Honda Civic : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

Nikhilb2008 · 13th October 2009, 21:57

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Originally Posted by ST7677

Also considering the new kid on the block Yokohama AVS DB tyres, 205/65/15 costs Rs.4800 each at company go down.

This thing has orange oil, which makes the tread soft (and sticky) as the tyre heats up (during high performance). So it's a high performance tyre, with good life (when not being driven hard), has very low noise and good comfort.

All sounds too good to read, but I hope it lives upto these claims. Any opinions?
BTW Yoko claims of very good dry and wet grip...

Hey, the company godown doesnt sell to customers. If you are referring to what I think you are referring to, then it isnt a company godown. There is only one company godown in Bangalore and that is in Banashankari.

Frankly, I would stay away from the AVS DB. I did a bit of research(see the SX4 tyres thread) and turns out that the AVS DB doesnt have great grip in the wet.

In this size, I would say the CPC2 is the best if you are looking at some sort of road holding capability. For comfort, the Primacy LC is far ahead of the rest.

reppy · 14th October 2009, 11:21

Hey all - just an update.

Changed the car's tires to the upsized 205/65/R15 B390 at 40,000 kms. The car's finished 20,000 more and at 60k, have had a LOT fewer underbody scrapes and these tires definitely inspire confidence.

On the downside, the suspension has become slightly harder now and not as absorbent as before. Don't know if that's because of the tires though.

Overall, this is a recommended upgrade.

nareshtrao · 21st October 2009, 11:42

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Originally Posted by vid6639

How about the 3L Vtec's alloys. both the new and old ones look sweet. Ishan can you confirm the PCD.

205/55-16 will reduce the GC by 2 mm.

The PCD of the Accord 16" Rims are same as Civic. However, there are very few old rims available. I tried sourcing in Bangalore and realized that none were available.

iTNerd · 21st October 2009, 17:12

Are the new Civics coming with Michellin MXV8? Mine is getting delivered within a week, and I have insisted for Michellin and the dealer had obliged. I wanted to upsize the tyres to 205/65/15 using the same 15" stock alloys. From this thread, I heard about Michelin Primary LC.

1) Has anyone got this? How is the road-noise and ride?
2) How much can I expect to get in Delhi?
3) How much can I expect to get for the stock Michellin MXV8 195/65/15?

And lastly, would upgrading to 205/65 R15 void any warranty on the suspension/car?

manim · 21st October 2009, 20:57

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Originally Posted by iTNerd

Are the new Civics coming with Michellin MXV8?

I think that MXV8 are discontinued and replaced by Primacy LC.

My personal opinion on MXV8 after 20K usage is, they are very noisy.
Ironic, since Michelin advertised that they are very, very silent.
(My OEM was NCT5).

Nikhilb2008 · 21st October 2009, 22:10

Nope. The new Civics will be coming with 195/65 R15 Michelin XM1+. In addition to Bridgestone B250 and Goodyear NCT5.

dinu2506 · 22nd October 2009, 08:17

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Originally Posted by iTNerd

Are the new Civics coming with Michellin MXV8? Mine is getting delivered within a week, and I have insisted for Michellin and the dealer had obliged. I wanted to upsize the tyres to 205/65/15 using the same 15" stock alloys. From this thread, I heard about Michelin Primary LC.

1) Has anyone got this? How is the road-noise and ride?
2) How much can I expect to get in Delhi?
3) How much can I expect to get for the stock Michellin MXV8 195/65/15?

And lastly, would upgrading to 205/65 R15 void any warranty on the suspension/car?

I upgraded last week to 205 65 R15 Bridgestone Turanza ER60. Of course, the car is 3 yrs old, so I did not get anything for the stock tires which had done 24000km. Primacy LC was also in contention but for some reason I did not like the looks. It looks very feminine with a very mild tread design. The Turanza looks really wide and its a good all round tire. The tire noise has come down compared to the stock Goodyears, but I would not say its totally gone. Yet to check the FE since it is still running on the same tankful.
Not sure about the price you can expect for the stock tires. This is because 195 65 15 is not a very common tyre which can sell in the 2nd hand mass market.

nareshtrao · 22nd October 2009, 09:56

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Originally Posted by dinu2506

I upgraded last week to 205 65 R15 Bridgestone Turanza ER60. Of course, the car is 3 yrs old, so I did not get anything for the stock tires which had done 24000km. Primacy LC was also in contention but for some reason I did not like the looks. It looks very feminine with a very mild tread design. The Turanza looks really wide and its a good all round tire. The tire noise has come down compared to the stock Goodyears, but I would not say its totally gone. Yet to check the FE since it is still running on the same tankful.
Not sure about the price you can expect for the stock tires. This is because 195 65 15 is not a very common tyre which can sell in the 2nd hand mass market.

One question Dinu.... Did you go for 5 wheels? If yes, does the spare sit properly in the spare wheel space? Or is it an uncomfortable fit? Please advise. Thanks.

dinu2506 · 22nd October 2009, 10:39

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Originally Posted by nareshtrao

One question Dinu.... Did you go for 5 wheels? If yes, does the spare sit properly in the spare wheel space? Or is it an uncomfortable fit? Please advise. Thanks.

Good question, answer - I don't know

I just changed 4 tires, the spare is till the old 195 65 R15. I really did not bother to check whether the 205's will have a seating problem in the boot. Anyway, I intend to use the 195 only during the time the punctured one is being repaired, so I don't see a big concern

nareshtrao · 22nd October 2009, 12:01

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Originally Posted by dinu2506

Good question, answer - I don't know

I just changed 4 tires, the spare is till the old 195 65 R15. I really did not bother to check whether the 205's will have a seating problem in the boot. Anyway, I intend to use the 195 only during the time the punctured one is being repaired, so I don't see a big concern

Thanks indeed. I think I will still go for an upgrade. What is the price you paid for them?

rr_zen · 22nd October 2009, 12:21

Since the spare tire topic has come up - The current Civics, I understand do not come with the regular spare tire (195/65 R15) but the doughnut tire.

Is it possible to accommodate the regular spare tire in place of the doughnut tire in the trunk ?

nareshtrao · 22nd October 2009, 12:26

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Originally Posted by rr_zen

Since the spare tire topic has come up - The current Civics, I understand do not come with the regular spare tire (195/65 R15) but the doughnut tire.

Is it possible to accommodate the regular spare tire in place of the doughnut tire in the trunk ?

This is news. I did not know that new Civics did not have Full Size Spare. Can any new Civic Owner confirm that please? The trend seems to be catching up after BMW, Chevy Captiva et. al.

rr_zen · 22nd October 2009, 12:37

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Originally Posted by nareshtrao

This is news. I did not know that new Civics did not have Full Size Spare. Can any new Civic Owner confirm that please? The trend seems to be catching up after BMW, Chevy Captiva et. al.

Go through the entire thread. From what Civic owners have reported, the spare alloy tire (regular one) has been done away with sometime in late 2008. Those who were able to get their beasts before that time are indeed lucky.

dinu2506 · 22nd October 2009, 13:54

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Originally Posted by nareshtrao

Thanks indeed. I think I will still go for an upgrade. What is the price you paid for them?

Paid 4450/- a piece, Fitment and Balancing extra

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Originally Posted by rr_zen

Go through the entire thread. From what Civic owners have reported, the spare alloy tire (regular one) has been done away with sometime in late 2008. Those who were able to get their beasts before that time are indeed lucky.

This is news, did not know about it. Spoke to a person who took a Civic in Oct 2008 and he has a full size spare.

rr_zen · 22nd October 2009, 14:28

I came to know of the full size spare tire having been done away with, from this thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...mproved-4.html

Civic owners can throw more light on this.

14th October 2009, 11:21	#182
reppy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 521 Thanked: 613 Times	Hey all - just an update. Changed the car's tires to the upsized 205/65/R15 B390 at 40,000 kms. The car's finished 20,000 more and at 60k, have had a LOT fewer underbody scrapes and these tires definitely inspire confidence. On the downside, the suspension has become slightly harder now and not as absorbent as before. Don't know if that's because of the tires though. Overall, this is a recommended upgrade.
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21st October 2009, 17:12	#184
iTNerd Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Imphal/Noida Posts: 1,241 Thanked: 1,214 Times View My Garage	Are the new Civics coming with Michellin MXV8? Mine is getting delivered within a week, and I have insisted for Michellin and the dealer had obliged. I wanted to upsize the tyres to 205/65/15 using the same 15" stock alloys. From this thread, I heard about Michelin Primary LC. 1) Has anyone got this? How is the road-noise and ride? 2) How much can I expect to get in Delhi? 3) How much can I expect to get for the stock Michellin MXV8 195/65/15? And lastly, would upgrading to 205/65 R15 void any warranty on the suspension/car?
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21st October 2009, 22:10	#186
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,137 Times	Nope. The new Civics will be coming with 195/65 R15 Michelin XM1+. In addition to Bridgestone B250 and Goodyear NCT5.
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22nd October 2009, 12:21	#191
rr_zen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 1,799 Thanked: 400 Times View My Garage	Since the spare tire topic has come up - The current Civics, I understand do not come with the regular spare tire (195/65 R15) but the doughnut tire. Is it possible to accommodate the regular spare tire in place of the doughnut tire in the trunk ? Last edited by rr_zen : 22nd October 2009 at 12:22.
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22nd October 2009, 14:28	#195
rr_zen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 1,799 Thanked: 400 Times View My Garage	I came to know of the full size spare tire having been done away with, from this thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...mproved-4.html Civic owners can throw more light on this.
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