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Old 21st February 2013, 13:44   #811
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Re: Classics of Travancore, Cochin and Malabar

few detailed snaps of the Ford fairline 500 as promised , Enjoy !
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Re: Classics of Travancore, Cochin and Malabar

This Ford Fairline was on display at the just concluded SBT Asianet Auto Expo 2013 at Cochin and was a great attraction there and more pictures are available in the following link. The license plates were masked. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-cochin-2.html

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This Ford Fairline was on display at the just concluded SBT Asianet Auto Expo 2013 at Cochin and was a great attraction there and more pictures are available there. The license plates were masked. Link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-cochin-2.html
It belong to one of my friend, it was bought from ex-minister in central Kerala region hardly 3 yeras back.

His effort behind getting the car to this lime light is commendable.
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It belong to one of my friend, it was bought from ex-minister in central Kerala region hardly 3 yeras back.

His effort behind getting the car to this lime light is commendable.
Does this car have the original V8 engine? also what do you mean by blue printed ? Is the documents of the car not updated?
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few detailed snaps of the Ford fairline 500 as promised , Enjoy !
Was this car ever maroon and in chennai ?

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Re: Classics of Travancore, Cochin and Malabar

Blue printing is all about making sure Most internal stuffs/parts are de-accented, hand washed and inspected pins, pistons and connecting rods are pin fit to specification by cross checking the available details with the factory specs of the model.

@ Ajay I am not sure about the records

That was red, if you check this thread you will find the old snaps of this car
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]Blue printing is all about making sure Most internal stuffs/parts are de-accented, hand washed and inspected pins, pistons and connecting rods are pin fit to specification by cross checking the available details with the factory specs of the model[/b].

@ Ajay I am not sure about the records

That was red, if you check this thread you will find the old snaps of this car
You have still not mentioned whether it has the original V8 engine of this car of some other engine has been fitted?
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You have still not mentioned whether it has the original V8 engine of this car of some other engine has been fitted?
yes the same old one is there
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Was this car ever maroon and in chennai ?
I remember that the person whom I met in the Ford stall during the Asianet Cochin Expo told that this car was earlier in Chennai.
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An old LANDROVER originally from Kottayam now in Cochin
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An old LANDROVER originally from Kottayam now in Cochin
Is it lying in a workshop at tripunithura?
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Blue printing is all about making sure Most internal stuffs/parts are de-accented, hand washed and inspected pins, pistons and connecting rods are pin fit to specification by cross checking the available details with the factory specs of the model.

@ Ajay I am not sure about the records

That was red, if you check this thread you will find the old snaps of this car
What you mentioned is not blue printing , BP is the process where the factory specs are improved upon by reducing machine part clearnaces and improving tolerances. In the old days most engines had imperfections from the factory itself that was the result of the machining an tooling limitations in those days. If you wanted to race an engine your first step would be to remove all these imperfections ; gainin horsepower an efficiency. You need jigs an fixtures to blueprint an engine properly.
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Re: Classics of Travancore, Cochin and Malabar

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Blue printing is all about making sure Most internal stuffs/parts are de-accented, hand washed and inspected pins, pistons and connecting rods are pin fit to specification by cross checking the available details with the factory specs of the model.
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What you mentioned is not blue printing , BP is the process where the factory specs are improved upon by reducing machine part clearnaces and improving tolerances. In the old days most engines had imperfections from the factory itself that was the result of the machining an tooling limitations in those days. If you wanted to race an engine your first step would be to remove all these imperfections ; gainin horsepower an efficiency. You need jigs an fixtures to blueprint an engine properly.
Howler, thanks for balancing what has been posted by Foby.

Slightly OT but I think its apt here as the question has been asked here.

Foby, what you have understood is a version of the layman's interpretation of blue printing. Please don't think of this as a critisism but as a learning process. From the work you have been doing in the forum, you have all the amkings of a "petrolhead". So this is to make you a better one.

I quote below from Wiki (which often is the easy source instead of typing up the whole thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_tuning

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Serious efforts at blueprinting result in better-than-factory tolerances, possibly with custom specifications appropriate for the application. Common goals include engine re-manufacturing to achieve the rated power for its manufacturer's design (because not all mass-production engines put out the rated power), and to rebuild the engine to make more power from a given design than otherwise intended (because custom engines can often be redesigned to different specifications). Blueprinted components allow for a more exact balancing of reciprocating parts and rotating assemblies so that less power is lost through excessive engine vibrations and other mechanical inefficiencies.

Ideally, blueprinting is performed on components removed from the production line before normal balancing and finishing. If finished components are blueprinted, there is the risk that the further removal of material will weaken the component. While it has nothing to do with blueprinting per-Se, lightening components is generally an advantage provided balance and adequate strength are both maintained, and more precise machining will in general strengthen a part by removing stress points, so in many cases performance tuners are able to work with finished components.

For example, an engine manufacturer may list a piston ring end-gap specification of 0.003 to 0.005 inches for general use in a consumer automobile application. For an endurance racing engine which runs hot, a "blueprinted" specification of 0.0045" to 0.0050" may be desired. For a drag-racing engine which runs only in short bursts, a tighter 0.0035 to 0.0040 inch tolerance may be used instead. Thus "blueprint" can mean tighter or looser clearances, depending on the goal.

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So from the above you can see it would be rather difficult to blueprint the engine of a vintage or classic.

In a way you are correct in what you stated as that is what would have been done on the Ford's engine but that clearly is not blueprinting.

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Howler, thanks for balancing what has been posted by Foby.

Slightly OT but I think its apt here as the question has been asked here.

Foby, what you have understood is a version of the layman's interpretation of blue printing. Please don't think of this as a critisism but as a learning process. From the work you have been doing in the forum, you have all the amkings of a "petrolhead". So this is to make you a better one.

I quote below from Wiki (which often is the easy source instead of typing up the whole thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_tuning

Quote:
Serious efforts at blueprinting result in better-than-factory tolerances, possibly with custom specifications appropriate for the application. Common goals include engine re-manufacturing to achieve the rated power for its manufacturer's design (because not all mass-production engines put out the rated power), and to rebuild the engine to make more power from a given design than otherwise intended (because custom engines can often be redesigned to different specifications). Blueprinted components allow for a more exact balancing of reciprocating parts and rotating assemblies so that less power is lost through excessive engine vibrations and other mechanical inefficiencies.

Ideally, blueprinting is performed on components removed from the production line before normal balancing and finishing. If finished components are blueprinted, there is the risk that the further removal of material will weaken the component. While it has nothing to do with blueprinting per-Se, lightening components is generally an advantage provided balance and adequate strength are both maintained, and more precise machining will in general strengthen a part by removing stress points, so in many cases performance tuners are able to work with finished components.

For example, an engine manufacturer may list a piston ring end-gap specification of 0.003 to 0.005 inches for general use in a consumer automobile application. For an endurance racing engine which runs hot, a "blueprinted" specification of 0.0045" to 0.0050" may be desired. For a drag-racing engine which runs only in short bursts, a tighter 0.0035 to 0.0040 inch tolerance may be used instead. Thus "blueprint" can mean tighter or looser clearances, depending on the goal.

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So from the above you can see it would be rather difficult to blueprint the engine of a vintage or classic.

In a way you are correct in what you stated as that is what would have been done on the Ford's engine but that clearly is not blueprinting.

Best Regards & Drive/Ride Safe

Ram
Thank you for that.

Now lets have a sneak peak at the ATS owned Dodge from Cochin which showed up for an auto show last week end
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Re: Classics of Travancore, Cochin and Malabar

LOL...Ram you missed the first paragraph of the Blueprint description and that is the actual meaning.

Basically Blueprinting an engine means bringing it to the exact specs / tolerances etc that were initially created in the design blueprint of the engine.

It basically means bringing the engien back to the manufacturers / designerd original spces

This ususlly results in better performance particularly if the engine is old n well used and has lost its original power.
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