NHC Tyre upgrade

cuttingcrew · 17th February 2010, 11:20

I know there are a few threads on this, but I had specific queries. So if this needs to be merged with some existing thread, please go ahead.

I drive NHC (77 bhp) with the stock configuration, 175/65/r14 on Goodyear. This tyre is bad, but I still survived for 24K KM. I am now thinking about alloys and new tyres. My problems/questions are

1. The rear wheels tend to lock at moderatly high speed breaking. There is no ABS, but can I reduce the effect of it (not the locking, but the effect of locking). It becomes quiet frightening for the passengers though I have never lost control. Any other suggestion (?) apart from tyre upgrade is also welcomed.
2. The right front tyre seems to weather more than the left one. Is this common? I was trying to climb a steep slope once (and I failed with this car), and there was burning rubber smell from the right tyre but not from the left.
3. I have decided on 185/65/r14 (ride comfort) though 185/60/r14 has less speedo error, but not on the make. Should I go for r15 though I dont feel comfortable about it?

To summerize, I need some confience while braking and high speed turning. Ride comfort is also important.

Akshay1234 · 17th February 2010, 11:24

going by what you want go for 195/60 r14. it is the best combination. there are many options available in that size depending on the budget.

wildsdi5530 · 17th February 2010, 11:27

195/60 R14 is overkill for the NHC Gxi. For the Vtec, it's good. 185/65 R14 would be right for comfort and 185/60 R14 would be good for handling. Go for the Michelin XM1+.

cuttingcrew · 17th February 2010, 11:37

Which is better for comfort 195/60/r14 Vs 185/65/r14?

What about the other questions?

Nikhilb2008 · 17th February 2010, 11:53

You cant do anything about the braking. Just get better tyres and hope for the best.

185/65 R14 is better for comfort.

195/60 R14 is too much for the 77bhp.

15" is totally pointless. Will ruin your ride quality and you will risk more damage to your tyres. You will also spend extra money for no reason.

There is no reason for oyur right front tyre to wear out more. You may not have got proper Alignment and wheel rotation done.

Twiny · 2nd March 2010, 16:44

Done 800km on 195/60/R14, XM1+ after upgrading from S322 on my NHC Vtec
Difference noticed:

1.Steering seems to be got little heavier; adds some life to steering here
2.No more understeering when taken to winding roads Ghat section
3.Feels to be more cushioned now

Maybe I will get to know it better after another thousand kms

Twiny · 22nd March 2010, 13:09

Now its 2000+ on XM1+, I see the ER60 offered more steering feedback. But the comfort offered by XM1+ gives me more value. If had at least 50% in city driving, I won't recommend in going for 195.
I was little softer on my new tires till now, lets see how it goes

wildsdi5530 · 11th May 2010, 00:05

Why wouldn't you recommend 195?

manyu · 11th May 2010, 00:11

i have the Bridgestone AR10 Successor of ER60 185/60r14

It have so much better feedback.. and the handling has improves quite a lot .

Straight line high speed stability make you much confident.

Crossing 110 earlier on the nhc on stock tires felt very risky, Now even at 140-150 i feel planted like gum.

Twiny · 12th May 2010, 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildsdi5530

Why wouldn't you recommend 195?

After ~4000km with 195, even the city driving also good... don't know whether the initial sluggishness was due to running-in / I had soft pedal with the new tyres

wildsdi5530 · 6th December 2021, 20:49

Bumping up an old thread. For Users who're still stuck with the Old New Honda City.

Last 2 tyres were Michelin XM and XM2, both sized at 185/65 R14. No complaints at all, and car's now run 1,58K Kms.

Now had 2 punctures in the last 1 month, tyres are worn out now, and Michelin doesn't seem to want my money. So ended up at Madhus tyres in Wilson Garden, Bengaluru. Contacted Mr. Mohsin at Nikhil's suggestion. The new showroom (2 years old now) is beautiful and airy. Belated best wishes.

Big problem now, 185/65 R14 has become Rare. Options shortlisted were Pirelli C6 175/65 R14. these seemed too tiny next to the Michelins which were removed.

Apollo 4GS were available, but I remember reading about issues in this tyre. Finally went with Apollo Amazer 4G life.

These tyres are 175/70 R14. They offer 2 years unconditional warranty and 5 years limited warranty. Have driven about 150 kms in past 2 days and here are first driving impressions compared to the old Michelin XM2s.
- Road noise is reduced
- Bumps are felt more
- Ground clearance is the same, still scraping on the new bump on ring road Gorguntapalya rail overbridge.

Will report further after a few more days of driving.

17th February 2010, 11:20	#1
cuttingcrew BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 98 Thanked: Once	NHC Tyre upgrade I know there are a few threads on this, but I had specific queries. So if this needs to be merged with some existing thread, please go ahead. I drive NHC (77 bhp) with the stock configuration, 175/65/r14 on Goodyear. This tyre is bad, but I still survived for 24K KM. I am now thinking about alloys and new tyres. My problems/questions are 1. The rear wheels tend to lock at moderatly high speed breaking. There is no ABS, but can I reduce the effect of it (not the locking, but the effect of locking). It becomes quiet frightening for the passengers though I have never lost control. Any other suggestion (?) apart from tyre upgrade is also welcomed. 2. The right front tyre seems to weather more than the left one. Is this common? I was trying to climb a steep slope once (and I failed with this car), and there was burning rubber smell from the right tyre but not from the left. 3. I have decided on 185/65/r14 (ride comfort) though 185/60/r14 has less speedo error, but not on the make. Should I go for r15 though I dont feel comfortable about it? To summerize, I need some confience while braking and high speed turning. Ride comfort is also important.
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17th February 2010, 11:24	#2
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	going by what you want go for 195/60 r14. it is the best combination. there are many options available in that size depending on the budget.
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17th February 2010, 11:27	#3
wildsdi5530 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,434 Thanked: 2,046 Times	195/60 R14 is overkill for the NHC Gxi. For the Vtec, it's good. 185/65 R14 would be right for comfort and 185/60 R14 would be good for handling. Go for the Michelin XM1+.
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17th February 2010, 11:37	#4
cuttingcrew BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 98 Thanked: Once	Which is better for comfort 195/60/r14 Vs 185/65/r14? What about the other questions?
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17th February 2010, 11:53	#5
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	You cant do anything about the braking. Just get better tyres and hope for the best. 185/65 R14 is better for comfort. 195/60 R14 is too much for the 77bhp. 15" is totally pointless. Will ruin your ride quality and you will risk more damage to your tyres. You will also spend extra money for no reason. There is no reason for oyur right front tyre to wear out more. You may not have got proper Alignment and wheel rotation done.
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2nd March 2010, 16:44	#6
Twiny BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cochin-Bangalore Posts: 311 Thanked: 50 Times View My Garage	Done 800km on 195/60/R14, XM1+ after upgrading from S322 on my NHC Vtec Difference noticed: 1.Steering seems to be got little heavier; adds some life to steering here 2.No more understeering when taken to winding roads Ghat section 3.Feels to be more cushioned now Maybe I will get to know it better after another thousand kms
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22nd March 2010, 13:09	#7
Twiny BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cochin-Bangalore Posts: 311 Thanked: 50 Times View My Garage	Now its 2000+ on XM1+, I see the ER60 offered more steering feedback. But the comfort offered by XM1+ gives me more value. If had at least 50% in city driving, I won't recommend in going for 195. I was little softer on my new tires till now, lets see how it goes
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11th May 2010, 00:05	#8
wildsdi5530 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,434 Thanked: 2,046 Times	Why wouldn't you recommend 195?
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11th May 2010, 00:11	#9
manyu BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moon Posts: 70 Thanked: 3 Times	i have the Bridgestone AR10 Successor of ER60 185/60r14 It have so much better feedback.. and the handling has improves quite a lot . Straight line high speed stability make you much confident. Crossing 110 earlier on the nhc on stock tires felt very risky, Now even at 140-150 i feel planted like gum.
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6th December 2021, 20:49	#11
wildsdi5530 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,434 Thanked: 2,046 Times	Re: NHC Tyre upgrade Bumping up an old thread. For Users who're still stuck with the Old New Honda City. Last 2 tyres were Michelin XM and XM2, both sized at 185/65 R14. No complaints at all, and car's now run 1,58K Kms. Now had 2 punctures in the last 1 month, tyres are worn out now, and Michelin doesn't seem to want my money. So ended up at Madhus tyres in Wilson Garden, Bengaluru. Contacted Mr. Mohsin at Nikhil's suggestion. The new showroom (2 years old now) is beautiful and airy. Belated best wishes. Big problem now, 185/65 R14 has become Rare. Options shortlisted were Pirelli C6 175/65 R14. these seemed too tiny next to the Michelins which were removed. Apollo 4GS were available, but I remember reading about issues in this tyre. Finally went with Apollo Amazer 4G life. These tyres are 175/70 R14. They offer 2 years unconditional warranty and 5 years limited warranty. Have driven about 150 kms in past 2 days and here are first driving impressions compared to the old Michelin XM2s. - Road noise is reduced - Bumps are felt more - Ground clearance is the same, still scraping on the new bump on ring road Gorguntapalya rail overbridge. Will report further after a few more days of driving.
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