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Old 13th May 2017, 15:48   #2326
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Re: Classic Rolls Royces in India

Anyone knows this car? Probably in Bombay, industrialists car.

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Looks like a rebody on an older chassis, not covering the registration plate could be helpful?...
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Old 14th May 2017, 19:20   #2328
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Classic Rolls Royces in India

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Anyone knows this car? Probably in Bombay, industrialists car.



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Looks like Y or X 8418 or near about 8468 lucky to have a new that greys the white to give basic impressions . Not aware of the car though

Can be Sri Lanka or South East ASIA - Burma ? The man's uniform does not look like from India . Only my guess


Funny also noticed the car has trafficators

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Old 14th May 2017, 20:08   #2329
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Doesn't it look a bit like the Singhania car which is maroon now
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Doesn't it look a bit like the Singhania car which is maroon now

Is that not a Ghost ? Correct he if wrong ?

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Anyone knows this car? Probably in Bombay, industrialists car.

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Harit,
It is much easier if you don't hide the registration!

X 84nn could be a Ceylon 1928-36 number and 84nn would make it 1934ish I guess. Or it could be Bombay early 1920s. Definitely not Burma (R, RA, RB, etc)
From the look of the car I would pick Sri Lanka, especially as kasli doesn't like the driver's uniform. Unless people say rebodied and then I guess Bombay.
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Anyone knows this car? Probably in Bombay, industrialists car.

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Nice find. I too would say rebody?

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Doesn't it look a bit like the Singhania car which is maroon now
I see the passing resemblance, but that is a Ghost and this is more likely to be small horsepower car. The other match that comes to mind is the Mayurbhanj 20hp GDK4, originally Barker Landaulette but rebodied to a tourer (Steuarts?) with similar bulging fenders. A small possibility that the first rebody was a saloon, and later chopped. But on closer inspection many other details don't match.

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Old 17th May 2017, 15:52   #2333
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Re: Classic Rolls Royces in India

Found this picture on pinterest, it is supposed to be chassis 1316 (1910) by Barker for Maharaja of Cooch Behar

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Found this picture on pinterest, it is supposed to be chassis 1316 (1910) by Barker for Maharaja of Cooch Behar

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The identity is confirmed.
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Anyone knows this car? Probably in Bombay, industrialists car. Cheers harit
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Looks like a rebody on an older chassis, not covering the registration plate could be helpful?...
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Looks like Y or X 8418 or near about 8468 lucky to have a new that greys the white .......... be Sri Lanka or South East ASIA - Burma ? The man's uniform does not look like from India . Only my guess
Funny also noticed the car has trafficators Cheers
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Harit, It is much easier if you don't hide the registration! X 84nn could be a Ceylon 1928-36 number and 84nn would make it 1934ish I guess. Or it could be Bombay early 1920s. Definitely not Burma (R, RA, RB, etc) From the look of the car I would pick Sri Lanka, especially as kasli doesn't like the driver's uniform. Unless people say rebodied and then I guess Bombay. Cheers Cedric
Hi guys thanks for response.
Hopefully the car will now be identified when the complete photo is shown.
The registration number is X 8400, so a Bombay car.
Somehow I don't think that it is a re-body, re-bodied so early in it's life? One never knows though.
The Cottage, Morarji Cottage could give some clue to it's identity.
Was any Rolls supplied to a Morarji family / mills early 1930's?
This appears to be a discovery of a car not much is known about.

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Hi guys thanks for response.
Hopefully the car will now be identified when the complete photo is shown.
The registration number is X 8400, so a Bombay car.
Somehow I don't think that it is a re-body, re-bodied so early in it's life? One never knows though.
The Cottage, Morarji Cottage could give some clue to it's identity.
Was any Rolls supplied to a Morarji family / mills early 1930's?
This appears to be a discovery of a car not much is known about.
In 1929 a 20hp with Weymann Saloon coachwork was delivered to Morarji Khatau, #GLN34 - I would guess this is the same car. To me it looks like a rebody. The cottage looks like a hill station to me - Mahabaleshwar/Lonavala/Matheran.

Incidentally I am told the Khatau family also had another Rolls, a 1921 Silver Ghost #21AG, Park Ward Cabriolet, bought by them in 1933 from the original owner, Kooverji Gamadia. The car is not known to survive.
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#21AG won a trophy at a concours of the Australian Rolls-royce owners club in 1977, so I'm pretty sure it's still around.
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Incidentally I am told the Khatau family also had another Rolls, a 1921 Silver Ghost #21AG, Park Ward Cabriolet, bought by them in 1933 from the original owner, Kooverji Gamadia. The car is not known to survive.
The "C"ooverji Gamadia Silver Ghost was chassis # 91AG.

Boybentley is correct. 21AG was shipped to Douglas Fraser of Brisbane; and seems to have had an Australian light tourer body.

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Old 23rd May 2017, 09:12   #2339
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The "C"ooverji Gamadia Silver Ghost was chassis # 91AG.
Apologies, that was a typo. It was indeed 91AG. Any further records of the car? And what about GLN34?
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The "Balrampur" Phantom II is a new one for me. I believe it is the same as the "Tirwa" car - 1930 Phantom II, chassis 179GY (registration USA-134).
As per the former Maharaja the Rolls was gifted to Raja Saheb Tirwa.

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1930 Rolls Royce Phantom II Barker sedanca de ville owned by the Raja of Tirwa. Picture taken at Lucknow in 1966-67. Colour was black and primrose. Still owned by their family, I am informed.
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and found this online

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Same car ?

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