Hunter Wheel alignment in Bombay?

cyneverdie · 19th June 2008, 23:23

Self explanatory.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post870212

This reminded me , anyone in Mumbai still has a Hunter alignment & balancing machine - anybody?
cheers

Tire Tech Information - Alignment

A performance alignment calls for the manufacturer's maximum negative camber, maximum positive caster, and preferred toe settings. While remaining within the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations, these alignment settings will maximize tire performance.

PS : Never had 4 wheel allignment for the Swift but Hunter says :

Here's what we do:
For vehicles with non-adjustable rear suspensions

Angle readings are measured at all four wheels.
The steering wheel is centered.
Front wheels are referenced to rear thrust line and set to specifications.

What Everyone Should Know About Wheel Alignment

Nikhilb2008 · 20th June 2008, 11:07

My dad is the dealer of Hunter.

I'll find out where these machines are setup. He's busy right now.

cyneverdie · 20th June 2008, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

My dad is the dealer of Hunter.

I'll find out where these machines are setup. He's busy right now.

Wow ! Crazy man , would highly appreciate that , just to remind you I am in mumbai.
Thanks man

PS : Any thoughts on 4 wheel alignment for the swift anybody?

Nikhilb2008 · 20th June 2008, 23:17

CRAP!! Forgot to ask him!! Will give you details for sure tomorrow!!

Sahil · 23rd June 2008, 02:14

How often do you guys get your wheels aligned/balanced and rotated?and at what price approx?

Are there trusted places to get it done for the BMW? or should i do it from the showroom only rather than these hunter machine equipped places?

Have always got my cars alignment etc done at JC auto in andheri...any idea if they use Hunter?

bhp · 23rd June 2008, 16:36

JC is now shut in andheri...they only have a branch in dahisar now..even i got my cars balanced and aligned from them and they were the best around..but i know do these work at saifee santracruz

saifee does a lot of imports may be you can check with them once

tsk1979 · 23rd June 2008, 16:47

Tyre shoppe Noida charges around 100rs/alignment.
But they have another machine where they do 4 wheels alignment and charge 300rs/car
I presume its one of these more expensive machines?

iraghava · 23rd June 2008, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Tyre shoppe Noida charges around 100rs/alignment.
But they have another machine where they do 4 wheels alignment and charge 300rs/car
I presume its one of these more expensive machines?

I would think it would be a 3D Aligner. There is a shop in the Petrol Pump outside Great India Place that also has the same.

Technocrat · 23rd June 2008, 16:57

@sahil: I usually get it done approx at every 5000 kms & I belive thats what is recommended.

Yeah it takes around 150 bucks for wheel alignment, showroom costs more.

tsk1979 · 23rd June 2008, 16:58

Now whats this 3D aligner thingy?

cyneverdie · 24th June 2008, 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Now whats this 3D aligner thingy?

No offense but as a man with 7000 + posts asking what is this 3d aligner thingy? , is a little scary to me man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahil

How often do you guys get your wheels aligned/balanced and rotated?and at what price approx?

Are there trusted places to get it done for the BMW? or should i do it from the showroom only rather than these hunter machine equipped places?

Hey man I get it done whenever needed , with my low budget cars and my driving style , I occasionally get it done even 700 km s after a perfect aligning and balancing job , but at least once in 1500 km , bridgestone recommend alignment and balancing every 2500 km at least .
It costs me 700 Rs at all the places I have been to.

Dealers should do a good job , but i have been let down and if there is a hunter system in town , would highly recommend it .

We will find out about hunter in mumbai soon.

Nikhilb2008 · 24th June 2008, 10:29

Sorry for the delay. Blame my party attitude and the weekend in between.

.AUTOGRAPHS CARS (I)PVT LTD. (DSP 600)
1-CARPORATE CENTRE.
ANDHERI-KURLA ROAD.
ANDHERI.
CONTACT PERSON--MR RUPESH RELE.
CELL NO--9324252105.

.JMD AUTOMOBILES. (DSP 600)
BANUP-SONAPUR ROAD.
OPP TO SHAMAL CARS.
BANDUP(WEST).
CONTACT PERSON--MR DEE.
CELL NO--9867551873.

.SHREYANS AUTOMOBILES PVT LTD. (HAWKEYE 401)
MANJEET COMPOUND.MANJEET LANE.
OPP DUKES COMPANY.
W.T.PATIL MARG.
CHEMBUR.
CONTACT PERSON--MR CHINMAY.
CELL NO--9819199022.

DSP 600 is very similar to hawkeye. Hawkeye is the latest machine from Hunter. DSP 600 was the highest end machine from Hunter until december.

Hawkeye was introduced into India at the same time as the rest of the world. We revealed it properly at the Auto Expo.

About 3D wheel alignment, I will force my dad to sit and type out a reply tonight. Pukka.

Nikhilb2008 · 24th June 2008, 11:02

I'll try my best according to what my dad told me.

In 2-D wheel alignment machines, you have this particular apparatus you fix to the wheel. It's quite bulky and inside this is a lot of electronics. This is connected to the other devices on other wheels using wires (or in later models, Infra Red). It is then connected to the computer(which runs the software) by wires again.

Hunter Wheel alignment in Bombay?-prod_image_643.jpg

This device is easily damaged and most of the time it will not give accurate readings as they would have been mishandled by the technicians. You can never realise how wroing the readings are until you test it. To get back the accuracy, you need to recalibrate the equipment which is very cumbersome.

Even regular wheel alignment is not as simple and easy to perform. It can be accurate, only if the machine has been recently recalibrated and the equipment is handled with the utmost care. The sensors in this device shouldnt be damaged at all. Also, this has limitations.

So, anyway, the sensors and electronics in the device attached to the wheel capture position of wheel, etc and transfer this data to the computer where the software calculates and gives you the final readings. Castor, camber, Toe, etc...

The main limitation of this is that you can measure data only in 2 dimensions and so, whatever castor, camber, toe readings you get are not exact. The alignment may be done satisfactorily but it isnt exact.

3D wheel aligners are different.

There is only a plastic target mounted on the wheel. This plastic target has one reflective side. These targets are mounted on all 4 wheels. There are cameras (4 or 8 depending on the model and the company) which keep taking photographs of the targets. This is why the face of the target facing upwards has these reflective stickers.

Hunter Wheel alignment in Bombay?-dsc00367.jpg

Hunter Wheel alignment in Bombay?-dsp600.jpg

This camera can measure in 3D. It is like a very slow framerate video camera. So, when you rotate the steering wheel(as is done in every wheel alignment procedure), the camera continues to take pics of the targets at different angles and positions.

Based on the photos, the software calculates the castor, camber, toe. This way, the final readings are got based on measurements in 3 dimensions.

Also, the camera is mounted pretty high and is not easy to damage. It is out of harm's way.

cyneverdie · 24th June 2008, 23:09

Thank you man , need their "many patented adjustment, productivity and merchandising features that speed and simplify the alignment process."

RedMM340 · 24th June 2008, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Sorry for the delay. Blame my party attitude and the weekend in between.

.AUTOGRAPHS CARS (I)PVT LTD. (DSP 600)
1-CARPORATE CENTRE.
ANDHERI-KURLA ROAD.
ANDHERI.
CONTACT PERSON--MR RUPESH RELE.
CELL NO--9324252105.

.JMD AUTOMOBILES. (DSP 600)
BANUP-SONAPUR ROAD.
OPP TO SHAMAL CARS.
BANDUP(WEST).
CONTACT PERSON--MR DEE.
CELL NO--9867551873.

.SHREYANS AUTOMOBILES PVT LTD. (HAWKEYE 401)
MANJEET COMPOUND.MANJEET LANE.
OPP DUKES COMPANY.
W.T.PATIL MARG.
CHEMBUR.
CONTACT PERSON--MR CHINMAY.
CELL NO--9819199022.

DSP 600 is very similar to hawkeye. Hawkeye is the latest machine from Hunter. DSP 600 was the highest end machine from Hunter until december.

Hawkeye was introduced into India at the same time as the rest of the world. We revealed it properly at the Auto Expo.

About 3D wheel alignment, I will force my dad to sit and type out a reply tonight. Pukka.

How about an address or two in Delhi / NCR ?
Thanks,

19th June 2008, 23:23	#1
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	Hunter Wheel alignment in Bombay? Self explanatory. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post870212 This reminded me , anyone in Mumbai still has a Hunter alignment & balancing machine - anybody? cheers Tire Tech Information - Alignment A performance alignment calls for the manufacturer's maximum negative camber, maximum positive caster, and preferred toe settings. While remaining within the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations, these alignment settings will maximize tire performance. PS : Never had 4 wheel allignment for the Swift but Hunter says : Here's what we do: For vehicles with non-adjustable rear suspensions Angle readings are measured at all four wheels. The steering wheel is centered. Front wheels are referenced to rear thrust line and set to specifications. What Everyone Should Know About Wheel Alignment Last edited by cyneverdie : 19th June 2008 at 23:26.
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20th June 2008, 11:07	#2
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,136 Times	My dad is the dealer of Hunter. I'll find out where these machines are setup. He's busy right now.
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20th June 2008, 23:17	#4
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,136 Times	CRAP!! Forgot to ask him!! Will give you details for sure tomorrow!!
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23rd June 2008, 02:14	#5
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,605 Times	How often do you guys get your wheels aligned/balanced and rotated?and at what price approx? Are there trusted places to get it done for the BMW? or should i do it from the showroom only rather than these hunter machine equipped places? Have always got my cars alignment etc done at JC auto in andheri...any idea if they use Hunter?
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23rd June 2008, 16:36	#6
bhp BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: lokhandwala mumbai Posts: 840 Thanked: 168 Times View My Garage	JC is now shut in andheri...they only have a branch in dahisar now..even i got my cars balanced and aligned from them and they were the best around..but i know do these work at saifee santracruz saifee does a lot of imports may be you can check with them once
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23rd June 2008, 16:47	#7
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,823 Times View My Garage	Tyre shoppe Noida charges around 100rs/alignment. But they have another machine where they do 4 wheels alignment and charge 300rs/car I presume its one of these more expensive machines?
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23rd June 2008, 16:57	#9
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	@sahil: I usually get it done approx at every 5000 kms & I belive thats what is recommended. Yeah it takes around 150 bucks for wheel alignment, showroom costs more.
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23rd June 2008, 16:58	#10
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,823 Times View My Garage	Now whats this 3D aligner thingy?
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24th June 2008, 10:29	#12
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,136 Times	Sorry for the delay. Blame my party attitude and the weekend in between. .AUTOGRAPHS CARS (I)PVT LTD. (DSP 600) 1-CARPORATE CENTRE. ANDHERI-KURLA ROAD. ANDHERI. CONTACT PERSON--MR RUPESH RELE. CELL NO--9324252105. .JMD AUTOMOBILES. (DSP 600) BANUP-SONAPUR ROAD. OPP TO SHAMAL CARS. BANDUP(WEST). CONTACT PERSON--MR DEE. CELL NO--9867551873. .SHREYANS AUTOMOBILES PVT LTD. (HAWKEYE 401) MANJEET COMPOUND.MANJEET LANE. OPP DUKES COMPANY. W.T.PATIL MARG. CHEMBUR. CONTACT PERSON--MR CHINMAY. CELL NO--9819199022. DSP 600 is very similar to hawkeye. Hawkeye is the latest machine from Hunter. DSP 600 was the highest end machine from Hunter until december. Hawkeye was introduced into India at the same time as the rest of the world. We revealed it properly at the Auto Expo. About 3D wheel alignment, I will force my dad to sit and type out a reply tonight. Pukka.
	() Thanks

24th June 2008, 11:02	#13
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,136 Times	I'll try my best according to what my dad told me. In 2-D wheel alignment machines, you have this particular apparatus you fix to the wheel. It's quite bulky and inside this is a lot of electronics. This is connected to the other devices on other wheels using wires (or in later models, Infra Red). It is then connected to the computer(which runs the software) by wires again. This device is easily damaged and most of the time it will not give accurate readings as they would have been mishandled by the technicians. You can never realise how wroing the readings are until you test it. To get back the accuracy, you need to recalibrate the equipment which is very cumbersome. Even regular wheel alignment is not as simple and easy to perform. It can be accurate, only if the machine has been recently recalibrated and the equipment is handled with the utmost care. The sensors in this device shouldnt be damaged at all. Also, this has limitations. So, anyway, the sensors and electronics in the device attached to the wheel capture position of wheel, etc and transfer this data to the computer where the software calculates and gives you the final readings. Castor, camber, Toe, etc... The main limitation of this is that you can measure data only in 2 dimensions and so, whatever castor, camber, toe readings you get are not exact. The alignment may be done satisfactorily but it isnt exact. 3D wheel aligners are different. There is only a plastic target mounted on the wheel. This plastic target has one reflective side. These targets are mounted on all 4 wheels. There are cameras (4 or 8 depending on the model and the company) which keep taking photographs of the targets. This is why the face of the target facing upwards has these reflective stickers. This camera can measure in 3D. It is like a very slow framerate video camera. So, when you rotate the steering wheel(as is done in every wheel alignment procedure), the camera continues to take pics of the targets at different angles and positions. Based on the photos, the software calculates the castor, camber, toe. This way, the final readings are got based on measurements in 3 dimensions. Also, the camera is mounted pretty high and is not easy to damage. It is out of harm's way.
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24th June 2008, 23:09	#14
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	Thank you man , need their "many patented adjustment, productivity and merchandising features that speed and simplify the alignment process."
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