Changed to Michelin Energy XM1 from almost new Goodyear NCT-5

rishi_kapoor · 14th July 2007, 13:24

Hi Guys,

just returned after changing my Petra's less than 11000 KMs old Goodyear NCT-5 tyres to Michelin XM1. I would drive a bit around and than post review on performance. On the face of it the ride is ultra comfortable and no road noise. Michelin claims 10% reduction is fuel consumption due to patented silicom compound...lets see.

Reason for change: Second time one of the tyre had sidewall cut in normal driving conditions. I just replaced a tyre for sidewall cut about 2 months ago and this time during my Badrinath-Kedarnath trip the same tyre (less than 500KMs) again had a sidewall cut after hitting a pothole at 70KMPH on Meerut bypass. So I lost my confidence in Goodyear NCT5s.

The size is same as before i.e. 185/65/R-14 rated-H.

Regards,
-Rishi

swathyd · 14th July 2007, 14:16

We are eagerly waiting for your long term review and also on whether there is any improvement in FE as michelin claims.

namit · 14th July 2007, 14:56

Hi Rishi !!

Even i have Goodyear NCT5 on my Aveo ... driven 12000 kms and not satisfied with the grip and stability at above normal speeds (80 - 100).

I understand that Petra must be heavier than Aveo but did you experience any such issues as (you must have read my thread) i am also going for Bridgestones ER300 which come standard with Aveo now.

Or let me know any specific reason why you changed to Michellin.

Thanks !!

rishi_kapoor · 16th July 2007, 14:11

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Originally Posted by namit

Hi Rishi !!

Even i have Goodyear NCT5 on my Aveo ... driven 12000 kms and not satisfied with the grip and stability at above normal speeds (80 - 100).

I understand that Petra must be heavier than Aveo but did you experience any such issues as (you must have read my thread) i am also going for Bridgestones ER300 which come standard with Aveo now.

Or let me know any specific reason why you changed to Michellin.

Thanks !!

SWATHYD: I dont drive Petra on weekdays we only use it for long travel, so FE test would take a while.

NAMIT: I am driving Michelin on my automatic Lancer and I am really impressed with its comfort and safety. I had to brake hard once in bad weather (heavy rains) at 100/110 and the car safely navigated me. The road noise is virtually zero.

NCT-5s though offer okay ride comfort but are unpredictable in wet conditions. At high speed drives (175 on NE-1) they maintained grip. I really got pissed off by 2 sidewall cuts thus lost confidence in NCT5.

Michelin though expansive delivers what is expected.

greatDrive · 16th July 2007, 15:39

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Originally Posted by rishi_kapoor

Michelin though expansive delivers what is expected.

How much did it cost for a tyre?
What can be the expected price of 195/60/R14?
I am getting quote of Rs 4150 in Bangalore? Is the price right?
Similar size Potenza GIII costs Rs3400 per tyre.

iraghava · 16th July 2007, 17:37

Energy XM1 in 195/60 R14 should be around 3.5k, give or take a couple of hundred bucks. 4.15k is TOO high, for comparison I got Pilot Preceda's in 195/60 R14 for 4k each.

kalidas · 25th August 2008, 02:35

I got my XM1 for about 3.5, a little less maybe and they've been good around corners ... need something better to displace water though, an inch of water at 100 kmph and there's a little wobble, got the old vtec, maybe something heavier will help

bluenest99 · 3rd October 2008, 09:38

@Kalidas, where did you get the XM1 in b'lore and how much did you pay? Are you satisfied? which is better, XM1+ or XM1+ Energy.

jesal · 3rd October 2008, 11:18

Reason for change: Second time one of the tyre had sidewall cut in normal driving conditions. I just replaced a tyre for sidewall cut about 2 months ago and this time during my Badrinath-Kedarnath trip the same tyre (less than 500KMs) again had a sidewall cut after hitting a pothole at 70KMPH on Meerut bypass. So I lost my confidence in Goodyear NCT5s.

if u think the michilen wont cut ure in for a horrid surprise. i spent 15k on 4 michilen tyres last month. the next day itself my father hit a sidewall at a very LOW speed i lost 2 tyres, both of them had cuts. i went back to nct5. knowing india and its crappy roads these arent for india at all. not that india will get good city roads ever. i made huge mistake getting michilens for one day.

GTO · 3rd October 2008, 14:47

I don't get how Michelin claims to improve FE. All other things being the same, lesser rolling resistance is the only factor that can improve FE (just as in electric / hybrid car tyres). But then, that would surely compromise your braking distance?

indersandhu · 12th November 2008, 11:22

Guys,

Im about to change the tyres of my Verna CRDi, upgrading from 175/70R14 to 185/65 R14. I was deciding between Michelin ENERGY XM1+ & GOOD YEAR NCT5. Reading your reviews, i am confused all the more. Can any body suggest genuinely which are better ??

iNdEr....

akroy · 12th November 2008, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by indersandhu

Guys,

Im about to change the tyres of my Verna CRDi, upgrading from 175/70R14 to 185/65 R14. I was deciding between Michelin ENERGY XM1+ & GOOD YEAR NCT5. Reading your reviews, i am confused all the more. Can any body suggest genuinely which are better ??

iNdEr....

There is no comparison between these 2 brands.
Michelin Energy all the way

Abhi

indersandhu · 17th November 2008, 15:43

thanx buddy...

finally decided on 185/65 R14 MICHELIN ENERGY XM1+ with 14" PLATI ALLOYS...

14th July 2007, 13:24	#1
rishi_kapoor BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Noida Posts: 486 Thanked: 672 Times View My Garage	Changed to Michelin Energy XM1 from almost new Goodyear NCT-5 Hi Guys, just returned after changing my Petra's less than 11000 KMs old Goodyear NCT-5 tyres to Michelin XM1. I would drive a bit around and than post review on performance. On the face of it the ride is ultra comfortable and no road noise. Michelin claims 10% reduction is fuel consumption due to patented silicom compound...lets see. Reason for change: Second time one of the tyre had sidewall cut in normal driving conditions. I just replaced a tyre for sidewall cut about 2 months ago and this time during my Badrinath-Kedarnath trip the same tyre (less than 500KMs) again had a sidewall cut after hitting a pothole at 70KMPH on Meerut bypass. So I lost my confidence in Goodyear NCT5s. The size is same as before i.e. 185/65/R-14 rated-H. Regards, -Rishi
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14th July 2007, 14:16	#2
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	We are eagerly waiting for your long term review and also on whether there is any improvement in FE as michelin claims.
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14th July 2007, 14:56	#3
namit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 402 Thanked: 55 Times	Hi Rishi !! Even i have Goodyear NCT5 on my Aveo ... driven 12000 kms and not satisfied with the grip and stability at above normal speeds (80 - 100). I understand that Petra must be heavier than Aveo but did you experience any such issues as (you must have read my thread) i am also going for Bridgestones ER300 which come standard with Aveo now. Or let me know any specific reason why you changed to Michellin. Thanks !!
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16th July 2007, 17:37	#6
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Energy XM1 in 195/60 R14 should be around 3.5k, give or take a couple of hundred bucks. 4.15k is TOO high, for comparison I got Pilot Preceda's in 195/60 R14 for 4k each.
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25th August 2008, 02:35	#7
kalidas Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 15 Thanked: 2 Times	I got my XM1 for about 3.5, a little less maybe and they've been good around corners ... need something better to displace water though, an inch of water at 100 kmph and there's a little wobble, got the old vtec, maybe something heavier will help
	() Thanks

3rd October 2008, 09:38	#8
bluenest99 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 43 Thanked: 0 Times	@Kalidas, where did you get the XM1 in b'lore and how much did you pay? Are you satisfied? which is better, XM1+ or XM1+ Energy.
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3rd October 2008, 11:18	#9
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	Reason for change: Second time one of the tyre had sidewall cut in normal driving conditions. I just replaced a tyre for sidewall cut about 2 months ago and this time during my Badrinath-Kedarnath trip the same tyre (less than 500KMs) again had a sidewall cut after hitting a pothole at 70KMPH on Meerut bypass. So I lost my confidence in Goodyear NCT5s. if u think the michilen wont cut ure in for a horrid surprise. i spent 15k on 4 michilen tyres last month. the next day itself my father hit a sidewall at a very LOW speed i lost 2 tyres, both of them had cuts. i went back to nct5. knowing india and its crappy roads these arent for india at all. not that india will get good city roads ever. i made huge mistake getting michilens for one day.
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3rd October 2008, 14:47	#10
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,519 Thanked: 300,709 Times View My Garage	I don't get how Michelin claims to improve FE. All other things being the same, lesser rolling resistance is the only factor that can improve FE (just as in electric / hybrid car tyres). But then, that would surely compromise your braking distance?
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12th November 2008, 11:22	#11
indersandhu Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Jamshedpur Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	Im confused... Guys, Im about to change the tyres of my Verna CRDi, upgrading from 175/70R14 to 185/65 R14. I was deciding between Michelin ENERGY XM1+ & GOOD YEAR NCT5. Reading your reviews, i am confused all the more. Can any body suggest genuinely which are better ?? iNdEr....
	() Thanks

17th November 2008, 15:43	#13
indersandhu Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Jamshedpur Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	thanx buddy... finally decided on 185/65 R14 MICHELIN ENERGY XM1+ with 14" PLATI ALLOYS...
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