Time to change the tyres... wot do i do?

amitoj · 5th January 2005, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

145/80 R12 is a big no,no. Unless you plan to drive it normally and vouch, never to rip it on twisty roads.

Nothing comes close to ripping a car on the twisties than on a straight highway.

Shan2nu

hahaha.... the day i dont rip the car on twisting roads will come the day after the world ends.

But to get the same acceleration from 155s, i will have to go for alloys, like u said. Now would one want to fit alloys on a car thats in its middle age? hmmm... wot do u think?

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Originally Posted by speedsatya

and the ride quality is really good in the new zensas compared to the older ones.

Satya, rice_tuner mentioned that the new zens have more coils in their suspension. So the better ride would be a combination of this and the 145/80 tyres, right? So how big a diff in ride quality would it make to my car which has the older suspension?

Amitoj

Shan2nu · 5th January 2005, 19:17

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Now would one want to fit alloys on a car thats in its middle age? hmmm... wot do u think?

If straightline performance is really that great a deal for you then yes, alloys will be worth it. Plus if it's a tubeless tyre, it's always good to have alloys instead of steel.

Shan2nu

amitoj · 5th January 2005, 20:29

straight line performance? in my rusty old zen? not really... i'd rather take my chances on bends and curves rather than on a straight stretch...

SLK · 5th January 2005, 20:51

.. Any idea if Michelin Certis are available in 145/70 R 13???
165/60 is available but I am not willing to put 165.. on a wagonR.
155/65 not available in Michelin

anyone heard of 145/70 R 13.. in Certis? I think if these are available .. it would be a good bet for a person (like me) who is more or less satisfied with 145s.

speedsatya · 5th January 2005, 21:24

hey slk,

go for the 155/65 r13 that the new wagonr vxi cums with.
u can also go for 165/60r13.
avoid 145/70r13,
the next upsize will be 185/55r13.

SLK · 5th January 2005, 22:19

I do want to go for... 155/65.. r13.. but.. aren't really available... in most brands....
from what I know.. only JK and Apollo!... and I want neither of them.

probably a good quality 145/70 (tubeless) would be better than... not so good 155/65

which brand 155s do u have satya?

speedsatya · 5th January 2005, 22:38

i have 155/65r13 goodyear GT3 tubeless.
the new wagon r vxi cum with these.
155/65 is there in all brands.
go for it

Tarun · 6th January 2005, 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLK

.. Any idea if Michelin Certis are available in 145/70 R 13???
165/60 is available but I am not willing to put 165.. on a wagonR.
155/65 not available in Michelin

anyone heard of 145/70 R 13.. in Certis? I think if these are available .. it would be a good bet for a person (like me) who is more or less satisfied with 145s.

Nope. I don't think that Michelin certis are available in 145/70 R13. During my tyre shopping last year, could not find one and i learnt that Michelins certis have their range beginning from atleast 165 profile. I myself wanted to have one. However, apart from Goodyear, no tubeless are available in that size.
BTW, 35k on zen is way to less for tyre change. I replaced my stock tyres (JK ultima) with bridgestone donuts at 78 k.

Tarun

amitoj · 6th January 2005, 12:25

Say, how are the donuts doing on ur car? I am thinking of going in for donuts as well...

Tarun · 6th January 2005, 14:41

Never had any problems (except one puncture ) in the past 20k covered so far. My impressions and comparisons would be based on the previous jk and now donuts (145/70 R13).

Handling : I did took some stiff turns at 80-90kmph, the corners held well. No screeching and quite predictable.
Also on wet surface, they behave pretty well. Did not inspire much confidence with Jk's here.
Ride quality: improved a lot, very smooth. This has soft supple walls which helps in absorbing and go easy on suspension too.
Noise : Initially were very quite, however now i hear a bit of road noise. This could be the reason that suspension is due for an overhaul, which i am going for this weekend.
Bigger grooves : Since it has bigger grooves i learnt that these may result in increased fuel consumption. Though none that i could notice.

I would call it nice overall package , with good ride quality. Many ppl here insisted that these same could be used as tubeless, wonder what made them think so ?
This has my recommendation, however, whatever you buy, just have the right air pressure, get them aligned and balanced at regular intervals with periodic rotation. Always helps !

Tarun

View Poll Results: Which specs?
Older one : 145/70R13	8	61.54%
New one : 145/80R12	5	38.46%
Voters: 13. You may not vote on this poll

5th January 2005, 20:29	#18
amitoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Windham, NH USA Posts: 3,348 Thanked: 3,071 Times View My Garage	straight line performance? in my rusty old zen? not really... i'd rather take my chances on bends and curves rather than on a straight stretch...
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5th January 2005, 20:51	#19
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	.. Any idea if Michelin Certis are available in 145/70 R 13??? 165/60 is available but I am not willing to put 165.. on a wagonR. 155/65 not available in Michelin anyone heard of 145/70 R 13.. in Certis? I think if these are available .. it would be a good bet for a person (like me) who is more or less satisfied with 145s.
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5th January 2005, 21:24	#20
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	hey slk, go for the 155/65 r13 that the new wagonr vxi cums with. u can also go for 165/60r13. avoid 145/70r13, the next upsize will be 185/55r13.
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5th January 2005, 22:19	#21
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	I do want to go for... 155/65.. r13.. but.. aren't really available... in most brands.... from what I know.. only JK and Apollo!... and I want neither of them. probably a good quality 145/70 (tubeless) would be better than... not so good 155/65 which brand 155s do u have satya? Last edited by SLK : 5th January 2005 at 22:21.
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5th January 2005, 22:38	#22
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	i have 155/65r13 goodyear GT3 tubeless. the new wagon r vxi cum with these. 155/65 is there in all brands. go for it
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6th January 2005, 12:25	#24
amitoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Windham, NH USA Posts: 3,348 Thanked: 3,071 Times View My Garage	Say, how are the donuts doing on ur car? I am thinking of going in for donuts as well...
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6th January 2005, 14:41	#25
Tarun BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Delhi Posts: 159 Thanked: 17 Times	Never had any problems (except one puncture ) in the past 20k covered so far. My impressions and comparisons would be based on the previous jk and now donuts (145/70 R13). Handling : I did took some stiff turns at 80-90kmph, the corners held well. No screeching and quite predictable. Also on wet surface, they behave pretty well. Did not inspire much confidence with Jk's here. Ride quality: improved a lot, very smooth. This has soft supple walls which helps in absorbing and go easy on suspension too. Noise : Initially were very quite, however now i hear a bit of road noise. This could be the reason that suspension is due for an overhaul, which i am going for this weekend. Bigger grooves : Since it has bigger grooves i learnt that these may result in increased fuel consumption. Though none that i could notice. I would call it nice overall package , with good ride quality. Many ppl here insisted that these same could be used as tubeless, wonder what made them think so ? This has my recommendation, however, whatever you buy, just have the right air pressure, get them aligned and balanced at regular intervals with periodic rotation. Always helps ! Tarun
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