Tata Indigo Manza : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

MihirC · 27th November 2009, 00:19

Hey forgot to mention that there will be highway trips anywhere from 300-800 kms once a month, is the stock size sufficient for highway speed and handling?

Nikhilb2008 · 27th November 2009, 09:52

See, both Michelin and Conti will be decent for a car like the Manza. It is not really that powerful.

There will be a slight speedo error. Ride quality will increase because you have more rubber in the sidewall. Do confirm that 195/60 R15 will fit in the wheel well. I dont have any experience yet with Manzas.

You need to ask the dealer if he will upgrade! How can you ask me that!?!

MihirC · 27th November 2009, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

See, both Michelin and Conti will be decent for a car like the Manza. It is not really that powerful.

There will be a slight speedo error. Ride quality will increase because you have more rubber in the sidewall. Do confirm that 195/60 R15 will fit in the wheel well. I dont have any experience yet with Manzas.

You need to ask the dealer if he will upgrade! How can you ask me that!?!

Thanks Nikhil.My point of asking you was just to know if it is a normal practice amongst dealers to upgrade like this as i was unaware.

isldhn · 22nd January 2010, 13:59

Guys, I need suggestions to upsize tyres on my friends Tata Manza Aura ABS. I was thinking of changing the stock tyres to Michelin or Yokohama. Do keep your suggestions flowing

ph03n!x · 22nd January 2010, 14:04

The stock is 186/60 R15 on 5.5J rims. Suggest you keep the same size, and get a XM1+ or A.Drive - if you want to go for broader tires, you will have to get 6J Rims / alloys.

EDIT - couldn't find 185/60 in 15" in Michelin's site. Check with your tire dealer. for 195 profile, 5.5J is the minimum rim width, however 6J is the optimum width (hence recommended to go for 195 only with 6J - the tire walls will flex more in 5.5J & 195).

isldhn · 22nd January 2010, 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

The stock is 186/60 R15 on 5.5J rims. Suggest you keep the same size, and get a XM1+ or A.Drive - if you want to go for broader tires, you will have to get 6J Rims / alloys.

EDIT - couldn't find 185/60 in 15" in Michelin's site. Check with your tire dealer. for 195 profile, 5.5J is the minimum rim width, however 6J is the optimum width (hence recommended to go for 195 only with 6J).

Thank dude. That was quick. What would be the optimum upsize cause this car demands broader rubber ( the looks part). What is 6J ( so sorry for asking this newbie question

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Nikhilb2008 · 22nd January 2010, 15:11

195/ needs a minimum of 5.5j. So, 195/60 R15 is a good size. Get Michelin/Yoko/Continental in that size.

However, you can get alloys in 6.5j in 15". That would be the best solution.

ph03n!x · 23rd January 2010, 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by isldhn

Thank dude. That was quick. What would be the optimum upsize cause this car demands broader rubber ( the looks part). What is 6J ( so sorry for asking this newbie question

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6J denotes the width of the rim - the walls of right tire size on a recommended width rim will flex just about right. If the rim is not recommended, but minimum required, the walls will flex a bit more (translates to bad handling while cornering, because the walls deforms more). And if the rim size if the max suited, then the walls of the tire will flex a bit less than they should (translates to bad handling while cornering, because the walls are stiff and do not deform enough! This also means a stiffer ride).

Try this out if you want all the dope: Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 1 of 4

If you want really beefy looks (sticking-outta-wheel-arch look), take a 205/55 R15. If that is too much, go for 195/55 R15.

Am advicing all on 15" because I am assuming you do not want to go for a 16" rim, due to warranty considerations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

195/ needs a minimum of 5.5j. So, 195/60 R15 is a good size. Get Michelin/Yoko/Continental in that size.

However, you can get alloys in 6.5j in 15". That would be the best solution.

With 195/60 R15 compared to 185/60 R15 (stock), the speedo difference is 2% (positive). If you choose 205/55 R15, the difference is 0.6% (positive) - so 205/55 R15 is more of a match. 195/55 R15 gives a 1.2% (negative) (but that too is acceptable).

For 205/55 R15, the right rim width is 6.5J. For 195/55 R15, it would be 6J. Note that Michelin did not have 195/55 R15 last I checked (my car run on Yoko S. Drives of the same size though).

nitrous · 23rd January 2010, 08:27

For the power and weight of the Manza, don't go wider than 195/55/R15.
Optimum size for the good ride and handling.

Nikhilb2008 · 23rd January 2010, 11:15

195/55 R15 would be too low profile. I would suggest 195/60 R15. The 2% odo error is acceptable.

My suggestion holds good only if 195/60 R15 can fit properly in the wheel arch. I havent seen a Manza properly and havent analysed the wheel well, so I cant comment for sure.

nitrous · 25th January 2010, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhil

195/55 R15 would be too low profile.

Cmon! Its OE size for the Ford Fiesta S.

That said I agree to the 195/60/R15 size provided the clearances are good and the alloy wheels with the right offset are chosen.

isldhn · 25th January 2010, 15:02

My friend has gone for Yoko A-drives- 195/60/15, and Plati alloys ( Kinda bmw 5 series one). I had selected the Yoko S Drives (205/55/15) and a plati alloy which had a big alloy lip and was black and chrome in centre ( Totally 'Wicked'). But after putting on all the tyres and alloys, his mind got over his heart

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The dealer bought back the oem tyres for 13000/- and new a-drives cost him 4150/-. Total well spent( some people call this -damage) amt.-16000/-
Will get pictures in a couple of days.

akhilesh51 · 27th January 2010, 17:45

I am too looking to buy a Safire A+ Manza in coming few weeks. I am most definitely upsizing to 16" as warranty considerations are not an issue. (Hah! More like i don't care.)

Please suggest tyre size suitable for upsize and alloy configurations best suited for this.

Thanks in advance.

vcash · 4th February 2010, 14:40

Hi Guys,
My Manza QDJ Aura (ABS) is on it's way and I will be upgrading the tyres and plan on getting alloys as well. My primary requirements are:
1) Comfort
2) Handling
3) Minimal speedo error

I am thinking of Michelin MX1+'s for the tyres but have not decided whether I want to go with the stock size or uprate them?

Also - Thinking about simple, understated alloys from a reputed brand (No chinese knockoffs). Can someone make any suggestions? I have seen a few from Neo, Apollo & Aura but I am not too fond of any of these.

I really like the new alloys on the SX4 VVT - Would like to get something like these. What would be the closest in after market?:

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Another alternative is to stick with the optional alloy wheel offered by Tata. Does anybody know the price of these?

Cheers,
V

P.S. If folks can start putting up pics of 15" 108 PCD alloy options here, it would be a good resource for Manza owners. I'll start - Here are a couple of Neo wheels and one from Sai MAg Wheel (Racing Dynamics?)

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RufRoc · 4th February 2010, 21:09

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Originally Posted by vcash

If folks can start putting up pics of 15" 108 PCD alloy options here, it would be a good resource for Manza owners. I'll start - Here are a couple of Neo wheels and one from Sai MAg Wheel (Racing Dynamics?)

vcash, thats a good suggestion knowing that 108 PCD's ain't that easy to come by. Will look into the Lenso catalogue to see if they have any 108's (15") and update here ... I doubt it but am so in love with their Samurai series.

Any pics of the alloys (optional) offered by TATA ... remember reading someplace that it was quoted as 25 K (for 5) but I could be mistaken.

27th November 2009, 00:19	#16
MihirC BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 534 Thanked: 71 Times	oops Hey forgot to mention that there will be highway trips anywhere from 300-800 kms once a month, is the stock size sufficient for highway speed and handling?
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27th November 2009, 09:52	#17
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	See, both Michelin and Conti will be decent for a car like the Manza. It is not really that powerful. There will be a slight speedo error. Ride quality will increase because you have more rubber in the sidewall. Do confirm that 195/60 R15 will fit in the wheel well. I dont have any experience yet with Manzas. You need to ask the dealer if he will upgrade! How can you ask me that!?!
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22nd January 2010, 13:59	#19
isldhn BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 285 Thanked: 147 Times	Tyre upsize for Tata Manza Guys, I need suggestions to upsize tyres on my friends Tata Manza Aura ABS. I was thinking of changing the stock tyres to Michelin or Yokohama. Do keep your suggestions flowing
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22nd January 2010, 14:04	#20
ph03n!x Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2,566 Thanked: 5,961 Times	The stock is 186/60 R15 on 5.5J rims. Suggest you keep the same size, and get a XM1+ or A.Drive - if you want to go for broader tires, you will have to get 6J Rims / alloys. EDIT - couldn't find 185/60 in 15" in Michelin's site. Check with your tire dealer. for 195 profile, 5.5J is the minimum rim width, however 6J is the optimum width (hence recommended to go for 195 only with 6J - the tire walls will flex more in 5.5J & 195). Last edited by ph03n!x : 22nd January 2010 at 14:11.
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22nd January 2010, 15:11	#22
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	195/ needs a minimum of 5.5j. So, 195/60 R15 is a good size. Get Michelin/Yoko/Continental in that size. However, you can get alloys in 6.5j in 15". That would be the best solution.
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23rd January 2010, 08:27	#24
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	For the power and weight of the Manza, don't go wider than 195/55/R15. Optimum size for the good ride and handling.
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23rd January 2010, 11:15	#25
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	195/55 R15 would be too low profile. I would suggest 195/60 R15. The 2% odo error is acceptable. My suggestion holds good only if 195/60 R15 can fit properly in the wheel arch. I havent seen a Manza properly and havent analysed the wheel well, so I cant comment for sure.
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25th January 2010, 15:02	#27
isldhn BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 285 Thanked: 147 Times	My friend has gone for Yoko A-drives- 195/60/15, and Plati alloys ( Kinda bmw 5 series one). I had selected the Yoko S Drives (205/55/15) and a plati alloy which had a big alloy lip and was black and chrome in centre ( Totally 'Wicked'). But after putting on all the tyres and alloys, his mind got over his heart . The dealer bought back the oem tyres for 13000/- and new a-drives cost him 4150/-. Total well spent( some people call this -damage) amt.-16000/- Will get pictures in a couple of days.
	() Thanks

27th January 2010, 17:45	#28
akhilesh51 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jaipur, RAJ Posts: 631 Thanked: 339 Times	I am too looking to buy a Safire A+ Manza in coming few weeks. I am most definitely upsizing to 16" as warranty considerations are not an issue. (Hah! More like i don't care.) Please suggest tyre size suitable for upsize and alloy configurations best suited for this. Thanks in advance.
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4th February 2010, 14:40	#29
vcash BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 453 Thanked: 22 Times	Hi Guys, My Manza QDJ Aura (ABS) is on it's way and I will be upgrading the tyres and plan on getting alloys as well. My primary requirements are: 1) Comfort 2) Handling 3) Minimal speedo error I am thinking of Michelin MX1+'s for the tyres but have not decided whether I want to go with the stock size or uprate them? Also - Thinking about simple, understated alloys from a reputed brand (No chinese knockoffs). Can someone make any suggestions? I have seen a few from Neo, Apollo & Aura but I am not too fond of any of these. I really like the new alloys on the SX4 VVT - Would like to get something like these. What would be the closest in after market?: Another alternative is to stick with the optional alloy wheel offered by Tata. Does anybody know the price of these? Cheers, V P.S. If folks can start putting up pics of 15" 108 PCD alloy options here, it would be a good resource for Manza owners. I'll start - Here are a couple of Neo wheels and one from Sai MAg Wheel (Racing Dynamics?)
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