New Tires for the ikon 1.6

danlalan · 14th February 2008, 22:33

Ive been running on S322's 175/70/R13 for 30000KMS now . And its time to change the tires since they've developed cracks in them due to age.

I dont really drive much. Its just 8kms or so a day(After work drive). And that once in a Month trip to lonavala(high speed run 195kph or so).

Looking for a good tire life. Decent comfort. Good handling.

Also Looking for an upsize in tires and Rims.

Tires: I would want to go in for a wider profile than what iam running right now. Was thinking of a 185 or a 195. Which is better.
Tube or Tubless???
185/60/r14 or 195/55/r14 or should i stick to the 13"s

Have heard of these so far as good tires.

Bridgestone Potenza G3's ( but hear they Squeak alot)
Yokohama Es100
P6000's Pirelli's
Dunlops but not sure which ones.
Any idea about the Prices in Mumbai for these tires and the Profile iam looking for???

Rims/Alloys.

Being 108 PCD(which matches with the Indigo and Ca) I dont really have an option of GOOD LOOKING alloys. Seen most of the alloys for this PCD and absolutely hate them.
So, Ive though of putting Ikon company alloys. Is that a good idea???
Or
If i dont get the Alloys iam looking for should i stick to Steel Rims 14".
But
Ikons dont have steel Rims in 14's so is it ok if i put Indigos rims???

Tires experts

Help.

Also should i wait for the Speed run to get over and then put them or run my New tires for the Speed Run??

How old shoud my News tires be when iam buying them as in Manufacturing(wrong spelling) date etc??

How do i see this in the tire?? Is there an indication???

Should i fill them with regular air or Nitrogen would help

Hmmmm i guess thats all.

1100D · 14th February 2008, 22:55

195 on the Ikon would foul with the wheel well internals. 185 is fine. But with 185/60 -R14 you have a lower rolling radius than the standard 175/65-14.

I have 185/65, which causes the speedo to under indicate.

Ikons do have 14" steel rims.

nitrous · 14th February 2008, 23:01

185/60/R14 or 185/65/R13 in decently soft compound from Yokohama or Michelin would be perfect.
Dont get this MRF/JK/Apollo stuff. Im tired of their rock-hard compounds.

binz · 14th February 2008, 23:42

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ture-1410.html
I driven his car and those tires are sweet,stuning grip for their size,..no tire noise.I dont know how they handle in the wet though.Great Vfm @Rs 3400 per tire.

Akshay1234 · 14th February 2008, 23:55

look at 185/60 r14. I think the best bet in that size would be potenza g3s. Pretty grippy and they last long. Also the ford rims look pretty nice.

iraghava · 14th February 2008, 23:57

Like 1100D said, 195's will foul so stick with 185/60 R14. And there are lots of nice options in them like Michelin PP2 or Yoko ES100 apart from others so take your pick.

S Pathak · 15th February 2008, 09:57

I use 185/60/14 GSD2. You may check my garage to view the rims, not all 108 pcd ones are bad.

danlalan · 15th February 2008, 21:52

OK so iam going to go for 185/60/r 14. Thats Decided.

Tube or Tubless???

If i dont get the Alloys iam looking for should i stick to Steel Rims 14" With Brand New tires???
Is it ok if i put Indigos rims???(same PCD)

Also should i wait for the Speed run to get over and then put them or run my New tires for the Speed Run??

How old shoud my News tires be when iam buying them as in Manufacturing(wrong spelling) date etc??

How do i see this in the tire?? Is there an indication???

Should i fill them with regular air or Nitrogen would help

Either Yokohamas Es100 or Potenza g3's , P6000's Pirelli's which ones..???

Absar · 23rd February 2008, 20:47

Any updates danlalan on what you've done for your tyres?

I'd recommend tubeless over tubed tyres. They're better and safer.

Sounds fine to fit in 14" rims from the indigo which offers the same PCD.

As for the age of tyres before purchasing, 6 months should be the maximum I guess.

On the inner side of the tyre the manufacturing date (month/year) will be shown. Seen it somewhere on another thread.

Filling in with regular air or nitrogen I'd say regular air because I do the same. Nitrogen has its advantages of being cooler etc. If doing Nitrogen, you should stick to Nitrogen, don't fill in Nitrogen and then later top-up with air. Top-up should be Nitrogen too.

Btw out of the the 3 tyres listed, I'd choose the Yokohamas ES100. Pirelli seems to be be catching up slowly.

cya
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TARUL · 23rd February 2008, 21:31

Hey didn't see this thread at all

.Anyway I can now say that I have decent amount of experience in upsizing tyres & rims for the ikon.Getting to the point go in for 185/60 because they fit perfectly & who said you don't get good looking rims for the ikon?search the market and you will find them.Try other brands like kumho,hankook etc.I got my hankook's for Rs 3200 per tyre & they are excellent.

danlalan · 23rd February 2008, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absar

Any updates danlalan on what you've done for your tyres?

I'd recommend tubeless over tubed tyres. They're better and safer.

Sounds fine to fit in 14" rims from the indigo which offers the same PCD.

As for the age of tyres before purchasing, 6 months should be the maximum I guess.

On the inner side of the tyre the manufacturing date (month/year) will be shown. Seen it somewhere on another thread.

Filling in with regular air or nitrogen I'd say regular air because I do the same. Nitrogen has its advantages of being cooler etc. If doing Nitrogen, you should stick to Nitrogen, don't fill in Nitrogen and then later top-up with air. Top-up should be Nitrogen too.

Btw out of the the 3 tyres listed, I'd choose the Yokohamas ES100. Pirelli seems to be be catching up slowly.

cya
A

Hey thanks alot... Well iam going to use the old s322's for the speed run and then will change. so thats next week.

Still looking for nice LOOKING alloys. Choosen my tires. ES100's. Paid for them too. Now just waiting for a good set of alloys.

TARUL · 23rd February 2008, 22:18

Hey are you going to be driving the ikon for the speed run??

danlalan · 23rd February 2008, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by TARUL

Hey are you going to be driving the ikon for the speed run??

Yes i am.

I know bad idea. Specially with the vtec's and baleno's etc in my category(Street-Stock). But I really dont care about the times and stuff. Its just for the experience.

TARUL · 23rd February 2008, 22:45

What's the bad idea in that?Go show them what the josh can do.

Absar · 26th February 2008, 20:26

Hey, good idea to change tyres after the speed run! All the best for it. Show them the raw torque of 130 NM this Zetec ROCAM offers. Should be great. Don't make mistakes during shifts.

cya
A

14th February 2008, 22:33	#1
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,636 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	New Tires for the ikon 1.6 Ive been running on S322's 175/70/R13 for 30000KMS now . And its time to change the tires since they've developed cracks in them due to age. I dont really drive much. Its just 8kms or so a day(After work drive). And that once in a Month trip to lonavala(high speed run 195kph or so). Looking for a good tire life. Decent comfort. Good handling. Also Looking for an upsize in tires and Rims. Tires: I would want to go in for a wider profile than what iam running right now. Was thinking of a 185 or a 195. Which is better. Tube or Tubless??? 185/60/r14 or 195/55/r14 or should i stick to the 13"s Have heard of these so far as good tires. Bridgestone Potenza G3's ( but hear they Squeak alot) Yokohama Es100 P6000's Pirelli's Dunlops but not sure which ones. Any idea about the Prices in Mumbai for these tires and the Profile iam looking for??? Rims/Alloys. Being 108 PCD(which matches with the Indigo and Ca) I dont really have an option of GOOD LOOKING alloys. Seen most of the alloys for this PCD and absolutely hate them. So, Ive though of putting Ikon company alloys. Is that a good idea??? Or If i dont get the Alloys iam looking for should i stick to Steel Rims 14". But Ikons dont have steel Rims in 14's so is it ok if i put Indigos rims??? Tires experts Help. Also should i wait for the Speed run to get over and then put them or run my New tires for the Speed Run?? How old shoud my News tires be when iam buying them as in Manufacturing(wrong spelling) date etc?? How do i see this in the tire?? Is there an indication??? Should i fill them with regular air or Nitrogen would help Hmmmm i guess thats all. Last edited by danlalan : 14th February 2008 at 22:39.
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14th February 2008, 22:55	#2
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,096 Times View My Garage	195 on the Ikon would foul with the wheel well internals. 185 is fine. But with 185/60 -R14 you have a lower rolling radius than the standard 175/65-14. I have 185/65, which causes the speedo to under indicate. Ikons do have 14" steel rims.
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14th February 2008, 23:01	#3
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	185/60/R14 or 185/65/R13 in decently soft compound from Yokohama or Michelin would be perfect. Dont get this MRF/JK/Apollo stuff. Im tired of their rock-hard compounds.
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14th February 2008, 23:42	#4
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ture-1410.html I driven his car and those tires are sweet,stuning grip for their size,..no tire noise.I dont know how they handle in the wet though.Great Vfm @Rs 3400 per tire. Last edited by binz : 14th February 2008 at 23:44.
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14th February 2008, 23:55	#5
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	look at 185/60 r14. I think the best bet in that size would be potenza g3s. Pretty grippy and they last long. Also the ford rims look pretty nice.
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14th February 2008, 23:57	#6
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Like 1100D said, 195's will foul so stick with 185/60 R14. And there are lots of nice options in them like Michelin PP2 or Yoko ES100 apart from others so take your pick.
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15th February 2008, 09:57	#7
S Pathak BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	I use 185/60/14 GSD2. You may check my garage to view the rims, not all 108 pcd ones are bad.
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15th February 2008, 21:52	#8
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,636 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	OK so iam going to go for 185/60/r 14. Thats Decided. Tube or Tubless??? If i dont get the Alloys iam looking for should i stick to Steel Rims 14" With Brand New tires??? Is it ok if i put Indigos rims???(same PCD) Also should i wait for the Speed run to get over and then put them or run my New tires for the Speed Run?? How old shoud my News tires be when iam buying them as in Manufacturing(wrong spelling) date etc?? How do i see this in the tire?? Is there an indication??? Should i fill them with regular air or Nitrogen would help Either Yokohamas Es100 or Potenza g3's , P6000's Pirelli's which ones..???
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23rd February 2008, 20:47	#9
Absar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madras Posts: 560 Thanked: 10 Times View My Garage	Any updates danlalan on what you've done for your tyres? I'd recommend tubeless over tubed tyres. They're better and safer. Sounds fine to fit in 14" rims from the indigo which offers the same PCD. As for the age of tyres before purchasing, 6 months should be the maximum I guess. On the inner side of the tyre the manufacturing date (month/year) will be shown. Seen it somewhere on another thread. Filling in with regular air or nitrogen I'd say regular air because I do the same. Nitrogen has its advantages of being cooler etc. If doing Nitrogen, you should stick to Nitrogen, don't fill in Nitrogen and then later top-up with air. Top-up should be Nitrogen too. Btw out of the the 3 tyres listed, I'd choose the Yokohamas ES100. Pirelli seems to be be catching up slowly. cya A
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23rd February 2008, 21:31	#10
TARUL BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 117 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Hey didn't see this thread at all.Anyway I can now say that I have decent amount of experience in upsizing tyres & rims for the ikon.Getting to the point go in for 185/60 because they fit perfectly & who said you don't get good looking rims for the ikon?search the market and you will find them.Try other brands like kumho,hankook etc.I got my hankook's for Rs 3200 per tyre & they are excellent.
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23rd February 2008, 22:18	#12
TARUL BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 117 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Hey are you going to be driving the ikon for the speed run??
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23rd February 2008, 22:45	#14
TARUL BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 117 Thanked: Once View My Garage	What's the bad idea in that?Go show them what the josh can do.
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26th February 2008, 20:26	#15
Absar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madras Posts: 560 Thanked: 10 Times View My Garage	Hey, good idea to change tyres after the speed run! All the best for it. Show them the raw torque of 130 NM this Zetec ROCAM offers. Should be great. Don't make mistakes during shifts. cya A
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