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Also any idea when John Fasal's book on "Rolls Royces in Princely India" may be published ? It has been a few years in the making and I thought it was to have been published in 2006/7 | |
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| ![]() Unidentified / Misidentified "Indian" Rolls Royces: Here are two (possibly PIII's) that have not been positively identified: ![]() (source: Team-BHP; picture taken at Rajkot) Initially I thought this may be Phantom III - 3DL26 Thrupp & Maberly - Maharaja of Parlakamedi; but the vents/louvres on the side of the bonnet are very different. =============================== ![]() ![]() (source: Vantage Motorworks, Inc.) This car was advertised as a 1936 Phantom III - 3AZ178 formerly belonging to the Maharaja of Dharbanga However this chassis # belongs to a Barker Limousine, per the Derby Phantoms. Is this a PIII at all ? Or, could this be a rebody on 3BU50 (originally a Thrupp & Maberly Landaulette / Dharbanga) |
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Both id. are correct (3DL26 & 3AZ178). The bonnet louvres are correct. You were fooled by L.Dalton who misplaced the photos in "Coachwork on RR", 3DL26 is on the right page and vice versa. | |
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| ![]() Hello Travancore, Hereby some Indian Silver Ghost pictures. #18KG 1922 Silver Ghost Barker Limousine Maharaja of Patiala #35PP 1919 Silver Ghost Barker Open Drive Limousine Maharaja of Indore #2154 1912 Silver Ghost Barker Tourer Raja of Nabha Regards-Henk |
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You always seem to come through with your (obvious) expert knowledge on things RR. So now we have 2 more Indian PIII's identified with pictures. Which leaves a very few unidentified. Thanks ![]() So what is the story with 3AZ178 ? Is this misidentified as a "Barker Saloon" by the Derby Phantoms, or did it have a rebody ? Certainly does not look like a saloon now! Last edited by travancore : 11th May 2008 at 17:43. Reason: added comment | |
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3BU86 is the Bhopal Phantom III. The very first picture looks like the Jaipur car. The others I need to reasearch further. | |
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I need to apologize! I did not see the Chassis #'s initially, but looks like your file names for the pictures contain chassis numbers and some history! Looks like the red car is RR PIII 3BU134 (Kolhapur) today The Dharbanga PIII (dark blue) seems to have been rebodied by Thrupp & Maberly from the earlier Barker Limousine / Saloon The others are obviously the Bhopal and Jaipur PIII's. Please confirm the above. Again, I'm sorry! ![]() | |
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| ![]() Welcome justrolls, I hope you can cope with having to wade through the labyrinth of threads that have evolved here. Maybe one day it can all be put in some order. julian uk |
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| ![]() Pardon my indulgence but they are so similar apart from a bit more legroom in 18KG. The Patiala Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost #18KG next to the 1920 Daimler TS 6-30 ex Dhanraj Giri (thank you DKG) I spent 18 months restoring the mechanical department of in Delhi, (crank ground, new Frys white metal and rings and new bearings everywhere) with my family aboard in a Delhi rally in the mid 90s. I still remember spirally winding the outside of each new cotton covered wire of all the wiring with aluminium wire, as sheathed wire was not available. It was as quiet as a Ghost due to sleeve valves, which were thankfully intact. Under the front wings Barker had used reinforcement plates for the side light mountings cut out of Barker body nameplates. They can only have been fitted by Barker. Thank you for the RR photo justrolls1. ![]() Apologies for interrupting the flow of things so back to some serious number crunching…. Last edited by Julian UK : 12th May 2008 at 02:55. Reason: Merlot |
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Great work, these pictures are outstanding! I am attaching a copy of the body card for the Patiala SG - 18KG. It is hardly readable, but hey! (source: unknown) ![]() ================================================== ====== Also another "Patiala" SG - Barker Double Cabriolet. Maybe one of our RR experts can figure out the Chassis# (source unknown) ![]() ================================================== ======== The Nabha car (#2154) is one of the few to be officially allowed a "name" - like "Silver Ghost" for AX201. This Nabha SG was the "Taj Mahal". Anyone have a closeup of the silver name plate on the cowl, just below the windshield ? (Of course, all of this "expert" info is courtesy of my time at the Internet University!) | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Hi Park-Ward, lovely to see another passionate BHPian join in with interesting pictures and information. If its not asking too much, as I gather you've done quite some research on the RR's in the subcontinent, may I suggest you collate all the pictures posted already with notes on chassis numbers, provenance, shipping details, special order features and post them together in a post or two? That way to a new reader the context is set and makes it easier to understand. Also such handiwork on your part could in future lead to such posts being held separately as reference material. Kindly oblige, and thanks |
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| ![]() I've found 3 pictures of the PII 121GY 1930 Hooper limousine, (first owner H.Walker), at the Rambagh hotel in Jaipur after the Queenie film shooting. With its previous owner, the car was undergoing "restoration" when we left Delhi. I'd cleaned out the block/head and replaced the rotten water manifolds and fitted a water pump repair kit. The engine wasn't bad and on examination was found to have sound crankshaft bearings, no cracks and little scoring. It had good compression and ran well in the film. ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by Julian UK : 12th May 2008 at 16:54. |
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