Pilots & his 1950 Mouse Restoration - Fiat Topolino Delivered

samsag12 · 26th October 2010, 19:15

Good going Pavan sir the light color applied does bring out the areas still to be worked on. This restoration seems to be one of the finest restorations i know of with superior quality products being used.
BTW sirji what about the donor car. Is it still there or has been disposed off.

PAVAN KADAM · 26th October 2010, 19:18

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Originally Posted by samsag12

Good going Pavan sir the light color applied does bring out the areas still to be worked on. This restoration seems to be one of the finest restorations i know of with superior quality products being used.
BTW sirji what about the donor car. Is it still there or has been disposed off.

Thank you very much buddy,

Yes, indeed the best of materials are going into the car for any work being done.

And about the Donor car, That will not go anywhere.

We are doing it up after this car is done. But that will be a "sleeper" in the making.

samsag12 · 26th October 2010, 19:36

OK so its on the list of cars to be restored. I am relieved to know that the donor is still giving company to the bug and helping her to get back in shape. Do share some details of the paint prep material used.

manishalive · 26th October 2010, 19:57

Pawan,

Hope this will help understand Dr. Behrams point.

Pilots & his 1950 Mouse Restoration - Fiat Topolino Delivered-leaf-spring.jpg

PAVAN KADAM · 26th October 2010, 23:41

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Originally Posted by samsag12

OK so its on the list of cars to be restored. I am relieved to know that the donor is still giving company to the bug and helping her to get back in shape. Do share some details of the paint prep material used.

With me no car will go as scrap. I consider it sacrilege if something else is done on the car than running on road.

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Originally Posted by manishalive

Pawan,

Hope this will help understand Dr. Behrams point.

Attachment 444279

Yes Manish, i Got what Behram sir mentioned.

Initially i had got it wrong, but the second time the bolt angle was perfect.

PAVAN KADAM · 27th October 2010, 18:20

The primer work is 90% done

Just the underchassis pending, which will be done once we remove the body off the chassis.

The suspension set-up is now looking good, the car has got its perfect height as per me and my mechanic.

The engine also is plonked in. Hopefully we plan to do the test trials after the radiator is fitted. Maybe tomorrow.

manishalive · 27th October 2010, 20:27

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Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

Yes Manish, i Got what Behram sir mentioned.

ok now do you need that whole manual in PDF form :O}, will tansfer to your mobile when we meet.

PAVAN KADAM · 27th October 2010, 21:55

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Originally Posted by manishalive

ok now do you need that whole manual in PDF form :O}, will tansfer to your mobile when we meet.

AirBusDriver (Joy) has it with him , same sent by Karlosdeville which earlier belonged to Kersi Bastawala.

Well its been ages since i met AirBusDriver, so not had a chance to go through the manual.

Wow, do you have the Fiat Topolino Manual? If yes, i would love to see it.

manishalive · 27th October 2010, 22:08

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Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

AirBusDriver (Joy) has it with him , same sent by Karlosdeville which earlier belonged to Kersi Bastawala.

Well its been ages since i met AirBusDriver, so not had a chance to go through the manual.

Wow, do you have the Fiat Topolino Manual? If yes, i would love to see it.

I have Fiat 1100 workshop manual

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PAVAN KADAM · 9th November 2010, 17:03

Updates not much, but the body tapping is going on for the second time now.

We sprayed the etching primer and found few more places where the body needs a bit of beating. The tinker is taking it slow, but his job is good, so need to give a bit of leeway for that guy.

The engine is not an issue right now, since its starting and running, we are fabricating the accelerator pedal,which in this car is absent.

Once that is done, we will be testing the car extensively with all fittings before sending it off for painting.

PAVAN KADAM · 26th November 2010, 22:40

Endless wait for the body banger.

He comes today and gone for another 10 days,

I finally found someone who can do this kind of job, these guys had worked way back with me during my VW Bus build up, and presently doing one of my other restoration also. They come handy when my regular tinker would vanish.

Day 2 into their workshop

PAVAN KADAM · 27th November 2010, 13:31

A can of worms rolled out once the Chassis and body was seperated

Corrosion Corrosion corrosion....! goodness, how on earth........!

The chassis has lost some of its main strengthening points which i need to re-do, will take some effort and time, but we intent to have a deadline of 10 days for the chassis.

Firstly - I will be getting the whole of the chassis grinded and scraped.

Second - A good 2 coats of Etching primer

Third - 2 coats of Wurth or 3M antirust coating

PAVAN KADAM · 29th November 2010, 09:50

Work started in full swing today morning.

Works that will be carried out in the next 5 days.

1) Providing strengths to most of the weakened points on the chassis

2) Welding and replacing rusted parts of the Chassis

3) Sanding it down by hand

4) 2 coats of primer

5) 3 coats of 3M or Wurth Antirust coating

PAVAN KADAM · 29th November 2010, 18:33

Getting the correct guage of metal for this Chassis is becoming a NIGHTMARE.....!

Whole day is lost, and we are either getting a higher guage (Low thickness) or the lower Guage(Really Thick) Hopefully tomorrow's search might prove lucky. There are also efforts to salvage the complete Chassis from the DONOR CAR, but i think we will save that too very soon.

The Handbrake is coupled to the diffrential propeller, need the rubber coupling, any Fiat guys can lead me to something similar................?

samsag12 · 29th November 2010, 18:48

Pavan ji looking at the pics of the chassis i think it seriously needs some thorough sand blasting. Another option would be to machine grind the chassis, the same thing which Manish (manishalive) is using for his car. Do share the progress on the same.

26th October 2010, 19:15	#181
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	Good going Pavan sir the light color applied does bring out the areas still to be worked on. This restoration seems to be one of the finest restorations i know of with superior quality products being used. BTW sirji what about the donor car. Is it still there or has been disposed off.
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26th October 2010, 19:36	#183
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	OK so its on the list of cars to be restored. I am relieved to know that the donor is still giving company to the bug and helping her to get back in shape. Do share some details of the paint prep material used.
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26th October 2010, 19:57	#184
manishalive Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,514 Thanked: 1,079 Times	Pawan, Hope this will help understand Dr. Behrams point.
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27th October 2010, 18:20	#186
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	The primer work is 90% done Just the underchassis pending, which will be done once we remove the body off the chassis. The suspension set-up is now looking good, the car has got its perfect height as per me and my mechanic. The engine also is plonked in. Hopefully we plan to do the test trials after the radiator is fitted. Maybe tomorrow. Attached Thumbnails
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9th November 2010, 17:03	#190
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Updates not much, but the body tapping is going on for the second time now. We sprayed the etching primer and found few more places where the body needs a bit of beating. The tinker is taking it slow, but his job is good, so need to give a bit of leeway for that guy. The engine is not an issue right now, since its starting and running, we are fabricating the accelerator pedal,which in this car is absent. Once that is done, we will be testing the car extensively with all fittings before sending it off for painting. Attached Thumbnails
	() Thanks

26th November 2010, 22:40	#191
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Endless wait for the body banger. He comes today and gone for another 10 days, I finally found someone who can do this kind of job, these guys had worked way back with me during my VW Bus build up, and presently doing one of my other restoration also. They come handy when my regular tinker would vanish. Day 2 into their workshop Attached Thumbnails
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27th November 2010, 13:31	#192
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Work on Chassis A can of worms rolled out once the Chassis and body was seperated Corrosion Corrosion corrosion....! goodness, how on earth........! The chassis has lost some of its main strengthening points which i need to re-do, will take some effort and time, but we intent to have a deadline of 10 days for the chassis. Firstly - I will be getting the whole of the chassis grinded and scraped. Second - A good 2 coats of Etching primer Third - 2 coats of Wurth or 3M antirust coating Attached Thumbnails
	() Thanks

29th November 2010, 09:50	#193
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Work started in full swing today morning. Works that will be carried out in the next 5 days. 1) Providing strengths to most of the weakened points on the chassis 2) Welding and replacing rusted parts of the Chassis 3) Sanding it down by hand 4) 2 coats of primer 5) 3 coats of 3M or Wurth Antirust coating
	() Thanks

29th November 2010, 18:33	#194
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Getting the correct guage of metal for this Chassis is becoming a NIGHTMARE.....! Whole day is lost, and we are either getting a higher guage (Low thickness) or the lower Guage(Really Thick) Hopefully tomorrow's search might prove lucky. There are also efforts to salvage the complete Chassis from the DONOR CAR, but i think we will save that too very soon. The Handbrake is coupled to the diffrential propeller, need the rubber coupling, any Fiat guys can lead me to something similar................? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by PAVAN KADAM : 29th November 2010 at 18:37.
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29th November 2010, 18:48	#195
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,624 Thanked: 242 Times View My Garage	Pavan ji looking at the pics of the chassis i think it seriously needs some thorough sand blasting. Another option would be to machine grind the chassis, the same thing which Manish (manishalive) is using for his car. Do share the progress on the same.
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