[ms001]

Originally Posted by sumobom4

@ms001: Goodyear? Are those good? I am asking because I have Goodyear GT3s as stock and they are frankly, useless!

yep they are good tyres check this thread

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ble-india.html

[sumobom4]

Well, I finished the purchase and the swap today. Tried hard to get the Conti CPC2s as recommended by Nikhil. However, they are not available anywhere in South Bombay. I even called up a couple of people in Pune but they too didn't have it. The Conti tyre stocks are expected towards the end of April with some ISI marking. I couldn't wait that long as I have quite a few expressway runs planned in this month and my current tyres were beginning to feel like a death warrant!

So, I finally got Yoko ES100s from Pal Tyres on Lamington Road near Apsara Cinema. He had the best price of all for these ones in particular. Got the 195/60 R15s, as recommended by Nikhil. Cost me Rs. 4400 per tyre. Got 4 and kept the best of the stock ones as a spare, as the Yokos were unidirectional ones. Got back just Rs. 150 per tyre for my old GT3s (19k km running). Why ES100s? Because I have a friend who's shod his Punto with these tyres and he has been running them without problems for some 8k km so far. I felt that was the best compromise given the lack of the Conti option.

Travelled to the suburbs in the evening on the WE highway and loved the feel so far. A LOT smoother than the GT3s. Couldn't test the handling, as there was hardly any cornering to be done. That will probably be tested during the expressway run on Monday morning. Here are a few pics that I could click with my mobile, given the space and light constraints, and the fact that my camera is lying in Pune.

The first couple of pics show the old tyre and the temporary sidewall repair. The rear view of the car shows the comparison between the two treads. Sorry, but I couldn't manage to get closer pics.

[scorp 1]

can the following 5 spoke alloys be made available (17'' genuine fiat accessory), or can we get even a closer match in 15'' or 16''?

http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/car-1.jpg
http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/car-2.jpg
http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/car-3.jpg

[nkrishnap]

Hi All,

I am posting on behalf of my friend who has a 1.3 MJD PUNTO Emotion Pk. The stock tyres have already done very close to 40K so time for replacement.

With a bit of research and discussion with a few tyre shop owners, we have got into a lot of confusion.

The need is the balance between sport and comfort.

Actually we are looking at 205/60 R15 though there are very limited choices in this spec.

We were suggested the below tyres.

1. Hankook 205/55 R15 (approx Rs. 5600)
2. Yokohoma S Drive 205/55 R15 (Approx Rs 5500)
3. Michelin Pilot preceda 205/60 R15 and 205/55 R15 (no idea abt price)
4. 195/65 R15 Michelin primacy LC (around Rs. 5900)

Now we are really confused with the options.

Tyre gurus please help us with the correct tyre for the Punto. Also does going for 205/60 R15 have adverse effect on the suspension parts?

I believe the Punto Emotion pack and for that matter all punto clusters are programmed such that the DTE, mileage and all other figures are calculated in the basis of tyre OD. If your change the OD the calculatiosn will go awry

[WasavaTyres]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

Actually we are looking at 205/60 R15 though there are very limited choices in this spec.

I'm using 205/60/R15 Yokohama V550 tyres and as far as I know they're available off the shelf in most cities.

[kaush666]

Hey guys, I bought my new Punto 1.2 Emotion a couple of days back. I am looking to swap my stock tires and rims for wider 15 inchers and 98 PCD alloys. After reading every post in this thread line by line I have decided on 195/60 15" tires with 98 PCD alloys from Neo or HRS. I called up Lal Enterprises and asked him for a quote for the tires and alloys. I have zeroed in on the Yokohama ES100. Now I have quite a few queries regarding the upsize and it would be very helpful if someone could answer my queries.

1. The price for each Yoko ES100 quoted by Lal was Rs.4500/- Is this reasonable?

2. The price for 4x98 PCD alloys from HRS-Hijoin and Neo was quoted anywhere between Rs.19500 and Rs.22000 depending upon the finish. I feel this is a tad too much considering most people have got their 15" alloys in the price range of 15k-17k. 20k tops. What do you say guys?

3. I read from fellow bhpian raj_5004's thread that he had wobbling issues at high speeds because of the aftermarket alloys. He got hub-centric rings to fix the issue. But then if I opt for 6J or 6.5J rims will I still have the issue?

4. Will my warranty be void because I am upsizing to 15 inchers?

5. How do the Yoko ES100s perform compared to the C-Drives? Is it a good choice?

If I am risking my warranty is it ok to put alloys on the stock 165/80 R14 JK Tornadoes? Or should I upsize to 185/70 R14?

Will be waiting eagerly for replies

Cheers,
Kaushik

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

Hi All,

I am posting on behalf of my friend who has a 1.3 MJD PUNTO Emotion Pk. The stock tyres have already done very close to 40K so time for replacement.

With a bit of research and discussion with a few tyre shop owners, we have got into a lot of confusion.

The need is the balance between sport and comfort.

Actually we are looking at 205/60 R15 though there are very limited choices in this spec.

We were suggested the below tyres.

1. Hankook 205/55 R15 (approx Rs. 5600)
2. Yokohoma S Drive 205/55 R15 (Approx Rs 5500)
3. Michelin Pilot preceda 205/60 R15 and 205/55 R15 (no idea abt price)
4. 195/65 R15 Michelin primacy LC (around Rs. 5900)

Now we are really confused with the options.

Tyre gurus please help us with the correct tyre for the Punto. Also does going for 205/60 R15 have adverse effect on the suspension parts?

Hankook - Which model? From what I am aware, none of the performance tyres are available in India.

Yoko S drive is a good bet. Good performance. Noisy and prone to sidewall damages.
Michelin PP2 is not available at all (Unfortunately)


Primacy LC is a good bet but it isnt a performance tyre. Extremely comfortable and silent. Needs some care while driving on bad roads.

Originally Posted by kaush666

Hey guys, I bought my new Punto 1.2 Emotion a couple of days back. I am looking to swap my stock tires and rims for wider 15 inchers and 98 PCD alloys. After reading every post in this thread line by line I have decided on 195/60 15" tires with 98 PCD alloys from Neo or HRS. I called up Lal Enterprises and asked him for a quote for the tires and alloys. I have zeroed in on the Yokohama ES100. Now I have quite a few queries regarding the upsize and it would be very helpful if someone could answer my queries.

1. The price for each Yoko ES100 quoted by Lal was Rs.4500/- Is this reasonable?

2. The price for 4x98 PCD alloys from HRS-Hijoin and Neo was quoted anywhere between Rs.19500 and Rs.22000 depending upon the finish. I feel this is a tad too much considering most people have got their 15" alloys in the price range of 15k-17k. 20k tops. What do you say guys?

3. I read from fellow bhpian raj_5004's thread that he had wobbling issues at high speeds because of the aftermarket alloys. He got hub-centric rings to fix the issue. But then if I opt for 6J or 6.5J rims will I still have the issue?

4. Will my warranty be void because I am upsizing to 15 inchers?

5. How do the Yoko ES100s perform compared to the C-Drives? Is it a good choice?

If I am risking my warranty is it ok to put alloys on the stock 165/80 R14 JK Tornadoes? Or should I upsize to 185/70 R14?

Will be waiting eagerly for replies

Cheers,
Kaushik

You are risking your warranty. Normally they dont make a fuss but technically, they can make a fuss if you upsize like that.

The Es100s are so called performance tyres. Noisy but reasonably grippy. The C drives are silent and soft. Very comfortable to drive on.

I would say 185/70 R14 is a good size to upsize to. Get Michelin XM1+ or Yoko A drive.

[sumobom4]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

You are risking your warranty. Normally they dont make a fuss but technically, they can make a fuss if you upsize like that.

The Es100s are so called performance tyres. Noisy but reasonably grippy. The C drives are silent and soft. Very comfortable to drive on.

I would say 185/70 R14 is a good size to upsize to. Get Michelin XM1+ or Yoko A drive.

Would the warranty really be voided in this particular case? Punto Emotion Packs are shod with 195/60 R15 rubber anyway, so the suspension components are certainly made to take that size without issues. Shouldn't it be alright as long as 195/60 R15s are used alongwith 98 PCD alloys (not 100 PCD ones with wobbly bolts)?
I am not sure, so I wanted to clarify my doubt. It will be really sad if the warranty is voided in this situation.

[Rock 'n' rollz]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Primacy LC is a good bet but it isnt a performance tyre. Extremely comfortable and silent. Needs some care while driving on bad roads.

I can vouch for that. little expensive though. Have them on my Punto MJD since last 10K+ kms. Super silent and comfortable. Another advantage I can hear the diesel clatter better.

You can also go for Conti CPC2.

[WasavaTyres]

Originally Posted by kaush666

2. The price for 4x98 PCD alloys from HRS-Hijoin and Neo was quoted anywhere between Rs.19500 and Rs.22000 depending upon the finish. I feel this is a tad too much considering most people have got their 15" alloys in the price range of 15k-17k. 20k tops. What do you say guys?Kaushik

Neo makes 98 PCD alloys ?? Just reconfirm.

[MCR]

I have completed 20K kms on the Bridgestone OE tyre on my Punto. I plan to replace the tyres and wheels soon. The current setup is 175/70R14 B250 on steel wheels.
I was planning to get Turanza ER-60 of size 195/60R15 with some 98PCD 15 inch alloys. I have selected ER-60 since my cars goes to places where there is no tar road. I came to know that ER-60 is designed considering wear resistance in mind.
Please suggest whether this is a good choice. I have a budget of around 30K INR including alloys and tyres.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by sumobom4

Would the warranty really be voided in this particular case? Punto Emotion Packs are shod with 195/60 R15 rubber anyway, so the suspension components are certainly made to take that size without issues. Shouldn't it be alright as long as 195/60 R15s are used alongwith 98 PCD alloys (not 100 PCD ones with wobbly bolts)?
I am not sure, so I wanted to clarify my doubt. It will be really sad if the warranty is voided in this situation.

195/60 R15 is fine as it is stock on the Punto anyway. The same way a VDi swift with 185/70 R14 is ok. Maruti dealers themselves recommend an upsize to 185/70 R14.

Originally Posted by WasavaTyres

Neo makes 98 PCD alloys ?? Just reconfirm.

They do! Surprising. But I found out recently.

Originally Posted by MCR

I have completed 20K kms on the Bridgestone OE tyre on my Punto. I plan to replace the tyres and wheels soon. The current setup is 175/70R14 B250 on steel wheels.
I was planning to get Turanza ER-60 of size 195/60R15 with some 98PCD 15 inch alloys. I have selected ER-60 since my cars goes to places where there is no tar road. I came to know that ER-60 is designed considering wear resistance in mind.
Please suggest whether this is a good choice. I have a budget of around 30K INR including alloys and tyres.

ER 60 is not designed keeping wear resistance in mind. It's a good tyre nevertheless. If you are worried about bad roads, stick to 14" and go for 185/70 R14. Higher profile means lesser chance of tyres getting damaged.

[MCR]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

ER 60 is not designed keeping wear resistance in mind. It's a good tyre nevertheless. If you are worried about bad roads, stick to 14" and go for 185/70 R14. Higher profile means lesser chance of tyres getting damaged.

Makes sense. I just enquired about the Turanza ER-60 185/70R14, costs INR 4050/- per piece in Bangalore. This tyre will also help in increasing the GC by around 5mm atleast. I plan to buy only 4 tyres, since my spare wheel is in a very good condition.

Edit : How is Appollo Acelere compared to Turanza ER - 60?

[Nikhilb2008]

I would prefer the Acelere. However, th ER60 would be more durable.