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Old 11th February 2019, 15:17   #31
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It's time for me to ask the age old question, again!

Some may recall my earlier post here:
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Agree it may be tough - but for me what's tougher is letting go of a perfectly good car that's fully paid up for, only 2/3rd of the way into the lifetime. To add insult to injury, I would have to pony up Rs 24 Lakhs for a replacement , which by most technical accounts is not a worthy successor to the one I have!

I would rather argue the point with the cops, assuage any hard feelings with "tea-money", and be on my way. On the face of it, even if I do get challenged 5 times a year - that's just Rs 500/- per year for the next 6 years. A small price to pay- to stand for what's right!
And that was definitely an underestimate - of the power of the NGT! But then, in retrospect, I had no way of knowing that the 10 year rule applicable for diesel vehicles was to be enforced with a certain gusto!

As recently as January 2019, I was stopped by a cop , demanding my R3's (Raging Red Rover (R3) - My Mahindra Scorpio S10 4x4) papers, ostensibly to impound him and fine me ₹ 5000 on the spot! It was yet another matter, that he followed with a sheepish grin, on being told that he became a family member 3 years ago.
Fast forward a couple weeks later, when on the regular PUC check of our Milemuncher Innova VX 2009 (Diesel), I was told that onwards from the 10th year, no PUC station in New Delhi will be able to perform a PUC check on her. Simply, the software will not allow it.

Given that it takes a few weeks to have the RTO issue an NOC for a vehicle to be transferred to a state where the NGTs writ does not yet apply, I have decided to start the search for a new vehicle to replace the Milemuncher.

Here are our requirements that we can't compromise on, so I welcome & look forward to your views and opinions.


a) D.E.P.E.N.D.A.B.I.L.I.T.Y.
I cannot stress this enough. We need a bullet proof car. No , not just the engine and/or transmission. The whole car.
To us, this means the quality of design, engineering and manufacture cannot leave the tiniest sliver of doubt.
We would rather sacrifice a few bells and whistles, in preference to this single strength.

b) Safety
All cars sold in India try and sell this as a key feature. Yes that's good. But, what do we mean when we say safety? We mean a car that left the factory with a rugged monocoque frame, side-impact beams, ABS and dual front air-bags, both side-view mirrors and inertia fuel-cut-off switch.

c) Visibility
We don't want a driving experience wherein , one seems to be lost somewhere inside the cabin, occasionally peeking out the windshield for a good dekko of the road ahead. We are used to an Innova and Scorpio - and the commanding view in the front is something that we can't compromise much on.

d) Agility
While R3 would continue to grace the stable, given that the new family member would be primarily used for in-city run-abouts, we need a car that's small and nimble. Open to hatchbacks & small sedan suggestions - on a petrol platform. Also open to All-Electric suggestions. Not OK with other alternative "green" fuel technologies- we just don't have the time or energy to devote towards standing in serpentine Q's and/or sacrifice boot space. Not OK with hybrid technologies - these have not stood the test of time in crazy Indian conditions.

e) Great Service
The product has to be backed up by a great warranty, and brilliant service (at least in NCR). By brilliant service we mean - manufacturer/dealer that have considerably less mechanic attrition at their workshop(s) than the competition; institutionalized continuous & quality training on scheduled service , running repair jobs , superb diagnostic skills ; comply well-documented workshop procedures; have access to on-demand parts availability even for low-value , low velocity products - e.g. interior plastics.

f) Ample Interior Space
We are used to the spaciousness of the Innova. We dislike the cramped pigeon-hole experience of the Scorpio.
So, we would really like something that approaches the holy-grail like experience of the Innova , but, in a small package!

g) Passenger comfort
Our basic needs will be met with a brilliant AC (capable of chilling the cabin @ 50 C and power-steering.

h) Cost
I would like to put it this way... We can add maybe a lakh or two, to whatever we get for our beloved Milemuncher. At current market rates - that's like ₹ 4 lakh - ₹ 6 lakh on-road.
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I would like to put it this way... We can add maybe a lakh or two, to whatever we get for our beloved Milemuncher. At current market rates - that's like ₹ 4 lakh - ₹ 6 lakh on-road.

I would suggest checkout the Nexon XM petrol - it is around 8 lakhs on-road presently in the NCR with some offers running. I guess you could get it down a bit. I know it would still be over the figures you mention but I guess it would be worth the dough. Why?
- 5 star safety rating
- Ample space
- High seating - guessing you would prefer a higher seating, coming from the R3 and Innova
- Decently spec'd, you get all the basic necessities, at least as of Feb 2019 - with TML's obsession of deleting features don't know how long this will hold true.
- Decent to drive. I was pleasantly surprised by the response from the petrol mill.
- HIGH ground clearance - no problems in flooded streets or broken tarmac. Coming from R3 and Innova I guess you would like it.

All said, include it in your list of TD at least even if you aren't inclined towards it yet.
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So, we would really like something that approaches the holy-grail like experience of the Innova , but, in a small package!
Replace the Innova with the mini Innova, aka Ertiga. You might exceed the budget by a bit, but you would get nearly all the experience you were getting with Ertiga, as the 5 seating Ertiga with 3rd row folded is amongst the most spacious cars.

Since you mention city car, I would also recommend Baleno Delta CVT. Spacious car, with sufficient features and and automatic for the city traffic.

Thirdly, would recommend that you check out Amaze. It has great visibility, oodles of space, and a very practical city car. You can consider the automatic too.
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Hi Joy,

Assuming a budget of 7L, I'd suggest the Baleno Delta followed by the i10 Grand. With discounts, which are omnipresent on the Grand i10, you can easily get it for around the 7L mark.

If you don't have an immediate requirement for this new buy, then the 'Toyota Baleno' is a car which is worth waiting for.
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Thanks to all members for helping to finalize my car. Took delivery of Polo GT TSI.

In love with the super smooth DSG gearbox and this car is hoot to drive in sports mode. The engine sounds quite different like a sports car.

Trying to quickly clock 1000 kms to finish of with the initial running-in period. SA told it is not required with new cars now but there is no harm in following the old school process.

Upgraded the tires from MRF 195/55 R16 to Pirelli 205/55 R16 the latter are far better than stock tires and I can feel the difference within 100kms of drive on stock. Ah I feel very bad I didn't upgraded for my Endeavour which is still running on cheap MRF's at 26k on odo.
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TTook delivery of Polo GT TSI.
Congrats to you and your family for the new acquisition. It does look lovely in the Red colour. Enjoy the ride.
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Whats the on-road price friend, can you please share?
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