Classic Rolls Royces in India

mbz180 · 3rd March 2010, 00:18

This car is definitely a Phantom probably a P I if it is from 1925. I say this because the front cantilever springs have the additional diagonal braces on both sides, which were also used in the Silver Ghosts to tie the leather strap for the crank handle. All Silver Ghosts and P I's and maybe even some P-II's had these diagonal braces that were exposed until the coachwork eventually covered them from view in later cars. In that case this car would have the 7.7 litre engine. The smaller Rollers, like the 20hp, 20/25 and 25/30 never had these diagonal braces.

karlosdeville · 3rd March 2010, 14:57

This Roller (boat tail at the recent Statesman) I'm told is a Phantom I from 1925, #76RC, 1st body Barker tourer, 1st owner Capt. Glen.

IndrojitSircar · 3rd March 2010, 15:20

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

This Roller (boat tail at the recent Statesman) I'm told is a Phantom I from 1925, #76RC, 1st body Barker tourer, 1st owner Capt. Glen.

Was it initially with this wooden body? Do check the Statesman thread, there is info on this car put up their by someone.

karlosdeville · 3rd March 2010, 15:24

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

...1st body Barker tourer....

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Originally Posted by IndrojitSircar

Was it initially with this wooden body?

The original body was apparently a Barker Tourer.

manishasrani · 22nd March 2010, 21:30

Vijay Mallya's Rolls Royce spotted today !

travancore · 24th March 2010, 05:33

To revive an earlier post in this thread (post 218) - thanks to karlos . Anyone have any more history on this car ? Awini had mentioned it was a taxi in M.P.

Classic Rolls Royces in India-india-rr-silver-ghost-woody.jpg

Also does anyone have pictures of the Asansol Shooting Brake with its original body ? Cheers

kasli · 24th March 2010, 09:45

was'nt this car somewhere in the East ?? Cant confirm but somewhere I have taken snaps of this very car.. a Doctor had it

travancore · 25th March 2010, 03:49

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Originally Posted by kasli

was'nt this car somewhere in the East ?? Cant confirm but somewhere I have taken snaps of this very car.. a Doctor had it

Kasli, would you be kind enough to post any more pictures if you have them ?

I believe there are stories that it may have been gifted by Baroda to Gwalior, or vice versa. Also owned by Raj Seth at some point in the 1980's ???

Prabal · 25th March 2010, 16:45

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Originally Posted by travancore

Also owned by Raj Seth at some point in the 1980's ???

The picture is in his driveway! And the car is still there as far as I know. About him being the owner, I'm not saying!

rjalihal · 25th March 2010, 20:23

Not sure if this has been posted. This one is from Udaipur's royal car collection. Not sure what model.

kasli · 26th March 2010, 10:07

will dig them out over the weekend it had a wrong steering wheel if now mistaken .. not sure

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Originally Posted by travancore

Kasli, would you be kind enough to post any more pictures if you have them ?

I believe there are stories that it may have been gifted by Baroda to Gwalior, or vice versa. Also owned by Raj Seth at some point in the 1980's ???

Steve Stuckey · 31st March 2010, 03:43

The Mewar car registered RJY3 is a 20/25HP, chassis GNS11. Converted to a hunting truck!

Steve Stuckey

agspins · 10th April 2010, 13:24

Just came across this picture of Silver Ghost #60797 Barker Open Drive Landaulet of Rajkot ordered by HH Thakore Saheb Bahadur.Pic discription says its a 1909 while chassis no suggests 1907-08.

Here is another pic of PII 188PY with above SG..

Here are couple of pics of PII, after the fire

Source:Stern von Indien | Rolls-Royce Enthusiasts' Club German Section e.V.

travancore · 10th April 2010, 18:34

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Originally Posted by agspins

Just came across this picture of Silver Ghost #60797 Barker Open Drive Landaulet of Rajkot ordered by HH Thakore Saheb Bahadur.Pic discription says its a 1909 while chassis no suggests 1907-08.

RR Silver Ghost Chassis 60797 was shown in the RR Catalogue of 1910-1911 (reprints are avialble on EBay for about $5)

harit · 11th April 2010, 15:38

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Originally Posted by travancore

Anyone have any idea which car this is ?
(source VCCCP - Cars in India Miscellaneous)

The pictures have file names SimlaXXXX, if that location means anything to anyone

Attachment 13188

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The boattail with the little trap door looks very similar to that on the Nawab of Bhopal's 1926 Hunting Bentley 6 1/2 (Thrupp & Maberly)

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Originally Posted by awini

this car was the Asansol shooting brake, now being locally rebodied as a replica of a Vizianagaram car which is lying in the same garage for many years.

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Was the shooting brake an original body? Is this the car? It upsets me to see so many people now taking the liberty of rebodying priceless irreplacable cars.

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Originally Posted by IndrojitSircar

These are pics of a 1925 Rolls Royce and is said to have 7700CC engine.Now any info on this car would be apriciated. This car is originally from Asansol in West Bengal and the car has WGJ registration on it.

All these pictures are of the same car. The shooting brake of Asansol.
There was one more shooting brake in the form of a Silver Ghost, Vohra bought that car to Mumbai, and she went on to Sanghi. Either rebodied, or engine was used on an engineless Ghost. The car was in Cuffe Parade in the beginning of 1980's, and not with the lot sent to Chennai for storage.

3rd March 2010, 00:18	#1156
mbz180 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kolkata Posts: 893 Thanked: 1,023 Times	This car is definitely a Phantom probably a P I if it is from 1925. I say this because the front cantilever springs have the additional diagonal braces on both sides, which were also used in the Silver Ghosts to tie the leather strap for the crank handle. All Silver Ghosts and P I's and maybe even some P-II's had these diagonal braces that were exposed until the coachwork eventually covered them from view in later cars. In that case this car would have the 7.7 litre engine. The smaller Rollers, like the 20hp, 20/25 and 25/30 never had these diagonal braces.
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karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,277 Times View My Garage	This Roller (boat tail at the recent Statesman) I'm told is a Phantom I from 1925, #76RC, 1st body Barker tourer, 1st owner Capt. Glen.
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manishasrani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 4,665 Thanked: 7,024 Times	Vijay Mallya's Rolls Royce spotted today ! Attached Thumbnails
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travancore Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 2,934 Thanked: 8,551 Times	RR Shooting Brakes To revive an earlier post in this thread (post 218) - thanks to karlos . Anyone have any more history on this car ? Awini had mentioned it was a taxi in M.P. Also does anyone have pictures of the Asansol Shooting Brake with its original body ? Cheers Last edited by travancore : 24th March 2010 at 05:35.
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kasli Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: BOMBAY Posts: 1,821 Thanked: 2,005 Times	RR shooting brake was'nt this car somewhere in the East ?? Cant confirm but somewhere I have taken snaps of this very car.. a Doctor had it
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rjalihal BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 713 Thanked: 100 Times	Not sure if this has been posted. This one is from Udaipur's royal car collection. Not sure what model. Attached Thumbnails
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Steve Stuckey BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 138 Thanked: 264 Times	The Mewar car registered RJY3 is a 20/25HP, chassis GNS11. Converted to a hunting truck! Steve Stuckey
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10th April 2010, 13:24	#1168
agspins Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MH-31 Posts: 1,652 Thanked: 508 Times View My Garage	Just came across this picture of Silver Ghost #60797 Barker Open Drive Landaulet of Rajkot ordered by HH Thakore Saheb Bahadur.Pic discription says its a 1909 while chassis no suggests 1907-08. Here is another pic of PII 188PY with above SG.. Here are couple of pics of PII, after the fire Source:Stern von Indien \| Rolls-Royce Enthusiasts' Club German Section e.V.
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