[sdp1975]

The tread looks to have worn out pretty fast from the pics, at 16K that's too early.

[reignofchaos]

That tyre is gone. Its best if you replace it ASAP as its probably a safety hazard.

Even my Advan Neovas with 180 treadwear rating (vs 320 or 400 for these) are in a much better state than that after 15k.

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by filcord

Have been running XM1 185/70R13 (not XM1+) on my Baleno for 32000 km now, and not even a flat tyre. All I do is religiously rotate and align every 5k kms. They saved my life on a panic stop few months back in Karnataka. It looks they will go on till 40k kms. Anyway, my next change will remain a Michelin.

+1. Even my XM1+ that were on my Accent Viva CRDi which was used for almost 23K "without" a single flat was in beautiful condition with regards to tyre thread depth and it can last easily for >45K kms.

[lohithrao]

Thanks guys, even am thinking of the same i guess will do a thorough check of the all the tyres and make the final call.

Bridg Turanzas cost about 4k+:(

also have noticed lots of tyre noise for last 2-3k kms

feel like cheated as i paid a premium amount for a tyre which could not take moderate usage!

[bottle]

Those tyres look pretty badly worn. Which car is this ? Do you do a lot of high speed turns and hard braking ?

[lohithrao]

bottle its Adventure(Palio), well am not a slow drive and not too fast and high speed breaking i try to avoid.

bridgestone turanzas on my OHC when i sold the car was about 22k kms and it looked pretty new and trust me those tyres had seen much bad roads, i guess its the compound material here...

i guess if you guys inspect the car in real might suggest to change the tyres right away as these pics are giving about 60% of what it really looks..

[bottle]

I had XM1 on my palio and the wear pattern was pretty similar after highway drives , I guess the weight and driving style counts for a lot but I never had cuts on the tyre. Someone else said with a Qualis on highways the tyres did 45k and still looked in good condition.

You can check my ownership thread, I had posted pictures of the tyre which I changed at 25k . The tread looked good but tyres had no grip

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by lohithrao

Some updates from my side...

Its abiut 16k+ kms and 2years since i got the XM!+ on my car and majority of these kms is on highway.

Yesterday was running a check on the tyres and was shocked to see plenty of cuts/bruise/damage on all the tyres though many are small but its shows very clearly how tough is this tyre!

i had not checked the tyres for some time and now am seeing this not sure how to react but for sure i know i will never ever look at "Michelin" again!

1 practical suggestion to all please dont buy this tyre unless you have plans to use it for about 15 or 20k kms...

have attached couple of pics should give an idea..

Lohith,
I have the Xm1 (and not XM1+) that I changed in my baleno at 26 k kms. Now at 67k, the tires have done 41 k kms and still look good for another 15 k or so. I drive fast and the terrain is a mixed bag of highways and country roads. One tire got a sidewall bulge [nail in the tire - > air down to 15 psi -> hit a large pothole at 120 kmph -> tire sidewall bulge and minor rim damage -> observed everything next morning as I did not feel anything amiss. The tire did not loose air and is doing duty in my spare.]

I am pretty happy with these tires though they can sometime look a bit like the one that you put in the pics. however, one nice wash later they are ready to take on more.

These tires have seen speeds upto 182 kmph and have never required balancing on their own (i do it every 10 k but they have never wobbled on their won)

[lohithrao]

Butterfan, well i guess i can push the tyres more but if my luck runs out i guess the price will be too high to pay

i guess most of the tyres can be pushed but the catch is the risk factor...

also am pissed as i have payed a premium amount for this tyre and in matter of 15+k kms its in bad shape...

[devarshi84]

I have recently noticed that Michelin tyre prices have risen the most. Also the better noise insulation lasts only for the first 10-20K kms only. I will certainly be looking at an alternative brand for both my cars now.

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by devarshi84

I have recently noticed that Michelin tyre prices have risen the most. Also the better noise insulation lasts only for the first 10-20K kms only. I will certainly be looking at an alternative brand for both my cars now.

Originally Posted by lohithrao

Butterfan, well i guess i can push the tyres more but if my luck runs out i guess the price will be too high to pay

i guess most of the tyres can be pushed but the catch is the risk factor...

also am pissed as i have payed a premium amount for this tyre and in matter of 15+k kms its in bad shape...

Both of you can also evaluate the Yoko C.Drives that I have in my Innova. Cheaper and Grip-pier than the Xm1. I uploaded a yoko tire positioning map at http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post2016906

These tires have done 15k in the Innova (225/60R15) are are very silent till now. Again sidewalls are not the strongest and life is never perfect - if you want ride comfort they have to be soft!

[PatienceWins]

What is the current price of XM1+ 185/65/R14?

[opalcute]

my swift dzire zdi runs in 185/70 R14 alloys if i want to change to 195/60 R15, i have to change the alloys??

what is the possible correct upgrade i can do from 185/70 R 14 without changing the alloys?

[pras.oct25]

Originally Posted by opalcute

my swift dzire zdi runs in 185/70 R14 alloys if i want to change to 195/60 R15, i have to change the alloys??

what is the possible correct upgrade i can do from 185/70 R 14 without changing the alloys?

Yes R15 is a bigger rim than R14. So you will have to change it.
You can upgrade to 195/60/R14 or 195/65/R14

[opalcute]

Originally Posted by pras.oct25

Yes R15 is a bigger rim than R14. So you will have to change it.
You can upgrade to 195/60/R14 or 195/65/R14

Thanks . I think 195/65/R14 is the one with minimum speedo error.

Which is the best? Michilin or yokokama?