Michelin XM1+ or Continental CPC2 for OHC Upsize?

raul · 26th December 2009, 00:04

Hi Folks, so here is a bit of a dilemma, I am currently running on Michelin XM 175/70/13 OHC 1.5 2003 Model, have probably 1000km to go max on 2 front tyres, rear tyres are in better condition. I know I shouldn't but have routinely done 160 on these tyres, they are ideal at 140, at 160 plus you can feel the car wandering.

So when it came to replacing tyres upsize was definitely on and decided on Michelin XM1+ 195/60/14, I don't particularly fancy buying alloys but apparently these size tyres won't fit on 14 inch rims so have to buy alloys.

The dilemma is Saifee has quoted Rs 4400 firm for the XM1+, while Conti CPC2 is available at Rs 3700. So what do the tyre gurus think, which is better, high speed handling is most important followed by comfort and silence.

I was all set on XM1+but am seeing reviews online giving the Conti CPC2 higher ratings than Michelin Primacy LC, and Energy is a lower grade than Primacy and now CPC2 is available significantly cheaper than XM1+. So CPC2 should be a no brainer?

Nikhilb2008 · 26th December 2009, 11:30

Conti without a doubt. It's waay better than the XM1+. And when you consider the price, it's a no brainer.

Comfort will almost equal. However, the CPC2 will be a little bit noisier than the XM1+. This can be solved by playing music in your car upon which you will not notice anything.

ankit_chd · 26th December 2009, 15:06

Hi Nikhil,

Ankit here again going to bug you a lil more

I'll check with my local dealer if he can arrange Maxxis MA Z1.

What other tyre options do i have in 15" in 195/50 R15 and 195/55 R15 for ~4K (yes budget increased a lil)

raul · 26th December 2009, 15:07

Thanks Nikhil, a little bit more noise doesn't matter, ohc is not exactly the quietest car as long as the handling at high speeds and aquaplaning is good.

Forum consensus was on the XM1+ for a longish time but I guess the contis change things a bit, and their with their decent pricing seals the deal, shouldn't Michelin be responding to this, most folks will now go for conti then.

iraghava · 26th December 2009, 17:37

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Originally Posted by ankit_chd

What other tyre options do i have in 15" in 195/50 R15 and 195/55 R15 for ~4K (yes budget increased a lil)

Look at Maxxis or other grey market options. None of the officially present companies will give you that size under 4k.

Quote:

Originally Posted by raul

Forum consensus was on the XM1+ for a longish time but I guess the contis change things a bit, and their with their decent pricing seals the deal, shouldn't Michelin be responding to this, most folks will now go for conti then.

Michelin is still stuck on their 'premium' horse Raul. I don't see them changing their strategy any time soon. Add to that poor marketing by Continental and apart from the forum, they really aren't much of a threat as of yet.

ankit_chd · 26th December 2009, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

Look at Maxxis or other grey market options. None of the officially present companies will give you that size under 4k.

Are Maxxis good ?? I dont want tires to be noisy . What should be budget then if not 4k ? How much more ??

abhibh · 26th December 2009, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ankit_chd

Are Maxxis good ?? I dont want tires to be noisy . What should be budget then if not 4k ? How much more ??

Maxxis are good just pray you can get them for good price in your budget.

Well you can get Imported Bridgestone for way less in that size

Recently bought Bridgestone Turanza 195 R15 for 4500/tyre with B/W

So i guess CPC2 & something from Yoko must be in that category.

raul · 26th December 2009, 22:50

Thanks Ishan, that settles it then. Both tyre gurus Iraghava and Nikhil have weighed in and given a thumbs up for the Conti CPC2 without reservations.

I guess Michelin need to rethink the pricing of the XM1+. Thanks guys.

abhibh · 27th December 2009, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by raul

Thanks Ishan, that settles it then. Both tyre gurus Iraghava and Nikhil have weighed in and given a thumbs up for the Conti CPC2 without reservations.

I guess Michelin need to rethink the pricing of the XM1+. Thanks guys.

I have conti and i can vouch for comfort level and grip on dry roads

No idea of Road noise as i have music on all the time. Yet to test them on wet roads.

yuv · 30th December 2009, 16:31

Hi Raul,

Im curious, why have you decided on this size 195/60/14 instead of 195/50/15.

Thanks,
Yuvi

djay99 · 21st July 2010, 14:57

What is the cost of conti cpc2 in 185/65-14? and conti dealer name in bangalore?

Nikhilb2008 · 21st July 2010, 15:04

No CPC2 in 185/65 R14.

djay99 · 21st July 2010, 15:25

Nikhil,
Is 185/60-14 or 195/55-15 available?
What would be the cost?

djay99 · 21st July 2010, 15:37

I visited conti webiste and saw eco contact 3 available in 185/65-14.
How is overall rating compared to Yoko A-drive or CPC2?

Nikhilb2008 · 22nd July 2010, 14:02

CEC3 is not as good as CPC2 obviously. CPC2 is available in 195/55 R15. Not in 185/60 R14.

CEC is as good as xm1+, A Drive, etc...

26th December 2009, 00:04	#1
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 372 Times	Michelin XM1+ or Continental CPC2 for OHC Upsize? Hi Folks, so here is a bit of a dilemma, I am currently running on Michelin XM 175/70/13 OHC 1.5 2003 Model, have probably 1000km to go max on 2 front tyres, rear tyres are in better condition. I know I shouldn't but have routinely done 160 on these tyres, they are ideal at 140, at 160 plus you can feel the car wandering. So when it came to replacing tyres upsize was definitely on and decided on Michelin XM1+ 195/60/14, I don't particularly fancy buying alloys but apparently these size tyres won't fit on 14 inch rims so have to buy alloys. The dilemma is Saifee has quoted Rs 4400 firm for the XM1+, while Conti CPC2 is available at Rs 3700. So what do the tyre gurus think, which is better, high speed handling is most important followed by comfort and silence. I was all set on XM1+but am seeing reviews online giving the Conti CPC2 higher ratings than Michelin Primacy LC, and Energy is a lower grade than Primacy and now CPC2 is available significantly cheaper than XM1+. So CPC2 should be a no brainer?
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26th December 2009, 11:30	#2
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	Conti without a doubt. It's waay better than the XM1+. And when you consider the price, it's a no brainer. Comfort will almost equal. However, the CPC2 will be a little bit noisier than the XM1+. This can be solved by playing music in your car upon which you will not notice anything.
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26th December 2009, 15:06	#3
ankit_chd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 262 Thanked: 28 Times	Hi Nikhil, Ankit here again going to bug you a lil more I'll check with my local dealer if he can arrange Maxxis MA Z1. What other tyre options do i have in 15" in 195/50 R15 and 195/55 R15 for ~4K (yes budget increased a lil)
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26th December 2009, 15:07	#4
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 372 Times	Thanks Nikhil, a little bit more noise doesn't matter, ohc is not exactly the quietest car as long as the handling at high speeds and aquaplaning is good. Forum consensus was on the XM1+ for a longish time but I guess the contis change things a bit, and their with their decent pricing seals the deal, shouldn't Michelin be responding to this, most folks will now go for conti then.
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26th December 2009, 22:50	#8
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 372 Times	Thanks Ishan, that settles it then. Both tyre gurus Iraghava and Nikhil have weighed in and given a thumbs up for the Conti CPC2 without reservations. I guess Michelin need to rethink the pricing of the XM1+. Thanks guys.
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30th December 2009, 16:31	#10
yuv BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 165 Thanked: 76 Times	Hi Raul, Im curious, why have you decided on this size 195/60/14 instead of 195/50/15. Thanks, Yuvi
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21st July 2010, 14:57	#11
djay99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	What is the cost of conti cpc2 in 185/65-14? and conti dealer name in bangalore?
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21st July 2010, 15:04	#12
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	No CPC2 in 185/65 R14.
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21st July 2010, 15:25	#13
djay99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	Nikhil, Is 185/60-14 or 195/55-15 available? What would be the cost?
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21st July 2010, 15:37	#14
djay99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	I visited conti webiste and saw eco contact 3 available in 185/65-14. How is overall rating compared to Yoko A-drive or CPC2?
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22nd July 2010, 14:02	#15
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	CEC3 is not as good as CPC2 obviously. CPC2 is available in 195/55 R15. Not in 185/60 R14. CEC is as good as xm1+, A Drive, etc...
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