Whats the weight of your wheel-tyre combo??

Shan2nu · 14th July 2005, 16:20

I was just watching a Best Motoring video where they were testing the Evo VIII MR with diff alloy wheels and the lap times pointed out that with a decrease of 1.2 Kilos per wheel, the car felt a lot faster getting into the corners and achieved a lap time of almost 0.3 - 0.5 secs per lap.

So, that got me wondering. We talk so much about wheels and big fat tyres but, nobody ever considers the extra weight these new tyres/wheels put on the car.

I just couldn't help but take the spre tyre out of the Vtec and weigh it. LOL

This is what i found.

The spare tyre which measures 195/60 R14 on the stock Vtec alloys at 29 psi weighs exactly 15 Kilos, which equates to a total of 75 Kilos for the 5 tyres combined!!!!

Frankly, i never thought they'd weigh that much.

So, if you've got a spare tyre (the same size as the other tyres), fill it to it's recommended psi and see how much it weighs.

This will give us a better picture as to which combo equates to a lighter yet grippy, investment.

BTW, here's the format.

Tyre Make/Model - Bridgestone Potenza GIII
Tyre Size - 195/60 R14
Wheel Make/Model - Stock Vtec Wheels
Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - Alluminium Alloy
Wheel Width - 5.5 "
Recomended tyre pressure - 29psi
Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - 15 Kgs.

Shan2nu

iceman91 · 14th July 2005, 16:28

Tyre Make/Model - YOKOHAMA AVS ES-100
Tyre Size - 205/50/15
Wheel Make/Model - HR RACING WHEELS
Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - ALLOY
Wheel Width -
Recomended tyre pressure - 28
Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - 13 Kgs.

ported_head · 14th July 2005, 16:39

Rephrased: Iceman, what was the difference in weight over the stock wheel/tyre combo?

P.S.: Big Brother is watching, constantly.

Rtech · 14th July 2005, 16:43

Stock baleno has 13" steel wheels with 165 tyres! Now, ask that question again

mahi0375 · 14th July 2005, 16:47

Hay shan2nu this is going to be a interesting & useful thread…..My 7.5X17 Wheel was perfect 7.55KG…but not checked with tyres on…..I am on 225/45R 17

iceman91 · 14th July 2005, 16:51

hey mahi...thats a really light wheel for its size

Shan2nu · 14th July 2005, 16:52

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My 7.5X17 Wheel was perfect 7.55KG…but not checked with tyres on…..I am on 225/45R 17

This test is only for wheels with tyres on and the recomended tyre pressure. get that done and let us know.

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Hay shan2nu this is going to be a interesting & useful thread

Thats' the point. LOL

Shan2nu

Shan2nu · 14th July 2005, 16:55

NOTE : Wheel width has been added to the format. Please mention that too

Shan2nu

mahi0375 · 14th July 2005, 17:05

yes Shan2nu thats why i have not voted.......I will try to get the Combined weight of tyre/wheel

iceman91 · 14th July 2005, 21:22

stock no idea but it will be around the same...13" pressed steel and stock indian rubber.

Rtech · 15th July 2005, 10:19

No way, ICE, the stock tyre would be much lighter. You're looking at a 2" increase in diameter and an increase in width as well. Not to mention the increase in tyre size as well.

iceman91 · 15th July 2005, 10:32

well rtech, these are racing alloys, lighter than stock...alslo the tires are much much lighter than stock..even though size is much bigger.

why yesterday bought american performance rubber for a friend and they were 195/55/14. were lighter than stock 13" tire by more than 30%!!!

Shan2nu · 15th July 2005, 10:35

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No way, ICE, the stock tyre would be much lighter. You're looking at a 2" increase in diameter and an increase in width as well. Not to mention the increase in tyre size as well.

Even i feel it'll be close to the 13 kilo mark, maybe even more. We won't know unless we actually test it.

Does anyone have stock Baleno tyre/wheel on their car?

I mean think about it, for similar rolling diameter, my wheel/tyre are 2 kilos heavier than Iceman's. Reason being that even though i'm on 195 mm, a larger % of the wheel is consumed by the tyre where as in his case, it's the alloy wheel that makes up most of the wheel.

The stocks might just be 165mm but, you can't forget that it's got a 80% profile which measures 132mm compared to the 102mm of the new tyres.

So, what ever the stock tyre loses in terms of tyre width, it makes up in terms of sidewall thickness. And then there's the weight of the steel wheels. If the stocks are tubed, there's gonna be that extra weight of the tubes too.

Shan2nu

Psycho · 15th July 2005, 12:39

well looks like I got the heaviest set of wheels... 205 x 65 x 15 on 15" 6 1/2 J BMW rims with each wheel weighing in at 24 KG's at 28 PSI

Rehaan · 18th July 2005, 22:45

I must say i was pretty happy to find out that members actually knew the weight of their wheel/tyres !!

Heres mine -

Tyre Make/Model - Michelin MXF sport
Tyre Size - 185/ R14
Wheel Make/Model - Most commonly known as the BSA 282
Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - Alluminium Alloy
Wheel Width - 5.5 "
Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - ~13 Kgs

And for the stepnee (as a comparison) -
Tyre Make/Model - Bridgestone S322 or S328 or something...either way they are all made of stone.
Tyre Size - 175/ R13
Wheel Make/Model - Pressed steel wheel (without the plastic wheelcover)
Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - Steel
Wheel Width - 5" ?
Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - ~15.5Kgs

The wheel/tyres were weighed when they were inflated to about 32psi.
Also, might be worth mentioning that 80% of my tread on the MXFs is missing

cya
R

View Poll Results: Combined weight of each wheel/tyre.
5 - 10 Kgs	6	25.00%
11 - 15 Kgs	10	41.67%
16 - 20 Kgs	4	16.67%
20 and above.....	4	16.67%
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14th July 2005, 16:20	#1
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Whats the weight of your wheel-tyre combo?? I was just watching a Best Motoring video where they were testing the Evo VIII MR with diff alloy wheels and the lap times pointed out that with a decrease of 1.2 Kilos per wheel, the car felt a lot faster getting into the corners and achieved a lap time of almost 0.3 - 0.5 secs per lap. So, that got me wondering. We talk so much about wheels and big fat tyres but, nobody ever considers the extra weight these new tyres/wheels put on the car. I just couldn't help but take the spre tyre out of the Vtec and weigh it. LOL This is what i found. The spare tyre which measures 195/60 R14 on the stock Vtec alloys at 29 psi weighs exactly 15 Kilos, which equates to a total of 75 Kilos for the 5 tyres combined!!!! Frankly, i never thought they'd weigh that much. So, if you've got a spare tyre (the same size as the other tyres), fill it to it's recommended psi and see how much it weighs. This will give us a better picture as to which combo equates to a lighter yet grippy, investment. BTW, here's the format. Tyre Make/Model - Bridgestone Potenza GIII Tyre Size - 195/60 R14 Wheel Make/Model - Stock Vtec Wheels Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - Alluminium Alloy Wheel Width - 5.5 " Recomended tyre pressure - 29psi Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - 15 Kgs. Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 14th July 2005 at 23:09.
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14th July 2005, 16:28	#2
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Tyre Make/Model - YOKOHAMA AVS ES-100 Tyre Size - 205/50/15 Wheel Make/Model - HR RACING WHEELS Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - ALLOY Wheel Width - Recomended tyre pressure - 28 Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - 13 Kgs. Last edited by Shan2nu : 14th July 2005 at 16:54.
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14th July 2005, 16:39	#3
ported_head Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 2,387 Thanked: 20 Times	Rephrased: Iceman, what was the difference in weight over the stock wheel/tyre combo? P.S.: Big Brother is watching, constantly. Last edited by ported_head : 14th July 2005 at 17:01.
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14th July 2005, 16:43	#4
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Stock baleno has 13" steel wheels with 165 tyres! Now, ask that question again
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14th July 2005, 16:47	#5
mahi0375 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times	Hay shan2nu this is going to be a interesting & useful thread…..My 7.5X17 Wheel was perfect 7.55KG…but not checked with tyres on…..I am on 225/45R 17
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14th July 2005, 16:51	#6
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	hey mahi...thats a really light wheel for its size
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14th July 2005, 16:55	#8
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	NOTE : Wheel width has been added to the format. Please mention that too Shan2nu
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14th July 2005, 17:05	#9
mahi0375 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times	yes Shan2nu thats why i have not voted.......I will try to get the Combined weight of tyre/wheel
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14th July 2005, 21:22	#10
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	stock no idea but it will be around the same...13" pressed steel and stock indian rubber.
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15th July 2005, 10:19	#11
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	No way, ICE, the stock tyre would be much lighter. You're looking at a 2" increase in diameter and an increase in width as well. Not to mention the increase in tyre size as well.
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15th July 2005, 10:32	#12
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	well rtech, these are racing alloys, lighter than stock...alslo the tires are much much lighter than stock..even though size is much bigger. why yesterday bought american performance rubber for a friend and they were 195/55/14. were lighter than stock 13" tire by more than 30%!!!
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15th July 2005, 12:39	#14
Psycho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,043 Thanked: 110 Times View My Garage	well looks like I got the heaviest set of wheels... 205 x 65 x 15 on 15" 6 1/2 J BMW rims with each wheel weighing in at 24 KG's at 28 PSI
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18th July 2005, 22:45	#15
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,042 Thanked: 34,074 Times	I must say i was pretty happy to find out that members actually knew the weight of their wheel/tyres !! Heres mine - Tyre Make/Model - Michelin MXF sport Tyre Size - 185/ R14 Wheel Make/Model - Most commonly known as the BSA 282 Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - Alluminium Alloy Wheel Width - 5.5 " Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - ~13 Kgs And for the stepnee (as a comparison) - Tyre Make/Model - Bridgestone S322 or S328 or something...either way they are all made of stone. Tyre Size - 175/ R13 Wheel Make/Model - Pressed steel wheel (without the plastic wheelcover) Wheel Type (Alloy, Steel etc) - Steel Wheel Width - 5" ? Combined weight of each tyre/wheel - ~15.5Kgs The wheel/tyres were weighed when they were inflated to about 32psi. Also, might be worth mentioning that 80% of my tread on the MXFs is missing cya R
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