500Km with a Tubeless Tyre puncture - Had no Clue!

akshay4587 · 19th November 2008, 21:53

when i threw my bike's tubeless tyre for a new one it had like 12-13 nails in it

. i was using slime in the tyre so it helped for sure.
so i dont think these nails are a cause for major trouble in case they are not spotted

phamilyman · 19th November 2008, 23:08

I bought the puncture kit for 100 bucks. Now where can I get the darned high quality strips in gaon?

Eddy · 19th November 2008, 23:35

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Originally Posted by gd1418

This is very interesting. Where do you drive to get a puncture every fortnight in a place like Delhi?

Sir, out of my 25 km commute to office, 24.5 kms is a beautiful stretch of Dwarka and the Expressway. However, the last 500 m to my office is an off-road trek that my poor JK tyres cannot handle. Add to it the construction of a mall and an IT park going on next to my office and what results is total mayhem.

And thats not all. I find a nail in my tyre every fortnight and it has been accompanied by the opening of two or three puncture repair khokhas on that 500m stretch. I am sure that there is some mischief going on there. Hence, I never get my punture repaired from these khokhas, instead prefer driving and inflating tyres twice a week and getting reapirs done on weekends.

Eddy · 19th November 2008, 23:37

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

I bought the puncture kit for 100 bucks. Now where can I get the darned high quality strips in gaon?

Trust me, you will never use the kit unless you are REALLY stranded. Its much easier to get it done from outside.

Also a mechanic once told me that the strips come in packs of ten and once opened, have a limited shelf life.

gd1418 · 20th November 2008, 09:05

That is some solace, huh? Now this shelf life business is worrying. Any further corroborating statements?

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Originally Posted by Eddy

Trust me, you will never use the kit unless you are REALLY stranded. Its much easier to get it done from outside.

Also a mechanic once told me that the strips come in packs of ten and once opened, have a limited shelf life.

WasavaTyres · 20th November 2008, 11:33

I think the shelf-life thing has more to do with the adhesive around the sticks getting dry. But as long as you keep it between the two sheets of plastic it usually ships with ,and not exposed to air I don't think it's an issue.

Eddy · 20th November 2008, 11:39

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Originally Posted by WasavaTyres

I think the shelf-life thing has more to do with the adhesive around the sticks getting dry. But as long as you keep it between the two sheets of plastic it usually ships with ,and not exposed to air I don't think it's an issue.

Yep, the strips getting dry is the cause of them becoming useless.

tanwaramit · 3rd January 2009, 12:46

This further resolves to my attention to move to tubeless tyres on an alloy wheel...

Nice eye opening post (for me

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teknophobia · 4th January 2009, 11:54

I think I need to get my front tyres checked, both keep losing about 2-3 PSI every fortnight, the rear ones haven't lost any pressure in over two months, I maintain 34 psi for the front wheels and 26 for the rear.

diabloo · 4th January 2009, 12:09

Thats 75 per strip.

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Originally Posted by swift8847

Paid about Rs 450 for the kit. 6 strips included i.e 6 punctures can be repaired.

Cost of repair = cost of strip + cost of labour.

When strip itself costs 75, how can total cost of repair be 40?

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Originally Posted by bhp1

I recently had 2 punctures, which cost me rs.40 each to repair.

goandude · 4th January 2009, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Sudipto-S-Team

If you see repeated unusual drop in pressure in one, it means there is an embedded nail.

Or slow leak around the nozzle

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Originally Posted by d_himan

no "kut kut", nothing at all! Well, the 100 bucks was worth the effort - the maruti servicing guys had rotated my spare 165/80 which was lying in the boot and mixed em up with my 185/70s. So I got a proper tyre rotation + repair done.

pl do NOT mix tyres of different size. Therefore you got a improper rotation done. keep the 165/80 back in the boot

d_himan · 4th January 2009, 20:59

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Originally Posted by goandude

pl do NOT mix tyres of different size. Therefore you got a improper rotation done. keep the 165/80 back in the boot

M/S Sai Service, Andheri, did the same during my Swift's 20k servicing. I had retained the 165/80 in the boot since I bought only 4 Michelins.

My mistake was that I collected the car at 8:30 pm and didn't check the tyres carefully.

sj_koova · 4th January 2009, 21:16

Yesterday I was at Nikhil's shop for my car's wheel rotation, balancing and alignment etc.
I was surprised to see two of my Michelin PP2 tyres had long nails pierced into them. Still the tyres maintained enough pressure.

One of the nail head (a 2 inch screw in fact) was so well polished making it evident that I was running with that nails for past few months.

The last time I filled air was almost two months back, but still the tyre pressure was at 26. I usually keep 28/29.
Long live tubeless tyres and Michelin.

nishantgandhi · 5th January 2009, 10:57

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Originally Posted by goandude

Or slow leak around the nozzle

Yes. I faced the same problem and was unable to detect, until I figured that the nozzle itself was leaking

Quote:

Originally Posted by d_himan

M/S Sai Service, Andheri, did the same during my Swift's 20k servicing. I had retained the 165/80 in the boot since I bought only 4 Michelins.

My mistake was that I collected the car at 8:30 pm and didn't check the tyres carefully.

Ah, the infamous Sai Service rears its ugly head again!

Dhanu@DJ · 27th January 2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by sj_koova

Yesterday I was at Nikhil's shop for my car's wheel rotation, balancing and alignment etc.
I was surprised to see two of my Michelin PP2 tyres had long nails pierced into them. Still the tyres maintained enough pressure.

One of the nail head (a 2 inch screw in fact) was so well polished making it evident that I was running with that nails for past few months.

The last time I filled air was almost two months back, but still the tyre pressure was at 26. I usually keep 28/29.
Long live tubeless tyres and Michelin.

I had a similar experience with my left back wheel. I dint even know when the puncture could have happened. When i realized there is a nail i could see the nails head nicely polished. The nail head was between thread grooves so no noise either. Finally I realized it when i was trying to reverse it on to a sharp foot path stone. The nail was almost 2 inches and had bent towards the side wall and had the side wall scrubbed off for about half inch by few mm's. The air pressure had dropped by about 5-6 psi.

To top it i wont be checking tyre pressures that often as i have them Nitro inflated. The tyre guys asked me to get the nitro top up done once in 4-5 months unless there is a pressure drop. Finally i have to buy a new tyre as the repair guy said even the repair would leave a bubble on the tyre.

So now for the all the tyre gurus

With Nitro Fill how often should i be getting the tyre pressure checked?
What's the indication of having a puncture coz of a nail or having a nail on a tubeless?
Can i get the nitro filled tyres pressure checked by the ordinary air fill?

19th November 2008, 21:53	#16
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,151 Thanked: 4,525 Times View My Garage	when i threw my bike's tubeless tyre for a new one it had like 12-13 nails in it. i was using slime in the tyre so it helped for sure. so i dont think these nails are a cause for major trouble in case they are not spotted Last edited by akshay4587 : 19th November 2008 at 21:59.
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19th November 2008, 23:08	#17
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	I bought the puncture kit for 100 bucks. Now where can I get the darned high quality strips in gaon?
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20th November 2008, 11:33	#21
WasavaTyres BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indore Posts: 816 Thanked: 450 Times View My Garage	I think the shelf-life thing has more to do with the adhesive around the sticks getting dry. But as long as you keep it between the two sheets of plastic it usually ships with ,and not exposed to air I don't think it's an issue.
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3rd January 2009, 12:46	#23
tanwaramit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dilwalon ki Dilli Posts: 1,930 Thanked: 497 Times	This further resolves to my attention to move to tubeless tyres on an alloy wheel... Nice eye opening post (for me )
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4th January 2009, 11:54	#24
teknophobia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: WB/MH Posts: 385 Thanked: 121 Times	I think I need to get my front tyres checked, both keep losing about 2-3 PSI every fortnight, the rear ones haven't lost any pressure in over two months, I maintain 34 psi for the front wheels and 26 for the rear.
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4th January 2009, 21:16	#28
sj_koova BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 673 Thanked: 620 Times View My Garage	Yesterday I was at Nikhil's shop for my car's wheel rotation, balancing and alignment etc. I was surprised to see two of my Michelin PP2 tyres had long nails pierced into them. Still the tyres maintained enough pressure. One of the nail head (a 2 inch screw in fact) was so well polished making it evident that I was running with that nails for past few months. The last time I filled air was almost two months back, but still the tyre pressure was at 26. I usually keep 28/29. Long live tubeless tyres and Michelin.
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