[amit1234singla]

Originally Posted by roadrage

Blunder.
The cost of not having consulted fellow team-bhpians prior to choosing and upgrading tyre, alloy wheel.

TATA MANZA
Came with stock Apollo Accelere 185/60/R15, steel rims.

Ran car for 37,000 kms on alloys
PLati- 883
Size- 15*7
ET-25
PCD- 8*100/108
CB-

Wonder if the above was wrong in the first place.

Relying upon the advice given by the tyre dealer upgraded to Bridgestone RE88 195/60/R15 on the same set of alloy wheels.

While U- Turns and reverse sharp turns the tyre rubs against the plastic/inside of the wheel arches.

I am doomed.

With the above figures may I request fellow team-bhpians to take a shot as to what went wrong and if possible the ideal figures?

Thank you.

I think the issue is with the rim width. Stock size is 5.5j and you have got 7j. Due to extra width of the rim, tires must be touching inner side plastic on full turns. 6j would have been a better option. 195/60/15 is otherwise not an issue. I am running same size for last 45k km's on stock tata alloys which are 15x5.5j.

Are you sure that the plastic inside wheel well is at normal position and not dislodged etc. Just thinking as even with 7j rims I won't expect the tires to touch as wheel wells in manza have decent space. More so as you got ET 25 alloys which have lesser inset than stock (stock I think is ET32). But I could be wrong with numbers or logic here.

BTW - is your car's suspension in good shape?

[pariwar]

Originally Posted by amit1234singla

I am running aceleres 195/60/15 in my manza for last 41k km's and happy with the tires.

Amit,
Am in the process of changing my tyres to Apollo and have a good deal (25% off) and therefore considering Acelere. Since you are running them, a few questions.

1. The stock tyres are 185/60 R 15, can I upgrade to 190 or 195 without changing the rims/wheel? What is the advantage?
2. The tyres are now approx. 45K old, what reasonable price can I expect for the old ones?

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by pariwar

Amit,
Am in the process of changing my tyres to Apollo and have a good deal (25% off) and therefore considering Acelere. Since you are running them, a few questions.

1. The stock tyres are 185/60 R 15, can I upgrade to 190 or 195 without changing the rims/wheel? What is the advantage?
2. The tyres are now approx. 45K old, what reasonable price can I expect for the old ones?

1. You can easily upgrade to 185/95-14 or 195/60-14 . Advantages will be bit higher ground clearance

2. Max 200 bucks a tyre

[pariwar]

On the advise of Apollo senior staff, I purchased 5 nos. Acelere 195/55/R15 for my TATA MANZA to replace the stock Bridgestone 185/60/R15.

Decided to keep the new tyres in storage, as Apollo confirmed that the existing ones are good enough for at least another 4000-5000 kms.

I am guessing it will be beginning January when the vehicle starts wearing it's new shoes.

[Hudson]

The OEM tyres(Bridgestone B250 185/60R15) on my Dec 09 Manza Aura+ Quadrajet have completed around 35K kms.

Originally Posted by GTO

So that you better understand type size & profile, I'm including a comparo of the various options from 1010tyres.com calculator.

I'm planning to change the tyres. My running is 60% city+highway & 40% rural roads.


Based on GTO's analysis, I've created a list of possibilities. Tyre experts, please help me narrow down the choices as per my above requirements.


185/60 R15
Bridgestome B250 (Not displayed on Bridgestone's website. Dont know if it has been discontinued.)
Apollo Acelere(84T/84H)
MRF ZVTV

195/60 R15
Yokohama A-Drive AA01(88H)
Yokohama AVS Decibel V550(88V) directional
Yokohama C-Drive AC01(88V)
Yokohama S-Drive ES100(88H) directional

Bridgestone Ecopia EP100A (88H)
Bridgestone Potenza G-III (88H)
Bridgestone Potenza My-01 (88H)
Bridgestone Turanza AR-10 (88H)
Bridgestone Turanza ER-60 (88H)

Bridgestone Potenza My-02 (88V)
Bridgestone Potenza G-III (88V)
Bridgestone Potenza RE-88 (88V)

Apollo Acelere(88H/88V/91H)
MRF ZLO(88H)

195/55 R15
Yokohama A-Drive AA01(85V)
Yokohama S-Drive AS01(85V) directional

Bridgestone Potenza My-02 (85V)
Bridgestone Potenza G-III (85V)
Bridgestone Potenza My-01 (85V)

205/55 R15
Yokohama S-Drive AS01(88W) directional

[lurker]

205/55 R15
Maxxis MA Z1

[motomaverick]

Folks, looking for a hard compound tire that will be used for Ladakh trip in 185/60 R15 size which is the OE size. Which tires would be suitable?

[motomaverick]

Originally Posted by motomaverick

Folks, looking for a hard compound tire that will be used for Ladakh trip in 185/60 R15 size which is the OE size. Which tires would be suitable?

For tires will be going to Apollo Accelere but now I am stuck on the wheels. Tata showroom is asking a premium of 1300 bucks for 1 OEM steel wheel. That's shockingly expensive. So now I am looking for used wheels, so anyone who can point in the right direction would be great.

[A.G.The Rambler]

Originally Posted by Hudson

The OEM tyres(Bridgestone B250 185/60R15) on my Dec 09 Manza Aura+ Quadrajet have completed around 35K kms.

One Tyre shop told me that to go for 195/60R15 i need to upgrade to Alloys. Is that at all necessary for moving from 185/60R15 to 195/60R15? Any idea if the upgrade would also help in increasing some ground clearance. If so, how much approx.? My first requirement is to gain some ground clearance, now i am trying to understand which Tyre upgrade will be best suited for my Manza. Please help!

[Hudson]

I was planning to change the tyres on my Manza last year but since their condition was okay, postponed it for a year. Now the tyres have run 43K kms & are four years old. So this time have to change them. I've narrowed down to two options:

1. Bridgestone Turanza ER300 185/60 (OEM spec)
2. Bridgestone Turanza ER60 195/60 (upsize)

The car is running on 15 inch steel rims & I don't intend to put alloys.

If anyone has used the above options, please suggest. Also do I need to consider AR-20 in the options?

The car is generally driven on city, highway as well as rural roads.

[Hudson]

No inputs from anyone, so finally decided not to upsize to 195/60 & hence went with OEM spec(185/60) Bridgestone Turanza ER300. It is definitely better than B250 on uneven surfaces. Costed 20500 for 4 tyres along with alignment, balancing & weights.

Also since ER60 was not available in 195/60, the other option was AR-20 for 5500 a piece.

Lets see how the tyres performs!

[TechNomad]

Hi All
The other day , my left back type blasted on the road , and I am running on the stepny tyre . My tyres are stock tyres and have covered 33K as of now.

I am planning to replace all four Tyres , with an upsize to 195/60/R15 for my Manza QJD. The dilemma is whether to stick to Apollo Celere , or use costlier rubber like Bridgestone ER88 ?

Please suggest .


Regards
Technomad

[TechNomad]

I guess i should have put my usage pattern in the post above !
My daily running is about 55/60 KM all within Gurgaon City /NH8 . We goto outstation trips and come across all types of terrains from broken , to non-existent , to supper smooth , about once in every 3 months.

I have zeroed in on yokohama A-Drive 195/60/R15 , from a local delaler at about 4700/- per piece .

Any suggestions on the tyre , and the offered price - please ?


Thanks
Technomad

[TechNomad]

OK , no response is good response I guess !! So I researched almost all material in the Net and some more , then , before confusing myself any further - took the plunge today and changed all 4 tyres to Bridgestone Potenza RE88 , with 195/60/R15; Yes an upsize too!! This has set me back 21K , with the stock tyres traded for 200 Rs apiece.

So far I have driven like 20 km. maybe , after the change , and seems like the ride is making low noise than before !

need to check other factors in the long run though.

[windiesel]

Originally Posted by amit1234singla

No it won't rub anywhere. I have been using 195/60R15 in Manza for last 6k km's and the car has been loaded many times. Never had any issues.

Singla sahib, greetings! My Manza has done 62,000km and time has come to change tyres. I am also leaning towards 195x60 Apollo Acceleres. My only issue was that it may foul with the wheel arches when fully loaded.. you have already laid that to rest that it wont. Considering that the overall dia of the tyre goes up by almost an inch with 195x60, the car must really be having a lot of room in the wheel arches! Still have the manza? hows she doing? we both brought almost at the same time IIRC.

Originally Posted by TechNomad

OK , no response is good response I guess !! So I researched almost all material in the Net and some more , then , before confusing myself any further - took the plunge today and changed all 4 tyres to Bridgestone Potenza RE88 , with 195/60/R15; Yes an upsize too!! This has set me back 21K , with the stock tyres traded for 200 Rs apiece.
So far I have driven like 20 km. maybe , after the change , and seems like the ride is making low noise than before ! need to check other factors in the long run though.

Hi Technomad! So hows your experience been with the 195x60? Im also planning an upgrade to this size