Purchasing two new tyres should i install it in front or back

BMW-X5 · 22nd October 2007, 12:37

Guys,

I have purchased two new tyres for my sister's M800 as the back tyres were almost worn out. The front tyres were replaced 6 months back and it look as good as new.The tyre shop guy has adviced me to move the front tryes to the back axle and get the new tyres installed in front.But till now i belived the otherway around ..you should get it fixed in the back axle to reduce fishtailing.But he was so confident so i got it installed in front and got the alignment done. But still i'm not toatally convinced ..gurus please advice.

moralfibre · 22nd October 2007, 12:56

I am no guru but what your tyre shop guy did is right.

toiingg · 22nd October 2007, 13:06

I am sure i read on some thread that the new tyres should go at the back and the old one's at front. Lemme search for that thread.

determinus · 22nd October 2007, 15:30

Will be great if you can find that thread. I also "used to" strongly believe that the wheels that has no drive train control should get the better tyres. So the best tyres go to the rear of the FWD vehicles. But when I changed the tyres of my Esteem, I was "advised" the same -- new tyres go at the front. I was very confused, but then, on paper and on road are two completely different situations. So, will be great if you can find that thread.

srishiva · 22nd October 2007, 15:33

New tyres should go to the rear always irrespective of the drive train.

vkochar · 22nd October 2007, 15:35

I am always told that the front tyres wear out sooner than the rear ones, so if that is true then what your tyre dealer did is correct.

rks · 22nd October 2007, 15:43

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Originally Posted by BMW-X5

Guys,

I have purchased two new tyres for my sister's M800 as the back tyres were almost worn out. The front tyres were replaced 6 months back and it look as good as new.

In this case there should be no problem in putting the new tyres to the front. Your existing front tyres have plenty of tread left and will not cause oversteer if moved to the back; in fact moving them to the back is almost like routine tyre rotation.

In the case when your front tyres are almost completely worn out and the rear tyres have about 50% or less tread left, then it is advised to move the rear tyres to the front and fit new tyres to the rear (basically to avoid oversteer, especially on wet roads). But when you have worn out tyres on the front wheels of a FWD, the car's braking and steering does become bad, at least according to my experience.

So it is best to rotate tyres regularly and change all 4 tyres in one go.

itzzme · 22nd October 2007, 15:48

New tyres should always go in the rear axle.
In case of emergency braking, negotiating sharp turns etc the slip from the rear wheels make the vehicle loose control.
We have steering to control front wheels but we have nothing to control rear wheels.

To have better control bikes have broader tyres at rear, some sports car also have broader tyres at rear.

BMW-X5 · 22nd October 2007, 16:01

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Originally Posted by vkochar

I am always told that the front tyres wear out sooner than the rear ones, so if that is true then what your tyre dealer did is correct.

Even My tyre shop guy has told the same thing. I had to agree with him as i was not very sure about it. Though i was not convince as i still remeber some where i read that if you buy 2 tyres it should go to rear axile(It was very reliable source but i dont remember where it was). So i thought of leaving to our T-Bhp experts.

Ajaybiz · 22nd October 2007, 16:03

For front wheel drive engines and that too when engine is at front, mounting a new tyres at front will do the justice.

shivapsreddy · 22nd October 2007, 16:12

I think the new tyres shoud be used in the front wheels. But please check the alignment before and use the new ones. If the alignement is not correct then the new tyres will be damaged/worn out.

M800 is front wheel driven, with the new tyres on the front you get good grip. The front tyres will be worn out faster than the rear ones. So after some time all the tyres will be left with the similar amout of rubber.

gopz · 22nd October 2007, 16:15

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Originally Posted by toiingg

I am sure i read on some thread that the new tyres should go at the back and the old one's at front. Lemme search for that thread.

Its here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...0-tires-5.html

BMW-X5 · 22nd October 2007, 16:56

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Originally Posted by gopz

Its here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...0-tires-5.html

Thanks man, this really helps.

I will ask them to move the new tyres to rear.

humyum · 22nd October 2007, 17:42

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Originally Posted by BMW-X5

Thanks man, this really helps.

I will ask them to move the new tyres to rear.

Why all the mehnat dude?6 month old tyres are almost new and what the tyre guy has done is right.In a front wheel driven car like the 800 which has pathetic brakes and discs in the front better tyres is always an advantage in the front.As 70 % of the braking is done by the front wheels read as disc brakes..!!
Assume that u have bald tyres in the 800 in the front and u brake hard they are just gonna lock without any grip and u r car will be inside some vehicle it should not have been had there been grippy tyres in the front.

In ur case its all the same now.Rotate the tyres how u would normally after 5000 km.

Technocrat · 22nd October 2007, 17:51

Brand new tyres shoudl go to front. even the posted link says the same check post # 64 & 65.

Basically the front wears faster than rear ones for reason already mentioned by other members.

22nd October 2007, 12:37	#1
BMW-X5 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 188 Thanked: 10 Times	Purchasing two new tyres should i install it in front or back Guys, I have purchased two new tyres for my sister's M800 as the back tyres were almost worn out. The front tyres were replaced 6 months back and it look as good as new.The tyre shop guy has adviced me to move the front tryes to the back axle and get the new tyres installed in front.But till now i belived the otherway around ..you should get it fixed in the back axle to reduce fishtailing.But he was so confident so i got it installed in front and got the alignment done. But still i'm not toatally convinced ..gurus please advice. Last edited by BMW-X5 : 22nd October 2007 at 12:53.
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22nd October 2007, 12:56	#2
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,970 Times	I am no guru but what your tyre shop guy did is right.
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22nd October 2007, 13:06	#3
toiingg BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 639 Thanked: 266 Times	I am sure i read on some thread that the new tyres should go at the back and the old one's at front. Lemme search for that thread.
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22nd October 2007, 15:30	#4
determinus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 277 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Will be great if you can find that thread. I also "used to" strongly believe that the wheels that has no drive train control should get the better tyres. So the best tyres go to the rear of the FWD vehicles. But when I changed the tyres of my Esteem, I was "advised" the same -- new tyres go at the front. I was very confused, but then, on paper and on road are two completely different situations. So, will be great if you can find that thread.
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22nd October 2007, 15:33	#5
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	New tyres should go to the rear always irrespective of the drive train.
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22nd October 2007, 15:35	#6
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	I am always told that the front tyres wear out sooner than the rear ones, so if that is true then what your tyre dealer did is correct.
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22nd October 2007, 15:48	#8
itzzme BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 314 Thanked: 6 Times	New tyres should always go in the rear axle. In case of emergency braking, negotiating sharp turns etc the slip from the rear wheels make the vehicle loose control. We have steering to control front wheels but we have nothing to control rear wheels. To have better control bikes have broader tyres at rear, some sports car also have broader tyres at rear.
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22nd October 2007, 16:03	#10
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,440 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	For front wheel drive engines and that too when engine is at front, mounting a new tyres at front will do the justice.
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22nd October 2007, 16:12	#11
shivapsreddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nuremberg,Germany Posts: 62 Thanked: 0 Times	I think the new tyres shoud be used in the front wheels. But please check the alignment before and use the new ones. If the alignement is not correct then the new tyres will be damaged/worn out. M800 is front wheel driven, with the new tyres on the front you get good grip. The front tyres will be worn out faster than the rear ones. So after some time all the tyres will be left with the similar amout of rubber.
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22nd October 2007, 17:51	#15
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Brand new tyres shoudl go to front. even the posted link says the same check post # 64 & 65. Basically the front wears faster than rear ones for reason already mentioned by other members.
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