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Originally Posted by fighterace Passenger car tyres can be reliably retreaded as long as the carcass is in a good shape. The safety and ride comfort is a function of the quality control of the manufacturing processes, be it retreaded tyres or new ones. The biggest issue is that by the time the tread wears out for most private cars, the tyres are already too old and dry rotted.
As for recycling of tyres- and footwear for that matter- it is just a hogwash. They just end up in landfills.
My experience so far tells me that a properly done retread is much better than a bald tyre or a cheap Chinese tyre, or even a JK tyre. |
Old thread (about tread) here and don't recall if I may have replied years ago, but seems like some recent interest.
Well, SOME tyres really do get recycled... my high-school running track was paved with shredded tyre bits, as are some of the running / football fields I've seen in Aizawl, Mizoram. And being that kabbadis collect them and (apparent, mysterious) "recyclers" up here actually do buy them and drive off with truckloads of them, vs. seeing them turning up at our landfill/incinerator here makes me suspect SOMETHING is being done with some of them, if not all. True that worldwide they have long posed a serious disposal problem and in some cases even fire hazard where mountains of them have accumulated.
Other than that, fully agreed... besides the "processes" themselves, also a function of the quality (and thus cost) of basic raw materials.
This appears to be one of those realms where it is easy to paint with excessively broad strokes and to make emotionally-driven absolutist statements, some based on a singular personal experience, hearsay, outdated previous-gen tech, gut-feelings, etc
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In my own experience:
1. I live in a place here where a huge number of neighbors and other locals are running retreads incl. the hospital's continually overloaded oxygen-supply pickup... I interact with drivers, mechanics, puncture-wallahs very regularly and honestly have rarely if ever heard a complaint re: retreads (much less rethreads). And that with so many Sumo's and Traveller vans containing a dozen or more tourists overspeeding up (or more terrifyingly down) cold, winding, often broken roads up to Rohtang Pass, Kaza, Ladakh, etc... From what I see here, I'd say paragliding injures/maims far more people up here than retreads do.
2. Once had a pair of racing retreads on the front of my modded 350-hp (RWD) Oldsmobile... they were not even fresh retreads, and had been put on older Goodyear Eagle GT 215/65-15 street-tyre carcasses, taken from a guy who used to run them, like many others, on his V-8 powered Camaro on serious high-speed road-racing courses like Watkin's Glen, etc... Needless to say I had no problems with them, even driving totally, insanely crazy back in those days. I mean like doing 150+ at points and full-on power-drifting on public roads and etc... (yep, that WAS me)... No horrifying "wobbling" or skidding, they stopped on a dime, were stellar in terms of road-holding and grip, and as on the track, in my street use the sidewalls never disintegrated or blew out. I never even had to balance them, iirc.
3. Have seen rave reviews of tyres supplied by another U.S. company who specializes in superior retread compounds for offroading. People love 'em - and that's in highly demanding, rough use of a certain kind. Nobody seems worried about their sidewalls btw., despite their being up against rocks and abraded all the time... In fact, I think this outfit re-coats/bonds the sidewalls, as well, though the cording/belting structure would of course be original re-used.
4. One of the front tyres on our Marshal is an OEM Bridgestone retread so perfectly done that I didn't know it till later when I saw the "RETREADED" stamped on the sidewall. Actually no visible seam, it's amazing. There are OEM retreading programs and supplied retreads that use pretty much the same rubber as their new tyres do. That's abroad and here in India as well.
5. In short, all retreads are not created equal, and as usual, you generally get what you pay for. That said, done right with good materials, they can be a solid, safe option.
Disclaimer: Not recommending anyone get it done without some prior investigation/ scrutiny / assessment in one's particular context.
Btw I used to work in tyre shops in my college days... Retreads for passenger cars were gone by then and yes, you did used to see thrown treads from trucks littering the shoulders of Interstate highways...
...But that was then and this is now...
...and those were treads, and we're talking about (re)treads, and we're writing all this in a (long) thread.
Just to be clear.
-Eric