Miscellaneous other cars in India

awini · 23rd April 2008, 08:55

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Great find Julian. What is that large convertible outside Howrah Motor with the madman in front?

I noticed many cars have a BL something regn. What did this stand for, can someone shed light on this?

Julian, do send these lovely sepia toned images this way as well

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vintag...ly-s-cars.html

could this be a railton?

karlosdeville · 23rd April 2008, 09:30

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Originally Posted by awini

could this be a railton?

Were the Railtons offered with those wheels and hubcaps? It just might be a Rolls with different wheels! Looks quite nice all the same.

Cyrus43 · 23rd April 2008, 12:46

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Originally Posted by awini

could this be a railton?

It looks like a railton to me too. Except for the indicators on the Front fenders.
Also, what is the circled car in the picture below??

Julian UK · 23rd April 2008, 14:02

It does indeed look like a Railton Fairmile.

karlosdeville · 23rd April 2008, 15:36

Are there any Railtons surviving in India? There used to be a couple in Bombay.

Alvis · 23rd April 2008, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

From the records of Mercedes-Benz sales in the UK :

1935 June; Mercedes-Benz 500K Cabriolet B Engine No.113634 Commission No. 201700 (It says Maharajah of "Bravancur" but could it be Travancore?)

1937 July; Mercedes-Benz 540K; (Body style not recorded) Engine No.154068 Commission No. 238673 H. H. Nawab of Bahawlpur

1937 July; Mercedes-Benz 540K Cabriolet A; Engine No. 154081; Commission No. 232198; Maharajah of Indore.

The Bahawalpur 540 K was bodied by Barker, delivered of the complete chassis was at Mercedes Benz ( England ). Sadly this car was taken out of Pakistan in 1967 with a mileage of less than 5000 Miles on the odo. Last year it was on e Bay, will try to look up pictures.

karlosdeville · 24th April 2008, 09:38

You can find those pictures here. Fabulous!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/728925-post85.html

simplythebest · 27th April 2008, 20:43

Hi guys... I saw this car in Ooty.

I'm sure the experts will have an idea as to what it is...

karlosdeville · 27th April 2008, 20:51

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Originally Posted by simplythebest

Hi guys... I saw this car in Ooty.

I'm sure the experts will have an idea as to what it is...

Nice find. Thats a pretty neat looking Hillman Minx. Fellow member DKG has a similar car here

1954 Hillman Minx Mark VII - DKG's Photo Gallery - Team-BHP

Julian UK · 28th April 2008, 00:35

Here are some stills from the film “A Passage to India”
The site objects to hot linking so you’ll have to replace “dot” in each address with . in your address bar, as I can’t get rid of the hyperlink once it uploads here. Any advice anyone?
These are of a very wonderful Bentley that is probably well known to most here
www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/174666.jpg
www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/175080.jpg
www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/177323.jpg

This Austin 12/4 used to be in Delhi. I worked on it in the early 80s. I wonder where it is now? I remember they took it up to Kashmir by truck for these shots.
www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/182609.jpg
www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/182650.jpg
Lovely full screen images, worth a look for those who haven’t seen the film.

karlosdeville · 28th April 2008, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Julian UK

These are of a very wonderful Bentley that is probably well known to most here.

I remember the Bentley well, but only through the movie. Tell us more about it.

Julian UK · 28th April 2008, 20:26

I understood it is in Bhogilal's collection?

Julian UK · 30th April 2008, 03:50

Some free publicity for 2 films shot in India containing cars still in India. "A Passage to India”(David Lean) and “Gandhi” (Richard Attenbrough). Do go out and buy genuine versions of these films today from reputable sources. They are worth watching.
From “The Passage to India”: Unfortunately the final shot of the Bentley and a Model A Ford? has slipped to the end of the post and I can't persuade it to return to the company of the other Bentley shots.

I'm not doing politics on these two films I'm just here for the cars

The Bentley 8 litre
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1931 Buick? Corrections welcome.
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From the film “Gandhi” a 1921? Silver Ghost (still in Delhi) though I did a lot of work on this car I don’t have any numbers or details anymore (20 years ago)
Also I believe the armoured car was a PII and it was being towed/pushed. Try and spot the tow rope.
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A special request by Carl the 1919 Fiat
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A good friend of mine driving his 46 Ariel motorcycle in front of a 34 Buick:
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From "A Passage to India"
An Austin 12/4 in Kashmir which I also did some work on the car used to belong to one of the respected judges of the Statesman rally in Delhi who also owned many cars including an early OHC Wolseley.
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This Bentley shot should be with the others but it resists all attempts at moving it

karlosdeville · 30th April 2008, 09:59

I must say hats off to the faithful replica of the amoured vehicle. I cant think of too many movies back in the day which would take that much trouble.

The 1919 Fiat was bought by Peter Travasso's father in 1931 from a Parsee family. It is still with him, and has been to rallies all over India ever since the movement started. Peter is now in his 70s and almost blind, but his spirit is amazing. We called him up a couple of years ago in the first week of August to attend the Fiat club event in Pune on 15th August. With barely 10 days notice he readily agreed to make it to Pune from Bombay for the event - in the pouring rain! He took 11 hours to do the otherwise 4 hour trip in the pouring rain in a convertible with no side windows. I was quite sure he had caught pnuemonia. With his son behind the wheel they did the rally, and spent the next day shopping - again in the Fiat. I just couldnt believe the ease with which they took the Fiat all over Pune in the busiest of roads at peak traffic to buy Kayanis famous buiscuits.

Thats Peter in the light blue shirt and his son Kimber in the dark blue shirt, and fellow tbhpian Ram on the right. Pic courtesy Prabal.

EDIT - while on the subject of the Gandhi movie, did you see this Renault featured? The owner tells me it was part of the movie. I think it was a BYF regn. Excuse the picture quality, its all I could manage

deutscheafrikar · 30th April 2008, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Alvis

The Bahawalpur 540 K was bodied by Barker, delivered of the complete chassis was at Mercedes Benz ( England ). Sadly this car was taken out of Pakistan in 1967 with a mileage of less than 5000 Miles on the odo. Last year it was on e Bay, will try to look up pictures.

@Alvis. I would like to see the photos that you have of the Nawab's 540 K....

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Julian UK BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 709 Thanked: 254 Times	It does indeed look like a Railton Fairmile.
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24th April 2008, 09:38	#97
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,277 Times View My Garage	You can find those pictures here. Fabulous! http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/728925-post85.html
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28th April 2008, 00:35	#100
Julian UK BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 709 Thanked: 254 Times	Here are some stills from the film “A Passage to India” The site objects to hot linking so you’ll have to replace “dot” in each address with . in your address bar, as I can’t get rid of the hyperlink once it uploads here. Any advice anyone? These are of a very wonderful Bentley that is probably well known to most here www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/174666.jpg www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/175080.jpg www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/177323.jpg This Austin 12/4 used to be in Delhi. I worked on it in the early 80s. I wonder where it is now? I remember they took it up to Kashmir by truck for these shots. www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/182609.jpg www.mapabilitydotcom/travel/p2i/stills/182650.jpg Lovely full screen images, worth a look for those who haven’t seen the film.
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28th April 2008, 20:26	#102
Julian UK BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 709 Thanked: 254 Times	I understood it is in Bhogilal's collection?
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30th April 2008, 03:50	#103
Julian UK BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 709 Thanked: 254 Times	Some free publicity for 2 films shot in India containing cars still in India. "A Passage to India”(David Lean) and “Gandhi” (Richard Attenbrough). Do go out and buy genuine versions of these films today from reputable sources. They are worth watching. From “The Passage to India”: Unfortunately the final shot of the Bentley and a Model A Ford? has slipped to the end of the post and I can't persuade it to return to the company of the other Bentley shots. I'm not doing politics on these two films I'm just here for the cars The Bentley 8 litre 1931 Buick? Corrections welcome. From the film “Gandhi” a 1921? Silver Ghost (still in Delhi) though I did a lot of work on this car I don’t have any numbers or details anymore (20 years ago) Also I believe the armoured car was a PII and it was being towed/pushed. Try and spot the tow rope. A special request by Carl the 1919 Fiat A good friend of mine driving his 46 Ariel motorcycle in front of a 34 Buick: From "A Passage to India" An Austin 12/4 in Kashmir which I also did some work on the car used to belong to one of the respected judges of the Statesman rally in Delhi who also owned many cars including an early OHC Wolseley. This Bentley shot should be with the others but it resists all attempts at moving it Attached Thumbnails
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30th April 2008, 09:59	#104
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,277 Times View My Garage	I must say hats off to the faithful replica of the amoured vehicle. I cant think of too many movies back in the day which would take that much trouble. The 1919 Fiat was bought by Peter Travasso's father in 1931 from a Parsee family. It is still with him, and has been to rallies all over India ever since the movement started. Peter is now in his 70s and almost blind, but his spirit is amazing. We called him up a couple of years ago in the first week of August to attend the Fiat club event in Pune on 15th August. With barely 10 days notice he readily agreed to make it to Pune from Bombay for the event - in the pouring rain! He took 11 hours to do the otherwise 4 hour trip in the pouring rain in a convertible with no side windows. I was quite sure he had caught pnuemonia. With his son behind the wheel they did the rally, and spent the next day shopping - again in the Fiat. I just couldnt believe the ease with which they took the Fiat all over Pune in the busiest of roads at peak traffic to buy Kayanis famous buiscuits. Thats Peter in the light blue shirt and his son Kimber in the dark blue shirt, and fellow tbhpian Ram on the right. Pic courtesy Prabal. EDIT - while on the subject of the Gandhi movie, did you see this Renault featured? The owner tells me it was part of the movie. I think it was a BYF regn. Excuse the picture quality, its all I could manage Attached Thumbnails Last edited by karlosdeville : 30th April 2008 at 10:02.
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