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