Upsizing tyres on Palio MJD without alloys?

who_meee · 31st August 2008, 00:18

Hi,

I'm taking delivery of a new Palio MJD tomorrow. Looking to change my stock tyres to the Michelin XM1+ that's been recommended on these forums a number of times, I was told that if I'm to upsize (MJD stock is 165/80 R13) to R14, I will need to buy alloys as well - as you cannot buy 14" steel rims that 'fit the palio' (?). I'm a novice at this, but the sales guy mentioned that the fact that the palio has a 98mm PCD has something to do with this as well.

Can the experts on this forum pls. clarify? Can I upsize my tyres without alloys? Can anybody recommend a good shop in Bangalore?

/vv

trrk · 31st August 2008, 12:40

Hi who_meee,

> palio has a 98mm PCD has something to do with this as well.

Very true. Almost impossible to find 14 inch rims with 98 PCD.

> Can I upsize my tyres without alloys?

Afraid not! You could try bigger tyres in the 13 inch range though!

finneyp · 31st August 2008, 13:22

Congrats pal on your Palio MJD!

You can retain your 13" steel rims & upsize your tires to 185/70 R13.
Michelin XM1 (not XM1+) is available for this size.

rider60 · 31st August 2008, 13:33

dudes dint the palio come with 14" steel rims? that was 98pcd too, so "who meee" you should look at buying those from spares and buy bigger tyres. on the 13" rims you will not find decent up sizes for the beast.

EDIT:the above would be the most cost effective way but there are quiet a few alloy brands with 98pcd. check aura alloys site has one, and there are other brands like league alloys, neo alloys and the likes who have alloys in that pcd check with local tyre-alloy wheels shops for the same you will find a handful of choices.

.:: Aura - High Performance Alloy Wheels ::.

thats one model from aura.

and the other possible tyre upsizes should be 185/65-R14 (0% error) or 185/70-R14 (has +3% error) or 195/60-R14 (has -1% error) still suitable.

with 13" rims the good up sizes are 185/70-R13 (has -1% error) or 185/75-R13 (has +2% error) all these size of tyres are suitable.

who mee this is the site that calculates the tyre up sizes that are suitable to your stock ones, use it to calculate
Tire Calculator

the error should be + or - 2.5% or max may be 3% not more. and they have also mentioned the rim width like say 13X5J alloys where the 13 is the diameter of the wheel and 5J is the width of the wheel here 5J is the 5" width.

that site will guide you through the min and max amount of width of the rim/wheel suitable for the tyre size. now happy up sizing.

31st August 2008, 00:18	#1
who_meee Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11 Thanked: 0 Times	Upsizing tyres on Palio MJD without alloys? Hi, I'm taking delivery of a new Palio MJD tomorrow. Looking to change my stock tyres to the Michelin XM1+ that's been recommended on these forums a number of times, I was told that if I'm to upsize (MJD stock is 165/80 R13) to R14, I will need to buy alloys as well - as you cannot buy 14" steel rims that 'fit the palio' (?). I'm a novice at this, but the sales guy mentioned that the fact that the palio has a 98mm PCD has something to do with this as well. Can the experts on this forum pls. clarify? Can I upsize my tyres without alloys? Can anybody recommend a good shop in Bangalore? /vv
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31st August 2008, 12:40	#2
trrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 2,114 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Hi who_meee, > palio has a 98mm PCD has something to do with this as well. Very true. Almost impossible to find 14 inch rims with 98 PCD. > Can I upsize my tyres without alloys? Afraid not! You could try bigger tyres in the 13 inch range though!
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31st August 2008, 13:22	#3
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Congrats pal on your Palio MJD! You can retain your 13" steel rims & upsize your tires to 185/70 R13. Michelin XM1 (not XM1+) is available for this size.
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31st August 2008, 13:33	#4
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	dudes dint the palio come with 14" steel rims? that was 98pcd too, so "who meee" you should look at buying those from spares and buy bigger tyres. on the 13" rims you will not find decent up sizes for the beast. EDIT:the above would be the most cost effective way but there are quiet a few alloy brands with 98pcd. check aura alloys site has one, and there are other brands like league alloys, neo alloys and the likes who have alloys in that pcd check with local tyre-alloy wheels shops for the same you will find a handful of choices. .:: Aura - High Performance Alloy Wheels ::. thats one model from aura. and the other possible tyre upsizes should be 185/65-R14 (0% error) or 185/70-R14 (has +3% error) or 195/60-R14 (has -1% error) still suitable. with 13" rims the good up sizes are 185/70-R13 (has -1% error) or 185/75-R13 (has +2% error) all these size of tyres are suitable. who mee this is the site that calculates the tyre up sizes that are suitable to your stock ones, use it to calculate Tire Calculator the error should be + or - 2.5% or max may be 3% not more. and they have also mentioned the rim width like say 13X5J alloys where the 13 is the diameter of the wheel and 5J is the width of the wheel here 5J is the 5" width. that site will guide you through the min and max amount of width of the rim/wheel suitable for the tyre size. now happy up sizing. Last edited by rider60 : 31st August 2008 at 13:51.
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