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Old 17th September 2017, 04:40   #2356
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Prem, according to Tom Clarke, this is WVA42 which was bought new by Krishna Chandra Gajapathi Narayana Deo, Raja of Parlakimedi. The give-away detail is the division, found on design 20, otherwise identical to design 13.
Thanks so much for the correction. We live and learn!

So, WTA23 is still missing in action. Apologies to everyone.

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Old 19th September 2017, 05:47   #2357
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19, Tuglak Road, New Delhi ; and a humble car


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Incidentally, we have seen the same house with a much nicer car before - the ex-Kashmir RR 20/25, Chassis GSR26, per the experts.

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What is a Luytens bungalow on Tughlak Road worth ? Almost as much as all of Manhattan

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome...600-crore.html

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Re: Classic Rolls Royces in India

Nice picture of Jodhpur no. 27 ( source FB)
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Re: Classic Rolls Royces in India

Couple of Patiala cars

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The car in the first picture is Chassis 2656 by Steuarts. It is also on the right (partial view) in the 2nd photo.

The white car that we see front on, in the 2nd photo is 2560 by Dykes.
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Cross posting an interesting 20hp posted here (Nostalgic automotive pictures including our family's cars)

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Hi guys thanks for response.
Hopefully the car will now be identified when the complete photo is shown.
The registration number is X 8400, so a Bombay car.
Somehow I don't think that it is a re-body, re-bodied so early in it's life? One never knows though.
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I am starting to wonder if Harit's mystery car is an earlier avatar of the 20/25 Saloon body, now in the Ramchander collection.

It is the ex-Kashmir GSR35
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I am starting to wonder if Harit's mystery car is an earlier avatar of the 20/25 Saloon body, now in the Ramchander collection.

It is the ex-Kashmir GSR35
There is a good chance that the car is GLN34, a Weymann Saloon 20; delivered new to Morarji Khatau (this picture is taken outside Morarji Cottage).
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There is a good chance that the car is GLN34, a Weymann Saloon 20; delivered new to Morarji Khatau (this picture is taken outside Morarji Cottage).
Thanks Karl. It does not however look like a Weymann body, unless of course it was rebodied.

Is there anyway to find out roughly when the X-8400 plate would have been issued ?

We have seen X-7998 on a PII; and Y-2019 on a PI. Did "Y" come before "X" ?

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Thanks Karl. It does not however look like a Weymann body, unless of course it was rebodied.

Is there anyway to find out roughly when the X-8400 plate would have been issued ?

We have seen X-7998 on a PII; and Y-2019 on a PI. Did "Y" come before "X" ?
Looking at those bulbous fenders we can be quite sure it was rebodied!

I have some dates as under

K 4xxx - 1939
K 5xxx - 1939
K 6xxx - 1940

N 1xxx - 1937

W 1xxx - 1929
W 5xxx - 1932
W 9xxx - 1937

X 6xxx - 1929

Y 5xxx - 1927
Y 6xxx - 1928
Y 9xxx - 1928

Z 8xxx - 1924

So as you can see now it is more confusing than ever before
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Re: Classic Rolls Royces in India

1912 , Chassis #1928, Roi-des-Belges, for the Maharaja of Bikaner.
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Re: Classic Rolls Royces in India

Is this car a P3 ? and going by the colour of the steering not the normal coach builders I Presume . Surely being one of the prominent families in Mumbai a Rolls would be possible to own.

Two Morarji's or Morarjee's were Mill owners - One part is now known as the Piramal Group and the Morarjee family still deal in Cotton Textiles across India.

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Hi guys thanks for response.
Hopefully the car will now be identified when the complete photo is shown.
The registration number is X 8400, so a Bombay car.
Somehow I don't think that it is a re-body, re-bodied so early in it's life? One never knows though.
The Cottage, Morarji Cottage could give some clue to it's identity.
Was any Rolls supplied to a Morarji family / mills early 1930's?
This appears to be a discovery of a car not much is known about.

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Looking at those bulbous fenders we can be quite sure it was rebodied!

I have some dates as under

K 4xxx - 1939
K 5xxx - 1939
K 6xxx - 1940

N 1xxx - 1937

W 1xxx - 1929
W 5xxx - 1932
W 9xxx - 1937

X 6xxx - 1929

Y 5xxx - 1927
Y 6xxx - 1928
Y 9xxx - 1928

Z 8xxx - 1924

So as you can see now it is more confusing than ever before
Karl,
From what I have, the issuing order was: no letter, Z, Y, X, W, T, N, K and W9999 is said to be a 1934 number that was a reregistration from one of the first 2 series. I think the reregistrations started in 1933 or 1934 but how long it took to do all the no letter and Z vehicles I have no idea.
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Karl,
From what I have, the issuing order was: no letter, Z, Y, X, W, T, N, K and W9999 is said to be a 1934 number that was a reregistration from one of the first 2 series. I think the reregistrations started in 1933 or 1934 but how long it took to do all the no letter and Z vehicles I have no idea.
Cheers
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Hi Cedric,

I have cars of 1938 and 1939, with the first books of registration showing the old, single alphabet followed by numbers. one starts with Y and the other I forget, need to look.

Therefore, at least in Bombay, the re regstration process must have started post those years.
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Hi Cedric,

I have cars of 1938 and 1939, with the first books of registration showing the old, single alphabet followed by numbers. one starts with Y and the other I forget, need to look.

Therefore, at least in Bombay, the re regstration process must have started post those years.
Bulldogji,
It would certainly be useful to know what the dates of registration and registrations were for those two as it would help work out the dates better.
As we know now, Y was never reregistered, only the no letter and Z series.
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Karl,
From what I have, the issuing order was: no letter, Z, Y, X, W, T, N, K and W9999 is said to be a 1934 number that was a reregistration from one of the first 2 series. I think the reregistrations started in 1933 or 1934 but how long it took to do all the no letter and Z vehicles I have no idea.
Cheers
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Hi Cedric,

I have cars of 1938 and 1939, with the first books of registration showing the old, single alphabet followed by numbers. one starts with Y and the other I forget, need to look.

Therefore, at least in Bombay, the re regstration process must have started post those years.

Incidentally W 9999 was a 1932 Plymouth. In a photo dated Jan 1935 the same car is also seen with the plate BOM Z 9999. I assume BOM Z was changed at some point to W. And eventually around 1939 to BMW. It adds up since the Motor Vehicles Act was passed/updated in 1939 I think.
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