How do you check if tyres are Original Make.

gemithomas · 22nd March 2009, 19:19

One of my friends today saw my Yokos and asked me where i bought it from. He told me that the shop i got it from is famous for selling "seconds". Are there really "seconds" in tyres considering their safety. I've heard of textiles and some equipments having "seconds" based on the quality checks but will there be tyres too like this.

Is there any way to check if our tyres are really original or whether they are seconds?

Nikhilb2008 · 22nd March 2009, 19:26

There are lot of tyres which are of dubious quality. They are imported by dealers and supplied to the open market for a much much lesser price than the company itself. So, there are a lot of people who make a killing out of these tyres. That is why, the most important thing is to buy from a reputed dealer. Someone who is able to give you a very low price may be selling one of thesr tyres.

lancer123 · 22nd March 2009, 21:56

yes there is lot of grey market stuff or little used tyres sold at lesser price. best way to get genuine tyres is to buy them from company authorized & reputed dealers & for Bridgestone & Michelin,check hologram on the tyre.

WasavaTyres · 23rd March 2009, 12:49

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Originally Posted by lancer123

check hologram on the tyre.

Not all brands have holograms.

The price for the grey market tyres (in reputed brands,read michelin/yokohama) in most cases is not because they are of dubious quality, but b'coz they are imported by dealers by underinvoicing the value to avoid high custom duties. In turn resulting in lesser cost price.Big brands do not push thier quality control rejected tyres into the market,they are destroyed at the plant end itself. But you will find 'seconds' tyres in brands like MRF and Ceat (mostly nylon tyres) where they mask out a particular letter on the tire to let the customer know it's a 'company seconds' tyre. i.e M of MRf would be buffed out.

Nikhilb2008 · 23rd March 2009, 13:25

I've seen dubious Nankangs. It had the serial number blacked out. Also seen some similar Neutons.

iraghava · 23rd March 2009, 13:32

Both are grey market products in the first place anyway.

esteem_lover · 23rd March 2009, 13:57

I had MR in my 118 long back. Obviously the F was blacked out.

Nikhilb2008 · 23rd March 2009, 13:58

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Originally Posted by iraghava

Both are grey market products in the first place anyway.

I'm aware of that. Just wanted to convey that if someone has doubts, then checking the serial number is one of the ways to confirm.

WasavaTyres · 23rd March 2009, 16:24

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Originally Posted by iraghava

Both are grey market products in the first place anyway.

Guruji, Nankangs are being imported into India by jain enterprises of Ludhiana I guess. And he even offers a bill and 3 years / 50 % tread unconditional warranty akin to apollo & JK. I'm not trying to advocate the brand,just asking you if it classifies as grey

iraghava · 23rd March 2009, 23:35

Indranil JI,

that's a bit of a grey area but from my limited experience I would treat a product as being "Officially" available when the company itself has a presence in the country & the warranty/guarantee is provided by the manufacturer rather then the Importer/Distributor.

If we apply the above logic to the existing dynamics, both Maxxis & Nankang do not qualify.

But, again I'm totally open for correction on this.

lancer123 · 24th March 2009, 20:09

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Originally Posted by WasavaTyres

Not all brands have holograms.

I did mention...Hologram in case of Bridgestone and Michelin only

22nd March 2009, 19:19	#1
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	How do you check if tyres are Original Make. One of my friends today saw my Yokos and asked me where i bought it from. He told me that the shop i got it from is famous for selling "seconds". Are there really "seconds" in tyres considering their safety. I've heard of textiles and some equipments having "seconds" based on the quality checks but will there be tyres too like this. Is there any way to check if our tyres are really original or whether they are seconds?
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22nd March 2009, 19:26	#2
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	There are lot of tyres which are of dubious quality. They are imported by dealers and supplied to the open market for a much much lesser price than the company itself. So, there are a lot of people who make a killing out of these tyres. That is why, the most important thing is to buy from a reputed dealer. Someone who is able to give you a very low price may be selling one of thesr tyres.
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22nd March 2009, 21:56	#3
lancer123 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: chandigarh Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	yes there is lot of grey market stuff or little used tyres sold at lesser price. best way to get genuine tyres is to buy them from company authorized & reputed dealers & for Bridgestone & Michelin,check hologram on the tyre.
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23rd March 2009, 13:25	#5
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	I've seen dubious Nankangs. It had the serial number blacked out. Also seen some similar Neutons.
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23rd March 2009, 13:32	#6
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Both are grey market products in the first place anyway.
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esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	I had MR in my 118 long back. Obviously the F was blacked out.
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23rd March 2009, 23:35	#10
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Indranil JI, that's a bit of a grey area but from my limited experience I would treat a product as being "Officially" available when the company itself has a presence in the country & the warranty/guarantee is provided by the manufacturer rather then the Importer/Distributor. If we apply the above logic to the existing dynamics, both Maxxis & Nankang do not qualify. But, again I'm totally open for correction on this.
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