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Old 15th January 2019, 11:18   #61
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Thanks guys for taking time to respond to my query!

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I did like the Tiago, but the petrol engine is lacklustre compared to the ones you get in Maruti - Ignis for example is much better, engine wise.

After all the looking around, I feel it will either be Ignis or the Freestyle.
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One big drawback with the Ignis is, overall cabin feel (due to the decade old knobs) doesn't give me the feeling of an 'upgrade'. It practically uses the same AC controls as their 12-year old Alto! (Delta/Zeta AMT - I can't fathom paying over 8 lakhs for Alpha AMT). OTOH, Freestyle's cabin feels a lot more modern. And ofcourse, theres the class leading safety feature list - ABS, 6 Airbags, ESP, HLA, TCS, ARP. There is also a whole host of feel good things like Android Auto, Auto AC, Auto Wipers, Auto Headlamps, Rear sensors/camera etc. At ~8 lakhs on-road Delhi - it definitely feels the best bang for the buck. Do check it out if you haven't yet.
Thanks for pointing me towards this direction. I have not completely given up on booking an Ignis but Freestyle is something that I will check out. Based on the feature list, it does feel bang for the buck.


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Yes but personally I feel that the build quality and other features compensate the lack of NVH and rear camera.

Additionally, you can also look at the Hyundai Grand i10. The Sportz(O) variant comes with an AT as well as a rear camera and Android Auto/Apple CarPlay. Also with the next generation expected soon, there are some huge discounts going on. Hyundai after sales support is also excellent. The only downside here I think, is that it doesn't get adjustable headrests

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Unfortunately, rear camera has sort of become a must have for me. It just gives me some confidence while reversing the car and since my wife will mainly be using the car, it will give me even more confidence while she's reversing

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1. Tata Tiago Revotron XZ+ : VFM, would check almost all the boxes except fuel economy and ASS is a hit or miss.
2. Maruti Suzuki Swift ZXI/ZXI+: Ideal car for you IMO according to your requirements, also the ladies generally have a major liking for the car especially in red colour

3. Ford Freestyle Titanium/ Plus: Another great car, really VFM but it doesn't come with rear adjustable headrests I guess and not sure about its fuel economy.

4. Maruti Suzuki Ignis Alpha: Already ruled out I think but a great option for your requirements.

Since you are not in a hurry, you can also wait for the Ford Figo hatchback which has a facelift due and will be even cheaper than the Freestyle!
Hope this helps! Happy Shopping

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1. Tiago I think lacks another feature which is rear parking camera. I understand that the sensors are sufficient but having a camera feels good.
2. We already have a swift in the household, so I'm a little hesitant to go for it.
3. Freestyle is something that I am going to look at.
4. Ignis hasn't been ruled out - it's just that I had a bad experience with this particular showroom so I might just hop over to another one. It definitely ticks all the boxes though.

Also, I doubt whether Figo facelift would undercut Freestyle. Currently Figo is priced above Freestyle, so I would expect that to continue.
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Old 15th January 2019, 12:08   #62
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Unfortunately, rear camera has sort of become a must have for me. It just gives me some confidence while reversing the car and since my wife will mainly be using the car, it will give me even more confidence while she's reversing
That is why I mentioned the Grand i10. Overall, it seems like a very good package and even I almost ended up buying one. It satisfies all your requirements except adjustable headrests but even the fixed ones, I feel are adequate unlike the ones on the Jazz.

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Based on the suggestions above, I'm going to TD Grand i10 over the weekend and perhaps also hop over to the Tata showroom and TD the Tiago.

In the interest of being informed, if I were to up my budget to 10lakhs, is the Nexon the best bang for buck, assuming all other criteria remain unchanged?

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I'm looking to buy a car that will be used for city commute and the occasional trip outside the city. It will mainly be used by my wife but I will be driving it occasionally too.
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Based on the suggestions above, I'm going to TD Grand i10 over the weekend and perhaps also hop over to the Tata showroom and TD the Tiago.
TATA Service is not up to the mark everywhere. Although their products in recent times are competent, I would wait till they prove themselves in the long run.
New Grand i10 is expected. If it is radically NEW, you would be disappointed if you buy one now. Santro Amt can also be considered. A requirement for AT any time in the future for whatever reasons will not need a new purchase then. Heard good things about Hyundai AMT.
Baleno is a good choice. Test drive one. A 2018 one might not be entirely old compared to the new updated car. You can strike a sweet deal.
Please fix your budget first. If you increase it a little, more confusion comes your way.
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What's the general consensus on buying a car from the top spec of one segment versus buying a mid variant one from a segment above?
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What's the general consensus on buying a car from the top spec of one segment versus buying a mid variant one from a segment above?
Well, I can tell you that that the general consensus would be very difficult to determine and is quite subjective. I feel that the choice of the car would vary depending upon the actual product(s) being compared.

That being said, I have seen most of the people on the forum advocating the top end variant of one segment over the entry/mid variant of the next segment. Though that is not something I agree with.

It would be interesting to have a poll on this.
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Thanks for pointing me towards this direction. I have not completely given up on booking an Ignis but Freestyle is something that I will check out. Based on the feature list, it does feel bang for the buck.
When I was in the market 5 months back to buy a hatch, I test drove the Ignis, Freestyle and Swift. My wife was insisting on the swift.

My main requirements apart from airbags and ABS were
1. Rear defogger and wiper (non negotiable)
2. A peppy car (non negotiable again)
3. Good ground clearance
4. Power folding mirrors
5. Keyless entry and go (negotiable)
6. Decent space
7. Small footprint (the main reason to buy a second car)
8. Adjustable headrests atleast for front

All 3 were good cars but I didnt want to cross 6.25L OTR Delhi if possible.

Now with that bugdet only 2 cars were near it. Ignis Zeta and Swift Vxi. Freestyle was 6.8L for the Trend model. However the latter 2 didnot have rear wiper and defogger.

However Ignis Zeta at 6.12L was giving me Rear wiper & defogger, alloys, rear parking sensor, keyless entry and go (start stop button) over and above the Swift Vxi at 20k less. Additionally it was a car with shorter wheel base and higher ground clearance at 180mm. Basically all the 7 points mentioned above. What I would have liked was driver seat height adjust (though I haven't missed it), touch screen and auto ac. This meant going for the Alpha and I didn't want to pay more than a lakh for it.

After 5 months of ownership I consider the Ignis as one of my best decisions yet. I am saying this after not just driving to office in Delhi traffic but after doing a Delhi Kolkata Delhi round trip in the car. It was above my expectations. Immensely stable at triple digit speeds, peppy car with a power to ratio of near 100bhp, GC helped in taking it off the road at chocked toll gates, stiff suspension ensured less body roll and decent handling at high speeds and great brakes. Onward journey was me alone where I stayed at Allahabad for night but while returning I had a friend joining me and we did non stop Kolkata to Delhi in 22 hrs with breaks for tea and dinner only. Zero fatigue or tiredness. As a bonus I got 19+ as average FE for the entire to and fro journey with spirited driving throughout measured tankful to tankful (I use an app to record fillups and kms)

Ignis is a great car, however if you have the budget go for Freestyle Titanium Plus, not any other variant. Else Ignis Alpha MT is a great choice and cheaper by a lakh. With the ongoing discounts for 2018 cars, since they are bringing in a facelift, it will be nearly 1.75L cheaper.
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