[viper]

Guys,

I am using 175/60/13 on my Santro Xing since the past 18 months. Have clocked 16,000kms to date with no problems whatsoever.

The ride quality is superb and so is the grip.(stock rims). If I may add far greater driving pleasure all around than the stock tyres.

@ Samurai - Let me add that the brand/model of tyre plays a major role in the ride quality and not the size alone.

Viper

[jkdas]

@ viper: so which company tyres you use? and what did you do with the original tyres... and can we have a pic please ;

[viper]

Originally Posted by jkdas

@ viper: so which company tyres you use? and what did you do with the original tyres... and can we have a pic please ;

Hi,

I am using Ceat Spiders which are manufactured under technical collaboration with Pirelli. Will try and post some pics in a day or two.

Viper

Read this article from their website :

"The Car & utility vehicle tyres segment is divided in two parts: conventional tyres and radial tyres, which is a new and high technology. CEAT has recently introduced its ‘Spider’ range of Tubeless Radials in the Indian market. This range of high performance premium tubeless radial tyres is imported from the best tyre plants in Europe, Italian major Pirelli, the world leader in high performance radials, to offer customers high end products in the passenger radial segment, especially in tubeless tyres. These new tyres have inbuilt technology, which offers greater mileage, and better grip to the vehicle. They are safe at high speeds upto 190 km/h. They also offer better comfort and high fuel efficiency. Thus, they are now branded as ‘T’ rated. CEAT makes 11% of the production in the car tyre industry and 22% of the production in the utility vehicle tyre industry. "



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Viper

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by viper

@ Samurai - Let me add that the brand/model of tyre plays a major role in the ride quality and not the size alone.

I don't deny that. However, how does one know which tyre will give the best ride quality without using it. Not many have upgraded Santro to 175 or 185, at least none in this forum. Also, ride quality is relative, the opinion differs on what is good enough or great ride quality. Therefore, most of us play safe and suggest what we can quantify. If you reduce too far from the stock profile, the ride is bound to suffer and handling is bound to improve. With certain combination of brand/model of tyres may be it can be compensated, but we can't be certain until many members share their own experiences of such experiments. With Baleno I moved from 165/80R13 to 195/60R14 with confidence because I saw many people who had done that.

But in the case of Santro, how can we confidently suggest 185/175 width or 55/50 profile saying softer tyres can fix it? How can we ask somebody to take that 10-15K rupees gamble?

You can say it because you have first hand experience with 175/60, but I can't say it yet.

[Shan2nu]

I feel 165/60 R14 would be the best option here. If you want a 175mm tyre then, better not change the wheel size. Use 175/60 R13 instead.

Shan2nu

[Mpower]

Dosent the Santro already have a choppy ride? esp in the rear

[viper]

But in the case of Santro, how can we confidently suggest 185/175 width or 55/50 profile saying softer tyres can fix it? How can we ask somebody to take that 10-15K rupees gamble?

You can say it because you have first hand experience with 175/60, but I can't say it yet.[/quote]


Hey,

I've had first hand experience with 185/60/13 as well. That is also superb but that was in the frist generation santro and used to touch the inner wheel arch in the front on full turns. I had alloys on that car. If you ask any reputed tyre shop who has done lots of tyre upgrades they will all recommend 175/60/13 as a overall package.

Viper

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by viper

I've had first hand experience with 185/60/13 as well. That is also superb but that was in the frist generation santro and used to touch the inner wheel arch in the front on full turns. I had alloys on that car. If you ask any reputed tyre shop who has done lots of tyre upgrades they will all recommend 175/60/13 as a overall package.
Viper

But, doesn't that depend on what a customer wants? Better ride or better handling...
The thread starter hasn't mentioned any such requirements.

[viper]

Originally Posted by Samurai

But, doesn't that depend on what a customer wants? Better ride or better handling...
The thread starter hasn't mentioned any such requirements.

I'm sorry boss, You are right. lets end this discussion.

Viper

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by viper

I'm sorry boss, You are right. lets end this discussion.

Viper

Hope you didn't take offence. I was suggesting 165/65R13 tubeless merely because it improved both ride & handling in my case. In team-BHP we normally tend to assume every member wants handling over comfort, but some do prefer ride comfort over handling. That's why I was wary of suggesting 175 or 185. Let's wait for the original poster to clarify his requirement.

[viper]

None taken. There's no point in going on since a lot also has to do with the condition of the cars suspension, condition of tyres and what the owner wants. So to get back to the two inquiries:

@max8791 - 1> not recommended it would touch.
2> not really depends on the overall size of the upgrade as in rim size and profile.
3> that would be a good idea.

@ jkdas - 1> no only the looks.
2> alloys with slightly broader tyres and a lower profile answered below in the other posts.
3> The tyre shops take back the old tyres however do not expect more than 50% value.

Viper

[Samurai]

Snap of the alloys of my Santro...

[speedsatya]

Originally Posted by Samurai

In Bangalore we have only one kind of road, BAD. Surely you must have noticed by now...

havent driven much inside bangalore ...but the roads look so good...much better than mumbai..except for the bannerghatta rd...

[Abhay]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Just upgraded my wife's Santro Xing Automatic to 165/65R13 Hankook Optimos on Aura alloys.
The exact alloy model is as follows, except it is of a darker tint.

Nice ones...they are exact same ones that I have on my Indica

Those particular alloys do make these bulky looking cars a little more elegant though ...what do you think?

[.anshuman]

i have 205/60r13 bridgestone potenzas on 6j alloys on my indica and there is not much difference in fuel consumption and beleive me the car feels rock steady on highways,and on a clear road the brakes would shame any car without abs.