Confused: XM1+ OR PP OR GSD3 OR GIII

vrooooooom · 23rd May 2008, 23:29

I finally decided to change my tyres and rims of my Baleno. Decided to go for 14" considering the pot hole roads I would have to face everyday in Kolkata. But again I would give more emphasis on performance. Looking at all the tyres I am totally confused. Unfortunately I cant test drive with those tyres so have to rely on all your experiance

Options with prices quoted by dealers in Kolkata:
195/60/R14
Goodyear F1 GSD2 - 3200
Michelin PP - 4170
Michelin XM1+ - 4110
Apollo Accelere - 3400
Goodyear GSD3 (newly launched for 195/60/14- don't know at all how good is this one) - 4600
Bridgestone Potenza GIII - 3600

I thought of including Yokos but considering the fact that they dont have any setup in Kolkata I decided to go against it.
My requirement:
Performance - 75% (for my spirited driving)
Comfort - 25%
Should not affect the FE much
I just dont want to regret later

C'mmon guys help me out on this. Would really look for some inputs from Ishaan, rjstyles,supremeBaleno and anyone from the Baleno club.

shuvc · 24th May 2008, 00:33

Your budget seems flexible

4xGSD2 = Rs. 12800
4xGSD3 = Rs. 18400

Btw, who gave you the info on GSD3@14"? The Goodyear shop on VIP Rd told me last Saturday that they still come only in 15s.

From that list, the popular vote will probably be for the PPs.

razor4077 · 24th May 2008, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuvc

Btw, who gave you the info on GSD3@14"? The Goodyear shop on VIP Rd told me last Saturday that they still come only in 15s.

I got the news from Minku (of Indo Radial). This size was just launched by Goodyear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuvc

From that list, the popular vote will probably be for the PPs.

Yup, my vote would go there.

Akshay1234 · 24th May 2008, 12:06

stay away from the goodyears. since your requirement is performance the best choice would be pps and 2nd choice should be g3s.

binz · 24th May 2008, 12:15

195/60-14 on the baleno is great when you first geat them,then when you want to push your car more they start holding you back.

Might i humbly suggest 15"ers with any of the above mentioned tires or the s-drives,bfgs and others that start in 15".

Im saying this since you emphasise on performance.(Which all baleno owners do btw:P)

vrooooooom · 24th May 2008, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by binz

Might i humbly suggest 15"ers with any of the above mentioned tires or the s-drives,bfgs and others that start in 15".

Only issue with 15" is that the ride quality will suffer a lot. Some people say that if you have 15" you might need to change your shocks more often. Again if I travel a lot, I will have to take into consideration the width of the side walls also. So thought of choosing a optimum solution and hence opted for 195/60/R14. What say?

Akshay1234 · 24th May 2008, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrooooooom

Only issue with 15" is that the ride quality will suffer a lot. Some people say that if you have 15" you might need to change your shocks more often. Again if I travel a lot, I will have to take into consideration the width of the side walls also. So thought of choosing a optimum solution and hence opted for 195/60/R14. What say?

a couple of people are running on 15s so you can ask them. i know rjstyles is running on them with s-drives.

shuvc · 24th May 2008, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by binz

195/60-14 on the baleno is great when you first geat them,then when you want to push your car more they start holding you back.

Might i humbly suggest 15"ers with any of the above mentioned tires or the s-drives,bfgs and others that start in 15".

Im saying this since you emphasise on performance.(Which all baleno owners do btw:P)

Am at a loss here. Care to elaborate how, say, 195/55/15s would hold back less than 195/60/14?

It is true though that when I switched from 185/14s to 195/14s I immediately felt a slight lethargy getting off the block.

WasavaTyres · 24th May 2008, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay1234

stay away from the goodyears. since your requirement is performance the best choice would be pps and 2nd choice should be g3s.

Why the bias against goodyear ??

itzzme · 24th May 2008, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrooooooom

I finally decided to change my tyres and rims of my Baleno. Decided to go for 14" considering the pot hole roads I would have to face everyday in Kolkata. But again I would give more emphasis on performance. Looking at all the tyres I am totally confused. Unfortunately I cant test drive with those tyres so have to rely on all your experiance

Options with prices quoted by dealers in Kolkata:
195/60/R14
Goodyear F1 GSD2 - 3200
Michelin PP - 4170
Michelin XM1+ - 4110
Apollo Accelere - 3400
Goodyear GSD3 (newly launched for 195/60/14- don't know at all how good is this one) - 4600
Bridgestone Potenza GIII - 3600

I thought of including Yokos but considering the fact that they dont have any setup in Kolkata I decided to go against it.
My requirement:
Performance - 75% (for my spirited driving)
Comfort - 25%
Should not affect the FE much
I just dont want to regret later

C'mmon guys help me out on this. Would really look for some inputs from Ishaan, rjstyles,supremeBaleno and anyone from the Baleno club.

If potholes is actually a problem then you should to stick to 13" only.

But in 14" 195/60 R14 foolowing are the best options :
PP2
ES100
BFG
GIII
GY

One of frens told me YOKO is available in KOL.
For spirited driveing XM1 and acelere are NO-N0.

Akshay1234 · 24th May 2008, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasavaTyres

Why the bias against goodyear ??

90% of the reviews you read of them are bad.

shuvd · 24th May 2008, 19:46

Either PP2s or Yokos. AFIK, Minku is the Yokohama dealer now.

married2speed · 25th May 2008, 23:40

FYI- 195/60/14 PP2 is not available. Only PP1 is available.

2nd, go for PP1, you'll get everything you are looking for. Also, if you negotiate well, you can bring the price down to 4100 and also get the reebok sunglasses free with them.

iraghava · 26th May 2008, 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasavaTyres

Why the bias against goodyear ??

Because from most personal experiences (including mine) they've been nohting but below par.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuvd

AFIK, Minku is the Yokohama dealer now.

Yes, he is.

razor4077 · 26th May 2008, 12:32

I know Goodyear has a bad reputation on this forum, but there are quite a few people I know who have been satisfied with them. Some fellow Kolkata BHPians have F1 GSD2s on their cars, and they haven't complained. I have GA Plus tyres on my Santro and have been thoroughly impressed by them.
Some, like Ishan, have had bad experiences with Goodyears, so they have a right to criticize them. But I would humbly request others to base their advice on personal experience rather than on what they read about.
And no, I have no personal inclination towards Goodyear.

I haven't read any reviews on the F1 GSD3s. Has anyone used them? If so, what's the verdict?

23rd May 2008, 23:29	#1
vrooooooom BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 97 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Confused: XM1+ OR PP OR GSD3 OR GIII I finally decided to change my tyres and rims of my Baleno. Decided to go for 14" considering the pot hole roads I would have to face everyday in Kolkata. But again I would give more emphasis on performance. Looking at all the tyres I am totally confused. Unfortunately I cant test drive with those tyres so have to rely on all your experiance Options with prices quoted by dealers in Kolkata: 195/60/R14 Goodyear F1 GSD2 - 3200 Michelin PP - 4170 Michelin XM1+ - 4110 Apollo Accelere - 3400 Goodyear GSD3 (newly launched for 195/60/14- don't know at all how good is this one) - 4600 Bridgestone Potenza GIII - 3600 I thought of including Yokos but considering the fact that they dont have any setup in Kolkata I decided to go against it. My requirement: Performance - 75% (for my spirited driving) Comfort - 25% Should not affect the FE much I just dont want to regret later C'mmon guys help me out on this. Would really look for some inputs from Ishaan, rjstyles,supremeBaleno and anyone from the Baleno club.
	() Thanks

24th May 2008, 00:33	#2
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	Your budget seems flexible 4xGSD2 = Rs. 12800 4xGSD3 = Rs. 18400 Btw, who gave you the info on GSD3@14"? The Goodyear shop on VIP Rd told me last Saturday that they still come only in 15s. From that list, the popular vote will probably be for the PPs.
	() Thanks

24th May 2008, 12:06	#4
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,316 Times	stay away from the goodyears. since your requirement is performance the best choice would be pps and 2nd choice should be g3s.
	() Thanks

24th May 2008, 12:15	#5
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	195/60-14 on the baleno is great when you first geat them,then when you want to push your car more they start holding you back. Might i humbly suggest 15"ers with any of the above mentioned tires or the s-drives,bfgs and others that start in 15". Im saying this since you emphasise on performance.(Which all baleno owners do btw:P)
	() Thanks

24th May 2008, 19:46	#12
shuvd Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,081 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Either PP2s or Yokos. AFIK, Minku is the Yokohama dealer now.
	() Thanks

25th May 2008, 23:40	#13
married2speed BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: gurgaon Posts: 215 Thanked: 9 Times	FYI- 195/60/14 PP2 is not available. Only PP1 is available. 2nd, go for PP1, you'll get everything you are looking for. Also, if you negotiate well, you can bring the price down to 4100 and also get the reebok sunglasses free with them.
	() Thanks

26th May 2008, 12:32	#15
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	I know Goodyear has a bad reputation on this forum, but there are quite a few people I know who have been satisfied with them. Some fellow Kolkata BHPians have F1 GSD2s on their cars, and they haven't complained. I have GA Plus tyres on my Santro and have been thoroughly impressed by them. Some, like Ishan, have had bad experiences with Goodyears, so they have a right to criticize them. But I would humbly request others to base their advice on personal experience rather than on what they read about. And no, I have no personal inclination towards Goodyear. I haven't read any reviews on the F1 GSD3s. Has anyone used them? If so, what's the verdict?
	() Thanks