Standard cars in India

karlosdeville · 10th April 2008, 20:55

Slipped my mind to include these here.

This red 1912 Standard Coventry is a regular at Calcutta rallies, and features a later locally modified rear end apparently. More can be read here. Pictures courtesy John Milne.

Standards at the Delhi Durbar

I am trying to contact the owner, can anyone help?

Another 1924 model here.

Indian SLO4

While the car is Madras regd, I feel the car must be in Bangalore now as it is standing next to a green Beetle in a rally, and that Beetle is in Bangalore.

Stanher · 10th April 2008, 21:57

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

While the car is Madras regd, I feel the car must be in Bangalore now as it is standing next to a green Beetle in a rally, and that Beetle is in Bangalore.

'could be possible that the Beetle was driven down to Madras for the rally?

karlosdeville · 10th April 2008, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Stanher

'could be possible that the Beetle was driven down to Madras for the rally?

It is a possibility that either car is/was in Bangalore/Madras. Thats why I said I feel, not Im sure.

historyman · 11th April 2008, 16:57

With excellent help from Stanher I’ve updated my draft of the Standard story for my carhistory4.com web site. I thought I’d post it here this time in case anyone can add to it before I finalise it.

In 1948 or 1949 the Union Motor Company reached an agreement with Standard Motors (UK) and by about 1950 they started to assemble 2088 cc Vanguard cars.

By the early 1950s locally produced parts were being fitted.

The company’s named was changed in to Standard Motor Products of India (STAMPRO). Q. In what year was the name changed?

In 1955 the company introduced the 803 cc Standard 8 (hp) model and shortly afterwards the 948 cc Standard 10 (hp), which was a larger engine version of the model 8. Q. How many of each were made?

The Pennant model, a restyled Standard 10, was produced between 1959 and mid 1961. An estate version called the Companion was produced until late 1962.

In December 1960 the 948 cc, two-door Standard (Triumph) Herald was introduced in India, replacing in 1961 the Model 10 and the Pennant.

Locally produced fuel gauges, speedos and amp meters were utilised from 1963 and by 1964 the engine, gearbox and axle were manufactured locally.

In 1966 the mark 2 version was introduced, followed shortly afterwards by the four-door Mark 3 model in late 1967/early 1968.

In 1970 the Companion estate version of the Mark 3 was produced.

Note: Standard Motors of UK acquired Triumph in 1944. In 1961 Leyland Motors acquired Standard Triumph, who in turn became part of the newly formed British Leyland in 1968.

In 1970 Standard Motor’s agreement with British Leyland ended and production of the Standard Herald car ceased in 1971. Q. How many Standard Herald cars were made between 1962 and 1971?

Between 1971 and 1977 the company produced the 948 cc, 10 hp four-door Gazel, the first car designed in India. Q. How many made? A 5-door estate version was also supplied.

Car production resumed in 1985 when the company launched the Standard 2000, a rebadged British Leyland Rover SD1 fitted with a modified 1991 cc Standard Vanguard engine. Q. Was a 2061 cc 85 hp engine also fitted?

Production of this model ceased in 1987.

Cyrus43 · 27th April 2008, 02:55

Saw this herald recently. A friend took the pictures for me. What model is it exactly? mark 1....mark 2????

travancore · 27th April 2008, 06:16

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Originally Posted by historyman

With excellent help from Stanher I’ve updated my draft of the Standard story for my carhistory4.com web site. I thought I’d post it here this time in case anyone can add to it before I finalise it.

In 1948 or 1949 the Union Motor Company reached an agreement with Standard Motors (UK) and by about 1950 they started to assemble 2088 cc Vanguard cars.

By the early 1950s locally produced parts were being fitted.

Here is an interesting ad from 1952:

Stanher · 27th April 2008, 09:54

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Originally Posted by GTA

Saw this herald recently. A friend took the pictures for me. What model is it exactly? mark 1....mark 2????

Ofcourse its a MARK1, and that too ONE OF THE EARLIEST mk1- note the bonnet handle- these were present on only the first 100 odd Heralds introduced in India, which makes this a Dec. 1960/early '61 model!!! Possibly the RAREST of all mk1 Heralds!!!

I know of only one other such car, still owned by the 1st owner, locatedin lucknow.

Wow, its still got the hard-to-find dual-bulb front indicators, looks complete too!
Incorrect colour scheme though.
Hey, find the owner ASAP buddy, enquire if its for sale!!

Stanher · 27th April 2008, 10:22

Oh, and just noticed- the dash doesnt seem original, also the rear wheel rim is a Gazel one.

@travancore: nice ad! Is this the full ad only?

khanak · 27th April 2008, 11:34

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Originally Posted by GTA

Saw this herald recently. A friend took the pictures for me. What model is it exactly? mark 1....mark 2????

WOW!! I really like that paintjob. Its amazing how a good colourscheme can change the looks of a car.

karlosdeville · 27th April 2008, 12:08

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Originally Posted by GTA

Saw this herald recently. A friend took the pictures for me. What model is it exactly? mark 1....mark 2????

Great find. I cant remember the last time I saw such a clean bodyline on a Herald.

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Originally Posted by Stanher

@travancore: nice ad! Is this the full ad only?

Yup, its been on ebay for some time.

Stanher · 27th April 2008, 13:48

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Great find. I cant remember the last time I saw such a clean bodyline on a Herald.

'bet you also cant remember the last time you saw such an early Herald (with the bonnet handle!

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Cyrus43 · 28th April 2008, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Stanher

Ofcourse its a MARK1, and that too ONE OF THE EARLIEST mk1- note the bonnet handle- these were present on only the first 100 odd Heralds introduced in India, which makes this a Dec. 1960/early '61 model!!! Possibly the RAREST of all mk1 Heralds!!!

I know of only one other such car, still owned by the 1st owner, locatedin lucknow.

Wow, its still got the hard-to-find dual-bulb front indicators, looks complete too!
Incorrect colour scheme though.
Hey, find the owner ASAP buddy, enquire if its for sale!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Great find. I cant remember the last time I saw such a clean bodyline on a Herald.

Yup, its been on ebay for some time.

Karl, This car was parked outside Turels house the other day. So i am sure it is for sale.

Stanher · 28th April 2008, 18:05

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Originally Posted by GTA

Karl, This car was parked outside Turels house the other day. So i am sure it is for sale.

In that case, ENQUIRE BOUT IT- ASAP!!!!!

Iam just FED UP with losing out to someone else on extremely rare Heralds!!!
For God's sake DO NOT DELAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll get you as many godd___ parts for any of your fiats as I can find- or even whole fiats, just do help me out this once Dikra!!!!

Incidentally, I bet its a Parsi-owned car.

bluestraveller · 30th April 2008, 20:49

My friend sent me pics showing the removal of a roof from a standard herald. I will post the pics soon with his permission. I think there are 7 bolts in total that need to be unscrewed to get the roof off

Stanher · 2nd May 2008, 09:09

Actually it would be 8 bolts if I recall right.

Anyways, here's the other herald I saw yesterday with carbug. It turns out to be another ex-Dharampur Herald! the first known one brought to Hyderabad being Dharampur 6. This car still is in its original paint although I'm disappointed by the dash being padded up. Also it wouldve had a complete effect with WWtyres!

Note the original battery terminals- rare on Indian Heralds!

10th April 2008, 20:55	#316
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,275 Times View My Garage	Slipped my mind to include these here. This red 1912 Standard Coventry is a regular at Calcutta rallies, and features a later locally modified rear end apparently. More can be read here. Pictures courtesy John Milne. Standards at the Delhi Durbar I am trying to contact the owner, can anyone help? Another 1924 model here. Indian SLO4 While the car is Madras regd, I feel the car must be in Bangalore now as it is standing next to a green Beetle in a rally, and that Beetle is in Bangalore.
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11th April 2008, 16:57	#319
historyman BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Eyam, UK Posts: 31 Thanked: 4 Times	historyman With excellent help from Stanher I’ve updated my draft of the Standard story for my carhistory4.com web site. I thought I’d post it here this time in case anyone can add to it before I finalise it. In 1948 or 1949 the Union Motor Company reached an agreement with Standard Motors (UK) and by about 1950 they started to assemble 2088 cc Vanguard cars. By the early 1950s locally produced parts were being fitted. The company’s named was changed in to Standard Motor Products of India (STAMPRO). Q. In what year was the name changed? In 1955 the company introduced the 803 cc Standard 8 (hp) model and shortly afterwards the 948 cc Standard 10 (hp), which was a larger engine version of the model 8. Q. How many of each were made? The Pennant model, a restyled Standard 10, was produced between 1959 and mid 1961. An estate version called the Companion was produced until late 1962. In December 1960 the 948 cc, two-door Standard (Triumph) Herald was introduced in India, replacing in 1961 the Model 10 and the Pennant. Locally produced fuel gauges, speedos and amp meters were utilised from 1963 and by 1964 the engine, gearbox and axle were manufactured locally. In 1966 the mark 2 version was introduced, followed shortly afterwards by the four-door Mark 3 model in late 1967/early 1968. In 1970 the Companion estate version of the Mark 3 was produced. Note: Standard Motors of UK acquired Triumph in 1944. In 1961 Leyland Motors acquired Standard Triumph, who in turn became part of the newly formed British Leyland in 1968. In 1970 Standard Motor’s agreement with British Leyland ended and production of the Standard Herald car ceased in 1971. Q. How many Standard Herald cars were made between 1962 and 1971? Between 1971 and 1977 the company produced the 948 cc, 10 hp four-door Gazel, the first car designed in India. Q. How many made? A 5-door estate version was also supplied. Car production resumed in 1985 when the company launched the Standard 2000, a rebadged British Leyland Rover SD1 fitted with a modified 1991 cc Standard Vanguard engine. Q. Was a 2061 cc 85 hp engine also fitted? Production of this model ceased in 1987.
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Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	Saw this herald recently. A friend took the pictures for me. What model is it exactly? mark 1....mark 2???? Attached Thumbnails Attached Images
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Stanher Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,087 Times View My Garage	Oh, and just noticed- the dash doesnt seem original, also the rear wheel rim is a Gazel one. @travancore: nice ad! Is this the full ad only?
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bluestraveller BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ Posts: 117 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	My friend sent me pics showing the removal of a roof from a standard herald. I will post the pics soon with his permission. I think there are 7 bolts in total that need to be unscrewed to get the roof off
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Stanher Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,087 Times View My Garage	Actually it would be 8 bolts if I recall right. Anyways, here's the other herald I saw yesterday with carbug. It turns out to be another ex-Dharampur Herald! the first known one brought to Hyderabad being Dharampur 6. This car still is in its original paint although I'm disappointed by the dash being padded up. Also it wouldve had a complete effect with WWtyres! Note the original battery terminals- rare on Indian Heralds! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Stanher : 2nd May 2008 at 09:13.
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