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Old 12th April 2009, 12:54   #1951
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AAHH the landcrab, known for its odd shape there was one for sale in mumbai till some time ago.
Hey, Amol, the 'Landcrab' was some beast wasn't it and quite a radical looker too? And, to add to the interest, the 'Landcrab' also featured a Fiat Elegant-type horizontal ribbon/tape speedometer! The car in post # 1942 is an 1100/1300 though. The 'Landcrab' was the BMC 1800/2200.

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It was the UK's best selling car for many years until the Ford Cortina and Escort came along. Sadly the 1100 was never updated and died a natural death. Its successor, the Allegro was hell.
Ajmat, the Ford Cortina co-existed with the BMC 1100, both introduced in 1962 or '63 if I'm not mistaken. The Ford Escort came along in the late 60s. So the BMC 1100/1300 kept battling them for some time as it continued in production till the mid-70s. Until the Cortina became larger with its MkIII, the 1100/1300 pretty much outsold it for most of the years.

And the 1100 was indeed upgraded, with the 1300 engine in the MkII, an auto-box option, the option of a two-door body, etc., which is why this model is called the 1100/1300 depending on the plant. A MkIII with cosmetic changes was also introduced. Moreover, when BMC launched the Maxi and the 'Landcrab', many considered them as development/evolution of the 1100/1300 DNA, so they could be considered as some sort of a step-up (althouh the Maxi was originally conceived of before the 1100/1300).

Ripper's picture in post # 1942 is definitely of a MkII (being a two-door body and also by the grille blank), therefore 1967 and later; only there's no way to tell whether an 1100 0r 1300!
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Old 12th April 2009, 14:06   #1952
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The rusted car in the pictures in question is the two door Austin 1100. Launched as the Morris 1100 in 1962 it was also sold as the MG with twin carbs, the Vanden Plas Princess,the Austin 1100 from 1963, the Wolseley 1100 form 1965 and finally the Riley Kestrel.

It featured the BMC A series 1098 CC four cylinder engine mounted transcersly in the front driving the front wheels.

The car featured what is refered to as a Hydrolastic interconnected fluid suspension designed by Alex Moulton loosley based on that of the Citroen 2CV and a body designed by teh Pinninfarina Design Studios.

The system replaces the separate springs and dampers of a conventional suspension system with integrated, space efficient, fluid filled, displacer units, which are interconnected between the front and rear wheels on each side of the vehicle.

Each displacer unit contains a rubber spring, and damping is achieved by the displaced fluid passing through rubber valves. The displaced fluid passes to the displacer of the paired wheel, thus providing a dynamic interaction between front and rear wheels.

The Mark I, available from 67 to 71 featured this suspension and was available only as a four door saloon and also a three door wagon.

The Mark II versions, introduced in 67 featured the larger 1275 cc engine and was also offered as a two door saloon and estate versions were also available.

It is actually very tough to say with absolute certainity what this car was actually badged as looking at the pictures provided but one can be sure it is a Mark II version and it would have had the larger 1275 cc engine as the Mark I was never sold in two door form. One would actually have to check the build plate for details as there is no trim etc on the car that could be used to identify it.

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merc 170

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Oh no ajmat! That Honour goes to this merc 170,Lil genius here has a Matador 307 engine in it!!!
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what year is this 170 and where did you find her is she still running does the owner want to sell her do you have any details addresses etc from the photo even the bumpers seem to have been chanced to the ones from an ambassador

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I received these pics of this car from an old collector who could not remember anything, what and where. Perhaps someone can identify and knows more. He told me that this was lying in Bihar/UP. Looks very interesting, what say?
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Looks familiar... Morris 10? My family had one, a long time ago.
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Looks familiar... Morris 10? My family had one, a long time ago.
Its certainly way too big to be a Morris 10, plus the latter didn't come with the 'stepney' fitted on the sides.

Certainly is some '30s types American car.

Harit: The steering wheel spokes look odd to me- are they originally bent that way, or is it because the image got distored on apparently being resized to fit?
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I received these pics of this car from an old collector who could not remember anything, what and where. Perhaps someone can identify and knows more. He told me that this was lying in Bihar/UP. Looks very interesting, what say?
I'm vacillating between Buick and Oldsmobile. Maybe, just maybe, because of the wheels I also wonder if it could be a Hupmobile?
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A Vauxhall Grosvenor Limo 1934-1936 7 seater just bought by Mr. Asher. Relatively rare car, there are not many Vintage Vauxhall's in India. And it is not a discovery, very few knew about it since many years, I did not.
The car is quite original, most of the parts are there.
Enjoy!
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A Vauxhall Grosvenor Limo 1934-1936 7 seater just bought by Mr. Asher. Relatively rare car, there are not many Vintage Vauxhall's in India. And it is not a discovery, very few knew about it since many years, I did not.
The car is quite original, most of the parts are there.
Enjoy!
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Surprisingly large for a Vauxhall, we are used to seeing the regular small ones. Very good looking, especially in side profile. What was the history? Any royalty connection, (Indian or British)?
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A Vauxhall Grosvenor Limo 1934-1936 7 seater just bought by Mr. Asher. Relatively rare car, there are not many Vintage Vauxhall's in India. Enjoy!harit
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Surprisingly large for a Vauxhall, we are used to seeing the regular small one s. What was the history? Any royalty connection, (Indian or British)?
That's a nice car and its picture. Really nice condition. Thanks for sharing, Harit.

By not many vintage Vauxhalls in India, did you mean not many came or not many around now? There were quite a few vintage Vauxhalls running in India back in the day. But I'd agree that not many are around now, comparatively. Yet, there are still a fair number of them even today. Including a Prince Henry that I know of! Limos with partition-glass too. And many 14s(J type, pre and of course post-war/vintage), not to mention the many smaller ones.

Yes, Karl, one is more accustomed to seeing the smaller Vauxhalls. Pity how an image gets formed because of local patterns. There are still a few large vintage Vauxhalls around (as I've noted above). This one could also have a military connection. Quite a few large Vauxhalls did senior staff duty, while the smaller ones ferried the younger lot and found individual custom too.
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Yet, there are still a fair number of them even today. Including a Prince Henry that I know of!
Prabal, no fair. Stop teasing and tell us more!
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Prabal, no fair. Stop teasing and tell us more!
Okay, let me tell you about a 1920s Vauxhall 20/60 Princeton Tourer. Was all there and in original patina although needed resto for show. Belonged to a well-known industrial house of North India that makes transportation of a simpler kind!! Last saw the car 15 years ago while my friend (of the same house) was alive. Don't know what became of her subsequently, though I'm given to believe that she survives.

Okay, I run now, have to earn a livelihood too!

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Is this car for sale ?
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Spotted this car at Vile Parle (west). Can anyone identify it?
aHH!! i love this car. Yes, it is an Austin 1100. Here is a Brilliant example.









BTW, Is the suspension salvagable in this junked A1100??
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Attached please find a pic of an Opel, this was lying in Pune around 1978 with a mechanic. It was a 7 seater. The owner was Parsi, lived in Mumbai on Woodhouse road. We went to his house, unfortunately he was not there. And family said that they do not plan to restore.
Many years later I saw Sable's car in Pune, thought that it was the same. But it was not. Wonder what happened to it.
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