[Behemoth]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

I popped in to the Michelin Tyre Empire shop nearby today. They also stock and sell other makes of tyres.
They told me about one Bridgestone Tyre which is available and can if necessary be ordered.

Bridgestone 215/60/16 95H ER370 Tubeless. Product Code: PSR0325/337/409. Rs 8250/- each.
Just FYI.

Hi Shankar,

I had also checked these out earlier, and these are car tyres from their Turanza series. They have typically a UTQG (UTQG is a global tyre grading system developed by Dept of Transport, US for rating tyres on Treadlife, traction and Temperature rating) of 140 A A (treadwear, traction, temperature) and are very soft tyres. Comparatively, the stock Goodyears are 240 A A. The Bridgestones may not last very long if used on our Yeti's. We need at least tyres with 400 A A. Yoko AT/S are 500 A A If I recall and should last very long.
You will find most tyres marked with the UTQG ratings.

You can find the UTQG ratings for most tyres on Tirerack (I have also selected the correct size). Now to only look for these tyres in India!
Tire Search Results

Regards,
Behemoth

[shankar.balan]

Hey!

Thank you for the clarifications.

I guess over the next year or two when I shall need to start considering what to do in terms of a tyre change/ upgrade, there should be some more options available in this odd size.
However, suppose one were to consider a marginal upsize then what would be the right size to go for? Perhaps 215/65/16 or something of the sort or would it not be ok for this vehicle in terms of warranty and so on? Would such an upsize touch the wheel wells while making a turn?

Inputs on this would be highly appreciated from a purely academic interest as of now!
Thanks
SB

Originally Posted by Behemoth

Hi Shankar,

I had also checked these out earlier, and these are car tyres from their Turanza series. They have typically a UTQG (UTQG is a global tyre grading system developed by Dept of Transport, US for rating tyres on Treadlife, traction and Temperature rating) of 140 A A (treadwear, traction, temperature) and are very soft tyres. Comparatively, the stock Goodyears are 240 A A. The Bridgestones may not last very long if used on our Yeti's. We need at least tyres with 400 A A. Yoko AT/S are 540 A A If I recall and should last very long.
You will find most tyres marked with the UTQG ratings.

You can find the UTQG ratings for most tyres on Tirerack (I have also selected the correct size). Now to only look for these tyres in India!
Tire Search Results

Regards,
Behemoth

[Behemoth]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Hey!

Thank you for the clarifications.

I guess over the next year or two when I shall need to start considering what to do in terms of a tyre change/ upgrade, there should be some more options available in this odd size.
However, suppose one were to consider a marginal upsize then what would be the right size to go for? Perhaps 215/65/16 or something of the sort or would it not be ok for this vehicle in terms of warranty and so on? Would such an upsize touch the wheel wells while making a turn?

Inputs on this would be highly appreciated from a purely academic interest as of now!
Thanks
SB

Hi Shankar,

With regards to tyre upsizing, a variation of +/- 2.5% is normally usable, with the same suspension and within safety limits. For the Yeti, some suitable sizes (upsize / downsize) are:
205/65 R16
225/55 R16
225/60 R16

You can use this tyre size comparator for checking the differences;
Tyre Calculator - Alloy Wheels - Specialist supplier of alloy wheels and tyres packages, Fast Delivery, Buy Online.

Regards,
Behemoth

[shankar.balan]

Thanks a lot again.
But dont you think 215's would be better overall than 205's?
Also, is there any single "tough, semi off road sort of tyre" available in this market for the Yeti, which can take the beating that our daily driving roads hand out to our vehicles?

Originally Posted by Behemoth

Hi Shankar,

With regards to tyre upsizing, a variation of +/- 2.5% is normally usable, with the same suspension and within safety limits. For the Yeti, some suitable sizes (upsize / downsize) are:
205/65 R16
225/55 R16
225/60 R16

You can use this tyre size comparator for checking the differences;
Tyre Calculator - Alloy Wheels - Specialist supplier of alloy wheels and tyres packages, Fast Delivery, Buy Online.

Regards,
Behemoth

[Behemoth]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Thanks a lot again.
But dont you think 215's would be better overall than 205's?
Also, is there any single "tough, semi off road sort of tyre" available in this market for the Yeti, which can take the beating that our daily driving roads hand out to our vehicles?

The only issue is that 215/65 R16 takes the variation to 3.25%,which is outside the safe limit and can cause suspension and engine related issues. I also checked with Skoda and they said this size will invalidate the suspension warranty, hence had to exclude this size from my list.
Currently the two contenders which I have found are:
Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/55 R16
Apollo Acelere Max 225/60 R16
I am more keen on the Apollos as they should be able to take rougher treatment and also have a higher 60% sidewall profile, so I would gain 6mm in GC, while in the case of the Pirellis, I would lose around 6mm in GC due to the smaller side profile. Also, based on the experience of some other members with Pirelli, they also have soft sidewalls and can get damaged if used regularly on potholed roads.

The one perfect tyre which, as per me, would be ideal for the Yeti would be Michelin Latitude Tour HP in the stock size 215/60 R16. Unfortunately this size is not available in India , but it is available internationally.
I have time till June to wait for more options to be available, as I am planning my Leh trip for Jun 2012, and hopefully with new tyres, else we will take the XUV to Leh.

Regards,
Behemoth

[shankar.balan]

Thanks again!
I will go with your research Behemoth.
In fact I had bought a set of Apollo Accelere's for my Dad's car last year and those are truly excellent in terms of both ride comfort, toughness as well as softness.
I like the idea about 225/60/16. This will be up from our existing 215/60/16 and if it results in a 6mm increase in GC then that is a clear plus point.
However, Im still not sure exactly how tough these tyres will be when compared to my old Bridgestone Duelers!

Originally Posted by Behemoth

The only issue is that 215/65 R16 takes the variation to 3.25%,which is outside the safe limit and can cause suspension and engine related issues. I also checked with Skoda and they said this size will invalidate the suspension warranty, hence had to exclude this size from my list.
Currently the two contenders which I have found are:
Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/55 R16
Apollo Acelere Max 225/60 R16
I am more keen on the Apollos as they should be able to take rougher treatment and also have a higher 60% sidewall profile, so I would gain 6mm in GC, while in the case of the Pirellis, I would lose around 6mm in GC due to the smaller side profile. Also, based on the experience of some other members with Pirelli, they also have soft sidewalls and can get damaged if used regularly on potholed roads.

The one perfect tyre which, as per me, would be ideal for the Yeti would be Michelin Latitude Tour HP in the stock size 215/60 R16. Unfortunately this size is not available in India , but it is available internationally.

Regards,
Behemoth

[shankar.balan]

This Michelin Shop chap told me about Michelin Latitude Tour HP (sounds like a high performance golf ball) - 215/65/16. Rs. 10875 per tyre.
But I would like to consider what you said about 225 60 16 size which I guess would be the right upsize/ upgrade whenever it becomes necessary.

[shankar.balan]

Some more research done in Chennai at a Yokohama shop in Besant Nagar. There is no AT/ HT tread type available in Yokos also in this size for the Yeti. All the tyres available are of the high performance, road going, car type (comfort + luxury).
However, the OEM size is available 215 60 16 as also 225 60 16.
Just FYI

[Behemoth]

On a recent visit to a Tyre showroom, found one more variant from Bridgestone which has been introduced in the stock size - EP100 Ecopia, but this too is on-road tyres, with Low rolling resistance. The UTQG was Treadwear 220, Traction B and Temp A.
Does'nt really fit our requirements, but good to see more options being introduced in the stock size. I think MRF also has plans to introduce Wanderer in this size, but don't know when they will come out.

Regards,
Behemoth

[Behemoth]

For my Yeti, which done close to 20 K Kms now, I am seriously considering changing the tyres and moving to a different size, preferably within the safe limit of 2.5% deviation.
I was also evaluating Tyre comfort predictions for the tyre change on the link:
TRC Calculator

and am getting the below results:
225/60 R16


215/65 R16


From my recent experience of upgrading the tyres on our new Laura from Goodyear NCT5 tyres to Michelin Primacy LC, we have found a 40% reduction in road noise and a 20% improvement in comfort (my estimations!) which goes to show that the stock tyres were really bad. I did not upsize the tyres and went for the stock size only. The swapping of the Goodyear tyres with the Michelin tyres cost Rs 6900 (total for all 4 tyres, including balancing). It was well worth it and the new tyres are much better.

Now coming back to the Yeti, I am considering either the Apollo Accelere Maxx tyres in 225/60 R16 or the Michelin Primacy LC. In 215/65R 16 I am considering Michelin Latitude Tour HP or Yokohama Geolandar AT/S.

Any suggestions and feedback are welcome!

Regards,
Behemoth

[Santoshbhat]

Originally Posted by Behemoth

Now coming back to the Yeti, I am considering either the Apollo Accelere Maxx tyres in 225/60 R16 or the Michelin Primacy LC. In 215/65R 16 I am considering Michelin Latitude Tour HP or Yokohama Geolandar AT/S.

Any suggestions and feedback are welcome!

Regards,
Behemoth

Primacy LC has soft sidewalls and could be prone to damage on potholed roads. I have these tyres on my Laura and already I have had one tyre replaced under warranty for a sidewall bulge within 15,000 kms of running. This bulge developed after a 50 Km run through some not so good roads.

The grip, comfort, high speed stability, silence etc.. is awesome. But from my experience I find them to be a bit delicate in nature.

[shankar.balan]

Great!
You do your research and I will quietly follow suit as the need arises!
Also good to hear MRF Wanderers may come in this size - those are really tough beasts.
However, I would be interested in the Yoko Geolandar AT/S as per your post. This way I can take the Yeti more off road and handle the beastly Bangalore roads too with aplomb.

Originally Posted by Behemoth

For my Yeti, which done close to 20 K Kms now, I am seriously considering changing the tyres and moving to a different size, preferably within the safe limit of 2.5% deviation.
I was also evaluating Tyre comfort predictions for the tyre change on the link:
TRC Calculator

and am getting the below results:
225/60 R16
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215/65 R16
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From my recent experience of upgrading the tyres on our new Laura from Goodyear NCT5 tyres to Michelin Primacy LC, we have found a 40% reduction in road noise and a 20% improvement in comfort (my estimations!) which goes to show that the stock tyres were really bad. I did not upsize the tyres and went for the stock size only. The swapping of the Goodyear tyres with the Michelin tyres cost Rs 6900 (total for all 4 tyres, including balancing). It was well worth it and the new tyres are much better.

Now coming back to the Yeti, I am considering either the Apollo Accelere Maxx tyres in 225/60 R16 or the Michelin Primacy LC. In 215/65R 16 I am considering Michelin Latitude Tour HP or Yokohama Geolandar AT/S.

Any suggestions and feedback are welcome!

Regards,
Behemoth

[ssh1979]

My tyre dealer told me A/Ts are way too noisy. He succeeded in coaxing me out of it. But I was looking at a large size 31x10.5x15 tyre.

[Behemoth]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Great!
You do your research and I will quietly follow suit as the need arises!
Also good to hear MRF Wanderers may come in this size - those are really tough beasts.
However, I would be interested in the Yoko Geolandar AT/S as per your post. This way I can take the Yeti more off road and handle the beastly Bangalore roads too with aplomb.

Yes Yoko At/s are good but thet are noisy - this is the feedback on many yeti forums. Ideal choice for the Yeti would be Michelin latitude tour Hp if it is available in the correct size.

[Sumain]

Which is the right tyre choice to improve ride comfort is the primary consideration? Michelin Primacy LC? Or any other?
I use my Yeti about 100 km per day. Many times I am driver driven and I find it quite bouncy at the back on the OEM tyres, so much so that I prefer taking the Civic instead. (The Civic is running on Primacy LC).
Please advise.