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Old 25th August 2016, 17:36   #76
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

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Guys please suggest shall i go ahead with existing or buy a new one. As i cannot replace with spare beacuse in Baleno Spare tyre is steel and of small size.
Looks like the tyre sidewall was cut by a sharp object when you drove over it. Do note, this can happen even at low speed.

Happened to my car's front and rear LHS tyres whilst driving through an area with a lot of construction activity. I replaced the set.

Don't take a risk. Replace it especially because your spare wheel is of a different size/configuration.

This is not a manufacturing defect and is considered impact damage. Warranty claim will in all probability be denied by the manufacturer.
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Old 26th August 2016, 09:15   #77
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

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Cant use this tyre as spare wheel as in baleno the spare wheel comes with different configuration.
Other option is to move this tyre to rear wheel.
Hello Rajpandey10,

In that case, please discard the cut tyre. Even if it is used in rear, it is a big risk. It is not at all recommended.
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Old 26th August 2016, 10:37   #78
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

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I asked for the warranty claim, but as it is not mfg defect so advisor is not accepting the warranty claim, he told me that this is just a cut on upper rubber layer, which fortunately has not deep and tyre strength is intact. He asked me to go ahead with exisiting tyre without any worry.
This will be considered impact damage by any tire company so a warranty claim will not apply.

Since your spare is a space saver, just go ahead and replace this tire.
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

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Looks like the tyre sidewall was cut by a sharp object when you drove over it. Do note, this can happen even at low speed.
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Hello Rajpandey10,

In that case, please discard the cut tyre. Even if it is used in rear, it is a big risk. It is not at all recommended.
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This will be considered impact damage by any tire company so a warranty claim will not apply.

Since your spare is a space saver, just go ahead and replace this tire.
Thanks for the suggestion, for the peace of mind, yesterday i went to Apollo tyres and got the tyre replaced.
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Hi I have a query on similar problem. My xylo's tyre has a small puncture on the edge of sidewall near the surface that touches the road. This tyre is tubeless. The tyre mechanic said that repair is not possible. So I put a new tube and made it a spare tyre. Is it dangerous to retain this tyre and if need be, can I use it on one of the 4 wheels?
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

@cs_rajesh; Any damage on the sidewall warrants a replacement. Nothing short of that is advised. But then it is your money and your life. Not exactly since other road users may also be involved.

So change the tyre pronto!
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Hi I have a query on similar problem. My xylo's tyre has a small puncture on the edge of sidewall near the surface that touches the road. This tyre is tubeless. The tyre mechanic said that repair is not possible. So I put a new tube and made it a spare tyre. Is it dangerous to retain this tyre and if need be, can I use it on one of the 4 wheels?
Not a good idea to put a tube in a tubeless tyre. Please understand that this type of typical Indian "jugaad" comprises your and your passenger's safety. Not to mention those of others on the road.

Please change the tyre and get peace of mind.
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Not a good idea to put a tube in a tubeless tyre. Please understand that this type of typical Indian "jugaad" comprises your and your passenger's safety..
Yes from the very deed of putting a tube inside a tubeless tire it is known to be a Jugaad. But can you explain why this Jugaad is unsafe ?
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

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Yes from the very deed of putting a tube inside a tubeless tire it is known to be a Jugaad. But can you explain why this Jugaad is unsafe ?
I think it will overheat more rapidly if you put a tube inside a tubeless tire as heat transfer rate will get affected.

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Yes from the very deed of putting a tube inside a tubeless tire it is known to be a Jugaad. But can you explain why this Jugaad is unsafe ?
That's because friction is created between the tube and the inner wall of the tyre.

This gets even more pronounced when the sidewall flexes. Heat damages the tube and the tyre carcass. And you can imagine what happens should heat get out of hand.

You could fit a tube in a tubeless tyre for use only in an absolute emergency. But at the same time make sure your speed is limited and you are on decent roads where tyre flex is minimised.
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

My wife hit a tree mound on the roadside - don't ask me how, she is learning. The incident and post incident in itself is a story for a different day.

The point I am trying to get to is: My front tyre (Michelin XM2) has a deep cut. It is around 3 years and 25KM old and the treads on all 4 tyres look good. I am going to replace it. The question I have is whether I need to replace 2 tyres or one? Would there be any stability issues due to difference in age of tyres and subsequent wear on the older tyre?

And if I can replace one, should I swap front tyres to back and vice versa?

BTW - I got the tree mound fixed as a goodwill gesture to the tree
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

in 2012, I bought a set of apollo acceleres, and they got a sidewall cut on the very first day.
I put a tube in it, and had kept it as a spare. Sometime in 2014, the tyre got swapped out and was doing regular duty when it had went flat.

The post mortem revealed that the cut in the sidewall patch, had through continuous flexing damaged the tube. The tyre guy surprisingly said this happens a lot, fixed my punctured tube, and put a sheet of cut up tube between the tube and the tyre to make sure this does not happen.

the tyre is still doing spare duty, so I'm not sure about how effective the fix is
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

Sidewall cut or similar serious damage = Change to a Brand new tyre. Dont be a stingy miser on this aspect at least please!

It is just not worth risking your life and limb for the sake of a few rupees savings.

Trying to repair and patch up tyres in this day and age, is downright idiotic especially when the prices of brand new tyres are quite reasonable and there are zillions of deals available both online and offline - far more than ever before, in fact.

If you can't afford to buy a new tyre outright, there are innumerable EMI schemes on your credit cards and of course cash back schemes on the new age wallets that you can take advantage of.

Basis the above, there is absolutely NO reason to want to patch up or repair a ruined tyre. Again I say, at the risk of sounding impolite, that it is absolutely stupid to want to do a repair job on a product which can mean the difference between life and death while driving on our already poor quality, unsafe roads and highways.
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Re: Sidewall cut in tubeless tyre - repair possible?

Hello everyone, I got a sidewall cut on one of the Michelin XM2 tyres, used on Ritz VDi. It happened about more than a year back. This set of tyres have covered about 50000 kms and still have about 40% life left.

Now obviously, the best option will be to replace the tyre but I am still wondering that it is being used like this for more than a year and should have covered at least 15000 kms with cut. I haven't ever faced any air leakage/bulging/any structural defect and serves like other tyres of the set. Upon close inspection, cut is about 3 cms long and 2-3 mm deep but at an angle of about 30-45' about sidewall face.

Currently, I have installed this set in my '99 Lancer GLXi and got a new set of Michelin XM2s in Ritz, which is the main runner. Lancer is driven just for leisure, about 400 kms per month (Odometer = ~74000 kms ).
What shall I do about this tyre dilemma, any comments please.
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Hello everyone, I got a sidewall cut on one of the Michelin XM2 tyres, used on Ritz VDi. It happened about more than a year back. This set of tyres have covered about 50000 kms and still have about 40% life left.

Now obviously, the best option will be to replace the tyre but I am still wondering that it is being used like this for more than a year and should have covered at least 15000 kms with cut. I haven't ever faced any air leakage/bulging/any structural defect and serves like other tyres of the set. Upon close inspection, cut is about 3 cms long and 2-3 mm deep but at an angle of about 30-45' about sidewall face.

Currently, I have installed this set in my '99 Lancer GLXi and got a new set of Michelin XM2s in Ritz, which is the main runner. Lancer is driven just for leisure, about 400 kms per month (Odometer = ~74000 kms ).
What shall I do about this tyre dilemma, any comments please.
A specialist tyre repair shop can repair it by vulcanisation, if you can find one. It is regularly done for truck tyres and passenger car tyres are not much different. However, you need to do the cost benefit analysis.

Running the tyre without repairing it is downright dangerous, even for a few kms. And a Lancer is not a sedate car to drive.
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