Classic Bentleys in India

speedy · 27th August 2008, 03:28

this bentley belongs to a friend of mine.

Julian UK · 27th August 2008, 05:46

This Derby Bentley is a 1935 3 1/2 litre, Chassis number #B24 BN Engine number #J6BR with a very rare body by the French coachbuilder Antem of Paris (one of only 3 built on this chassis) it is a Drop Head Coupe and its first owner was Nicky Embiricos, it now belongs to the Thackersey family. Anyone who can add any intervening history please do.
This car is otherwise known as the reddish brown one.
It appears to have lost it's sidelights.

Wonderful photos Speedy, keep them coming. Thank you for sharing.

Classic Bentleys in India-b24-bn-1935-antem-dhc-n-embiricos-thackersey-f.jpg

Photos from team-bhp

karlosdeville · 27th August 2008, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

This car is otherwise known as the reddish brown one.

Not any more. She has since been given a silver colour, black mudguards are retained.

DKG · 27th August 2008, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

1935 Gurney Nutting Drop head coupe...This car has a particularly elegant body.

particularly elegant !

Stunning I'd say. Wow what style. Jeez the thrities must have been a riot in India with these stunning machines seen brand new on Indian roads. Would have loved to be a teenager in 1930!

I can't seem to recollect what Manvendra Singh once mentioned about the Rampur Bentley. I think he knows its fate. Will check with him when I meet him next. Unless MustangMan can check for us

B 24 BN has a lovely body too, pity the present colour doesn't do it justice

speedy · 30th August 2008, 00:33

two more Bentleys from my side
1) 3.5 litre by Gurney Nutting. this is a disappearing top 2 seater convertible. (blue)
2) is a 3.5 litre sports tourer (green)

Julian UK · 30th August 2008, 03:31

Speedy you have made my week!!!
The think the first photo is looking very much like:
1935 Derby Bentley 3 1/2 litre B197 BL Gurney Nutting DHC of the Nawab of Rampur
Do you have a side view? The front mudguards doors etc look the same. A very lovely car.
Here’s an original photo. Confirmation required.

Classic Bentleys in India-b197-bl-1935-gurney-nutting-dhc-nawab-rampur-comparison.jpg

(Gurney Nutting and team-bhp

The 2nd photo looks to be the Indore W O Bentley 3 litre (unknown chassis#) a photo of which was posted by Harit in post #94 of this thread.
Thank you Speedy!!!

DKG · 30th August 2008, 09:47

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Originally Posted by speedy

two more Bentleys from my side
1) 3.5 litre by Gurney Nutting. this is a disappearing top 2 seater convertible. (blue)
2) is a 3.5 litre sports tourer (green)

Great pictures Speedy. You are really adding some great stuff now! Wow that Rampur Bentley is stunning and am I glad its survived. Wonder if its coming to the Cartier show.

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

The 2nd photo looks to be the Indore W O Bentley 3 litre

Not that I know anything about Bentleys but Julian don't those headlights look odd? Are they the originals?

speedy · 30th August 2008, 11:08

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

Speedy you have made my week!!!
The think the first photo is looking very much like:
1935 Derby Bentley 3 1/2 litre B197 BL Gurney Nutting DHC of the Nawab of Rampur
Do you have a side view? The front mudguards doors etc look the same. A very lovely car.
Here’s an original photo. Confirmation required.

Thank you Speedy!!!

Julian it is the same car. i dont have pictures of the side View with me. but i have seen them. the rear tyres have the body cover and are not naked like in the side view picture you have posted, otherwise just the same. the picture u have posted is of the same car in the Garage. see the number plates of both cars CIN 410. the emblems on the grill are also the same. the car is very lovely to look at and a complete stunner.

Julian UK · 31st August 2008, 05:09

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Originally Posted by DKG

Julian don't those headlights look odd? Are they the originals?

I don't think so, but they are not as odd as the dynamo drive pulley arrangement which is a total abomination!! When you next see it open the bonnet. It needs removing as soon as possible!...
I took photographs of the car and others there, but unfortunately.... was unceremoniously not permitted to keep them....a very odd visit to a wonderful collection, and I still don't feel comfortable about it to this day..

speedy · 31st August 2008, 11:56

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

I took photographs of the car and others there, but unfortunately.... was unceremoniously not permitted to keep them....a very odd visit to a wonderful collection, and I still don't feel comfortable about it to this day..

Both cars were with the same person Julian, pictures taken at his place only. i wonder how you did not get a clear picture of the Rampur Bentley (blue one)?? she has been sold to someone. will try and find out to whom.

Julian UK · 2nd September 2008, 05:51

Thank you Speedy for your very valuable photo contributions.

Most of the India Derby Bentleys seem to have survived, there is a possibility that one more has survived, the 1937 4 1/2 litre Vanden Plas tourer Chassis No.#B185 HM Engine no. E9BF 1st owner Raja Sahib of Nilgiri is apparently in New Delhi. Can anyone provide any information?

travancore · 3rd September 2008, 06:10

Bentley 8 Liter YR5083 in India

Does anyone know this car Chassis YR5083, Engine YR5083 (may now have Engine YM5050)
Registration GO 13
1st Body: A Mulliner Coupe; 2nd Body: India built tourer
1st Owner: CWC Wood

(source: http://www.vintagebentleys.org/carpages/go13.php)

Classic Bentleys in India-india-bentley-8-ltr-yr5083.jpg

DKG · 3rd September 2008, 09:19

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

W O Bentley 8 litre 1931 #YF 5014 engine no #YF 5014 1st body A Mulliner Saloon 2nd body India 1st owner E G Guest

Of the two 8 litres in India the Bhogilal Bentley details are as above.

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Originally Posted by travancore

Bentley 8 Liter YR5083 in India

Does anyone know this car Chassis YR5083, Engine YR5083 (may now have Engine YM5050)
Registration GO 13
1st Body: A Mulliner Coupe; 2nd Body: India built tourer
1st Owner: CWC Wood

Harit can help us clarify if this is the second one in Bombay. I am told it is under restoration

karlosdeville · 3rd September 2008, 09:24

From what I understand the other 8 litre Bentley was owned by the late Ronnie Khan, and is hearteningly still retained by the family. It is being restored at Kundanmal's on Peddar road, who also did his Lancia. If I remember correctly, the car was featured on NDTV Good Times "All about my car honey" as well, where Rishad Kundanmal described the car as being fitted with a kit (I forget the name, started with M) which meant a 3 carb set up, besides other goodies.

DKG · 3rd September 2008, 09:28

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

It is being restored at Kundanmal's on Peddar road

Could our Bombay friends visit the garage to atleast get the chassis engine numbers?

27th August 2008, 03:28	#166
speedy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Meri Jaan Posts: 6,197 Thanked: 1,023 Times View My Garage	this bentley belongs to a friend of mine. Attached Thumbnails
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27th August 2008, 05:46	#167
Julian UK BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 709 Thanked: 254 Times	This Derby Bentley is a 1935 3 1/2 litre, Chassis number #B24 BN Engine number #J6BR with a very rare body by the French coachbuilder Antem of Paris (one of only 3 built on this chassis) it is a Drop Head Coupe and its first owner was Nicky Embiricos, it now belongs to the Thackersey family. Anyone who can add any intervening history please do. This car is otherwise known as the reddish brown one. It appears to have lost it's sidelights. Wonderful photos Speedy, keep them coming. Thank you for sharing. Photos from team-bhp Last edited by Julian UK : 27th August 2008 at 05:51.
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30th August 2008, 00:33	#170
speedy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Meri Jaan Posts: 6,197 Thanked: 1,023 Times View My Garage	two more Bentleys from my side 1) 3.5 litre by Gurney Nutting. this is a disappearing top 2 seater convertible. (blue) 2) is a 3.5 litre sports tourer (green) Attached Thumbnails
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30th August 2008, 03:31	#171
Julian UK BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 709 Thanked: 254 Times	Speedy you have made my week!!! The think the first photo is looking very much like: 1935 Derby Bentley 3 1/2 litre B197 BL Gurney Nutting DHC of the Nawab of Rampur Do you have a side view? The front mudguards doors etc look the same. A very lovely car. Here’s an original photo. Confirmation required. (Gurney Nutting and team-bhp The 2nd photo looks to be the Indore W O Bentley 3 litre (unknown chassis#) a photo of which was posted by Harit in post #94 of this thread. Thank you Speedy!!! Last edited by Julian UK : 30th August 2008 at 03:33.
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2nd September 2008, 05:51	#176
Julian UK BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 709 Thanked: 254 Times	Thank you Speedy for your very valuable photo contributions. Most of the India Derby Bentleys seem to have survived, there is a possibility that one more has survived, the 1937 4 1/2 litre Vanden Plas tourer Chassis No.#B185 HM Engine no. E9BF 1st owner Raja Sahib of Nilgiri is apparently in New Delhi. Can anyone provide any information?
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3rd September 2008, 06:10	#177
travancore Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 2,934 Thanked: 8,551 Times	Bentley 8 Liter YR5083 in India Does anyone know this car Chassis YR5083, Engine YR5083 (may now have Engine YM5050) Registration GO 13 1st Body: A Mulliner Coupe; 2nd Body: India built tourer 1st Owner: CWC Wood (source: http://www.vintagebentleys.org/carpages/go13.php)
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3rd September 2008, 09:24	#179
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,277 Times View My Garage	From what I understand the other 8 litre Bentley was owned by the late Ronnie Khan, and is hearteningly still retained by the family. It is being restored at Kundanmal's on Peddar road, who also did his Lancia. If I remember correctly, the car was featured on NDTV Good Times "All about my car honey" as well, where Rishad Kundanmal described the car as being fitted with a kit (I forget the name, started with M) which meant a 3 carb set up, besides other goodies.
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