Indian built/assembled classics

Stanher · 1st January 2011, 19:09

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

At the recently concluded Sportscraft rally to Khandala from Vashi, Harit brought out his Singer SM1500 (?). This delightfully quirky looking car was assembled in India, I was surprised to find out.

does it still have the Herald air-filter on??

SuperSelect · 1st January 2011, 23:43

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

At the recently concluded Sportscraft rally to Khandala from Vashi, Harit brought out his Singer SM1500 (?). This delightfully quirky looking car was assembled in India, I was surprised to find out. It bore a plate on the dash that said assembled and distributed by Dewar's garage, Calcutta.

Wow, this is the first time I'm seeing a car like this - probably very rare now, though assembled in India ?
Can we request Harit to honour us with some detailed photos ?

From the look of it, is the car 'pillarless' when both the front and rear doors are opened ?

samsag12 · 2nd January 2011, 11:00

Apparently Capt. Chauhan (Vintageman) also picked up a Singer a year before. I am reattaching a pic of the car.

wasif · 2nd January 2011, 11:41

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

PS - Harit, it really would be nice if you could wash the car the next time you bring it!

What and loose the barn find look .....the car looks much more interesting as is, a wash would take away from its charecter

Stanher · 6th February 2011, 18:15

'saw this Fiat at my local garage last week, not sure if its a Delight or a President.

The grille is of a President, so are the bumpers but then all other stuff are 1100 Delight.

Note the original 'grooveless' glass rubbers still intact!

The regn. is of the early 70s but then could be a re-registered delight too.

Only checking the comm. no. plate under the bonnet would help.

'looks like it was lying neglected for a while, going by the rust and state of the interior.

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Cyrus43 · 6th February 2011, 18:17

That is a Delite Grille not a president grille from the angle I can see.. This is a Delite with later bumpers most probably.

funkykar · 6th February 2011, 18:45

It clearly is President Grille! The car is surely a Delight with President grille and bumper.

samsag12 · 6th February 2011, 19:13

IMO it surely is a Fiat delight with some fittings borrowed from its later siblings such as the President grill, rims, bumpers et al. Also i think the Jewel lights, glove pocket lock came till delights as i have never seen a President with the same and not to forget the hard to find push button dicky lock.

Stanher · 6th February 2011, 20:10

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Originally Posted by samsag12

IMO it surely is a Fiat delight with some fittings borrowed from its later siblings such as the President grill, rims, bumpers et al. Also i think the Jewel lights, glove pocket lock came till delights as i have never seen a President with the same and not to forget the hard to find push button dicky lock.

Delights never came with the President type grille AFAIk, it is unique to the President (and the very early padmini that immediately followed it)

So I guess that solves the mystery- they needed to replace the grille and found a President one just by chance and fitted it. Maybe they thought it was a delight grille......or maybe they just didnt care.
The 'normal' rims came on the later Delights (post '68 or so) itself.

The bumpers were the delight ones until around '72 or so- but those models had a different meter.

So this has to be a late 60s delight with the bumpers changed.

samsag12 · 6th February 2011, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Stanher

Delights never came with the President type grille AFAIk, it is unique to the President (and the very early padmini that immediately followed it)

So I guess that solves the mystery- they needed to replace the grille and found a President one just by chance and fitted it. Maybe they thought it was a delight grille......or maybe they just didnt care.
The 'normal' rims came on the later Delights (post '68 or so) itself.
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Most probably they thought the grill to be ok as its a metal one. The common man just uses 2 words for this part which is a Plashtic and Metal.

And yes you are right about the Rims of this car. The last batch did came with collared hubs.

funkykar · 6th February 2011, 20:44

And.. Did President ever come with pressing type dicky lock? I feel no..

Stanher · 6th February 2011, 22:42

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Originally Posted by funkykar

And.. Did President ever come with pressing type dicky lock? I feel no..

Yup you're right about that....forgot to include, sorry!

samsag12 · 6th February 2011, 23:17

Shyam bhai you people are bit late as i already mentioned the Press type lock in my post #323.

Anyways this rightly confirms that its a Delight model and not a President one.

riteshpawar · 12th April 2011, 04:48

Anybody heard of a Premier SAB or a Safari still driving on roads of India ? Get some snaps on TBHP

Shreeram · 12th April 2011, 13:52

Here are the pics of the Fiat - Starline / Safari / Station Wagon.. We Owned, I think it was an Import.

I would Like to Get this Car Back to our Family if I get a Chance to..

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Not Blanking Out the Plates.. If anyone Finds this Car Let Me Know..

2nd January 2011, 11:00	#318
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics Apparently Capt. Chauhan (Vintageman) also picked up a Singer a year before. I am reattaching a pic of the car. Attached Thumbnails
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6th February 2011, 18:15	#320
Stanher Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,087 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics 'saw this Fiat at my local garage last week, not sure if its a Delight or a President. The grille is of a President, so are the bumpers but then all other stuff are 1100 Delight. Note the original 'grooveless' glass rubbers still intact! The regn. is of the early 70s but then could be a re-registered delight too. Only checking the comm. no. plate under the bonnet would help. 'looks like it was lying neglected for a while, going by the rust and state of the interior.
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6th February 2011, 18:17	#321
Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics That is a Delite Grille not a president grille from the angle I can see.. This is a Delite with later bumpers most probably.
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6th February 2011, 18:45	#322
funkykar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,635 Thanked: 6,611 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics It clearly is President Grille! The car is surely a Delight with President grille and bumper. Attached Thumbnails
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6th February 2011, 19:13	#323
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics IMO it surely is a Fiat delight with some fittings borrowed from its later siblings such as the President grill, rims, bumpers et al. Also i think the Jewel lights, glove pocket lock came till delights as i have never seen a President with the same and not to forget the hard to find push button dicky lock.
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6th February 2011, 20:44	#326
funkykar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,635 Thanked: 6,611 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics And.. Did President ever come with pressing type dicky lock? I feel no.. Attached Thumbnails
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6th February 2011, 23:17	#328
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics Shyam bhai you people are bit late as i already mentioned the Press type lock in my post #323. Anyways this rightly confirms that its a Delight model and not a President one.
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12th April 2011, 04:48	#329
riteshpawar BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 91 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Re: Indian built/assembled classics Anybody heard of a Premier SAB or a Safari still driving on roads of India ? Get some snaps on TBHP
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12th April 2011, 13:52	#330
Shreeram BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 386 Thanked: 198 Times	Re: Indian built/assembled classics Here are the pics of the Fiat - Starline / Safari / Station Wagon.. We Owned, I think it was an Import. I would Like to Get this Car Back to our Family if I get a Chance to.. Not Blanking Out the Plates.. If anyone Finds this Car Let Me Know..
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