[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by predatorwheelz

I sincerely believe there is some factual backing up to what you said. Some test result, or some documentation where this has been proved. In the interest of the forum, we'd like to see it.

This is my experience based on owning two sets of Yokohama (C.Drives) and Michelin (MXTE and XM1) each. I evaluated C.Drives and A.Drives for my purchase and they seem to have similar construction and finish with A.Drives being more economy oriented. One just has to see the finish in a Michelin tire to appreciate the quality of construction - every edge finished to perfection with no rubber stubs sticking out anywhere. They also required small to none weights in balancing (the Yokos required more weight) when they were fitted, thereby implying better balance and rubber distribution.

On longevity :
The C.Drives have suffered multiple sidewall events (easily punctured in the sidewall in one tire and sidewall burst over a sharp edge on another tire). The Michelins, even when they were used over much rougher patches compared to the C.Drives, lasted all through their life w/o even a scratch on the sidewall. Note that the reviews given below from a UK/Australian site will not be able to confirm this, given our vastly different road conditions :

On Grip :

The C.Drives have a better grip and handling than A.Drives. significantly so as seen in the Yoko positioning below http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ml#post2022454

Now My experience is that C.Drives are marginally better than Xm1 in grip and hence my suggestion that the A.Drive and Xm1 will have similar grip or will have a marginal difference.

I am unsure if there is enough documentation available but one can check out for some public opinion . Reviews change drastically from site to site and hence as someone who has driven more than 200000 kms and experienced nearly 6 tire sets, I have started to form my own opinion on the brands.

Yokohama A Drive | the Yokohama A Drive reviewed and rated | the online tyre guide

Yokohama C Drive | the Yokohama C Drive reviewed and rated | the online tyre guide

Michelin Energy XM2 | the Michelin Energy XM2 reviewed and rated | the online tyre guide
Yokohama A.drive Passenger & Light Commercial Tyre Reviews Australia www.yokohama.com.au
Yokohama C.drive AC01 Passenger & Light Commercial Tyre Reviews Australia www.yokohama.com.au
Yokohama A.drive Passenger & Light Commercial Tyre Reviews Australia www.yokohama.com.au

[nura]

Sorry Tyre Gurus! Some tough questions ahead.
Q1. Which would be the best combination from the following options & why?
a. 165/65 R13 tubeless tyres on stock 4” width steel pressed rims (min rim width recommended for this tyre is 4.5”). Have this combination for last 3 years & 35K km & have noticed some cornering instability.
b. 165/65 R13 tubeless on 5.5” width, ET 38 Hijoin alloys (stock rims are ET 46 AFAIK, so a difference of 8mm)
c. 165/65 R13 tubeless on 5.5” width, ET 35 Neo alloys (11mm difference in ET)
d. 155/70 R13 tubeless on stock rims
e. Believe the Hyundai dealer & wait for Hyundai alloys for Santro to come in Sep
Q2. Can you recommend a few good brands of 165/65 & 155/70 R13 tubeless tyres? Am looking for mix of looks, comfort, handling & noiselessness.
Q4. What is the wheel bore diameter of the Santro Zip Plus (1.1L engine, 2002 model)?
Q5. Bore dia of Neo alloys meant for Santro is 60.1. Will spigot-locating rings be needed? Are these available?
Q6. Bore dia of Hijoin alloys not mentioned on saimagwheels website. Any idea of bore dia H184, 253 & 273 models?
Thanks a ton in advance.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by nura

Sorry Tyre Gurus! Some tough questions ahead.
Q1. Which would be the best combination from the following options & why?
a. 165/65 R13 tubeless tyres on stock 4” width steel pressed rims (min rim width recommended for this tyre is 4.5”). Have this combination for last 3 years & 35K km & have noticed some cornering instability.
b. 165/65 R13 tubeless on 5.5” width, ET 38 Hijoin alloys (stock rims are ET 46 AFAIK, so a difference of 8mm)
c. 165/65 R13 tubeless on 5.5” width, ET 35 Neo alloys (11mm difference in ET)
d. 155/70 R13 tubeless on stock rims
e. Believe the Hyundai dealer & wait for Hyundai alloys for Santro to come in Sep.

Best VFM combo
Accent steel rims + 155/70-13 or 165/65-13 tires

Originally Posted by nura

Q2. Can you recommend a few good brands of 165/65 & 155/70 R13 tubeless tyres? Am looking for mix of looks, comfort, handling & noiselessness..

Yokohama A drives
Apollo Aceleres
Bridgestone Turanza ER60

Originally Posted by nura

Q4. What is the wheel bore diameter of the Santro Zip Plus (1.1L engine, 2002 model)?
Q5. Bore dia of Neo alloys meant for Santro is 60.1. Will spigot-locating rings be needed? Are these available?
Q6. Bore dia of Hijoin alloys not mentioned on saimagwheels website. Any idea of bore dia H184, 253 & 273 models?
Thanks a ton in advance.

Someone else can answer this. I can't help you on this.

[nura]

Thanks for your reply. Is the Accent rim width 5"? Any idea about its offset?
The Hyundai dealer is selling Accent rims for 804 & (presumably 1" narrower) Santro ones for 852!

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by nura

Thanks for your reply. Is the Accent rim width 5"? Any idea about its offset?
The Hyundai dealer is selling Accent rims for 804 & (presumably 1" narrower) Santro ones for 852!

Accent rims are 5j. Offset is 38 or 40.
Don't goto the dealers for rims, try local tire dealers, you might just hit a sweet deal.

[nura]

Great, thanks! Yes, the last time got new OEM Santro rims from tyre dealer for 500 each. Hyundai sevice centre wanted 1000.

[genopv]

Hi Bhpians!
I'm looking at changing my Santro Xing XO tires to Michelin XM2 from the stock tires. I'm looking at up sizing to 165 from 155.
Have couple of questions:
1. how do I find the rim size (4j / 5j) - from some of the threads, I infer that I would need 5j for 165?
2. which are the good economical alloy wheels in the market now? and any authentic shop recommendation in Bangalore?

TIA - Venkat.

[lurker]

Get the Mitsubishi Lancer rims from tyre shops that stock up on old rims in exchange for alloys. Those rims are 13" and 5.5J.

[zeri]

Hi Gurus,

For my Santro Xing, I would like to upgrade from current 155/70R13 MRF ZVTS. What are my VFM options ? retain current 155/70R13 on stock rims or upgrade to 165 size on accent rims ? Any other VFM tyre brands ?
The local Apollo dealer suggested Apollo Accelere 165/65R13 and 165/70R13 Apollo Amazer (claims that it is VFM used by indicabs).

[RJFM]

Hey Guys,

Would like to change my current BRIDGESTONE santro car tyres to HANKOOK optimo. - The dealer has offered me a price of Rs. 3000/- per tyre.

Any views on Hankook tyres please

[joybhowmik]

Changed my 2003 Santro Xing's shoes today @ ~Rs 9400 -

4 new Goodyear Tubeless GPS2 (Size P 155/70R 13 75S) exchanged for 4 tubetype Bridgestone S322 circa 2003.
Price included balancing + 1 alignment now - and another complimentary one about a month later.
The stepney remains a Bridgestone tubetype S322 dtd Dec 2009 (not changed)

A much better ride now, the potholes are much more bearable.

[metropolis]

I'm have a 1999 Santro and looking for changing the rims to the same original stock ones.

From where can i source the same and how much it should cost?

Guys, pl advice since i also need to change all 4 tires immediately

A quick response would be highly appreciated

Thanks

[rajiv0]

@metropolis: You should be able to get rims at any Hyundai service center and may cost about Rs500

[adilj]

Hi,

Have to change the Tyres on my 2010 Santro.

Can some one please suggest the suitable Tyre Specs and Brand also if possible the location from where I can get these(I live in Mumbai) and what I should be careful about while purchasing.

(Noob in buying tyers)

Thanks in Advnace

[metropolis]

Originally Posted by rajiv0

@metropolis: You should be able to get rims at any Hyundai service center and may cost about Rs500

Thanks rajiv for the info

Checked with couple of dealers and authorized service outlets. Most of them have stated to be out of stock citing this to be an old model

However got a call today from a service center based in Faridabad quoting the price as 4k for all four.

Is he asking a fair price?