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Old 15th August 2017, 18:10   #31
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Re: 1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins

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How is this shade of blue ? any suggestions?
Luv it. Looks similar to an original Belvedere blue. See pic here https://goo.gl/images/qZwqn8
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How is this shade of blue ? any suggestions?
Great choice!! Will look absolutely gorgeous once completed.
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Re: 1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins

Confusion about which shade to go for. The one on top or the one below it (thats the one which I had posted earlier.)

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Confusion about which shade to go for, the one on top or the one below it (thats the one which I had posted earlier.)
Though it is difficult to judge from the pictures but I assume the shade on the top picture is darker compared to the below. I would prefer the color to be as close to the picture below which I found in google, I think it matches the shade on the top pic. Again it is my personal preference.

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How is this shade of blue ? any suggestions?

Below are some original 1959 Chrysler colour chips and catalogue pages. Maybe, it will help you choose! Good luck.

1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins-1959-plymouth-colours1.jpg

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Notice this one is a RHD "Import". Imported to where, I do not know.

Cars do change personality with colour, I would stick as close as possible to the original factory shade.

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Re: 1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins

Totally agree with Travancore! Go for the original shades itself. It's good to see the vintage cars as stock as possible. The Skyblue shade does that precisely. Good choice.
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Below are some original 1959 Chrysler colour chips and catalogue pages. Maybe, it will help you choose! Good luck.

Cars do change personality with colour, I would stick as close as possible to the original factory shade.
Thanks for these, plan is to stick to one of the original factory shade only.
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Re: 1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins

Powder blue with a white roof would be a smart original combination.

However, the owner must ultimately be the deciding force, the paint shade must be pleasing to him
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@KartikeyaL : Excellent restoration process, absolutely glued, awaiting outcome.
Would you please share the engine specs.
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Truly amazing work. I am going to follow this thread till the conclusion. If wonder what engine this one has? For some reason it reminds me of a 230 Straight Six engine and I read online that this was supposed to come with the Slant 6 engine. You'll have to forgive me, my knowledge of these cars is limited to what I learnt reading online, but I'd be very interested in knowing what engine this car has.

On the paint scheme, I agree with the lighter blue. It looks closer to the original factory finish.

Again, AMAZING work from the team working on this and Thank You for sharing.
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I wonder what engine this one has? For some reason it reminds me of a 230 Straight Six engine and I read online that this was supposed to come with the Slant 6 engine. You'll have to forgive me, my knowledge of these cars is limited to what I learnt reading online, but I'd be very interested in knowing what engine this car has.
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The engine is Plymouth 230 inline 6 flathead, its about 3772 cc.

1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins-img20170822wa0012.jpg

Update on the progress

The fenders, hood have recieved a rubber coating (3M)

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Though they have the original plymouth catalogue, but still to get the right shade of the colour is a task.

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This was painted couple of days back and now they are thinking of changing it , waiting for the correct formula for the powder blue.

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Re: 1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins

Thank you! So, my research took me in the right direction. Learnt a lot! I love the color the car has, but I am assuming that camera plays a part and those who are seeing it in person feel the shade is a little off and needs correction. Would love to see the final result.

Curious what they plan to do for the wheels and tires and also the interiors.
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Re: 1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins

I may be wrong, but I think the 6 cylinder side valve engine that this car has was made by Chrysler and was shared by several American cars assembled in India during the 1950s.

As far as I know, it powered the Studebaker Champion (not the V-8 President) and Dodge Kingsway as well. If had a gusty amount of torque.

I remember driving a Studebaker Champion with this engine in Kolkata. The car had a defective gear change, and would not shift gears easily. I was on Majerhat bridge (a significant incline) on top (3rd) gear when I had to stop, and start again because a tram was coming at me. I couldn't shift the gear to 1st, so all I could do is to start up the slope on top gear, and the car did so effortlessly !!

In 1976 I have seen the same engine powering a portable (on a trailer) water pump powering a pump, meant for use by the Fire brigade.
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I may be wrong, but I think the 6 cylinder side valve engine that this car has was made by Chrysler and was shared by several American cars assembled in India during the 1950s.

As far as I know, it powered the Studebaker Champion (not the V-8 President) and Dodge Kingsway as well. If had a gusty amount of torque.
Here is a picture of the marking on the engine which shows "DPCD", which stands for " Dodge Plymouth Chrysler Desoto"

1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins-img20170823wa0023.jpg

Dodge Kingsway has the same engine but I have been told that this is different from the Studebaker engine.

More about these cars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymou...7.E2.80.931959

http://www.allpar.com/history/plymou...cars-1959.html

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Re: 1959 Plymouth Belvedere - Restoration begins

Car is turning out really nice! As far as colour goes. I think Standox classics has the entire range for plymouth, dodge, chrysler group. Alternatively i remember I had seen a comprehensive year wise classics colour options for american cars in Dupont as well. Infact I used Ford's bimming blue as a start for painting my Fiat from the Dupont dealer in Mumbai.
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