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Old 23rd January 2020, 13:26   #31
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I have a 2007 Corolla that I need to sell and want a new Yaris/Honda/Creta or a used Corolla. Only automatic. No other choices. Specifically I wanted advice on 2 options
1. Certified cars from Mahindra, Cars24, etc
2. Pay more and get a certified used car from Toyota or Honda. They certify only their make.

For me, paying more is not a problem but getting higher probability of a good car is paramount. I feel that paying more at Toyota/Honda is more VFM in the long run. Is that true???. I am 53 with hardly 500-600 km of driving per month and so a 15-30K Toyota/Honda auto car with 10+ year of registration would be ideal.
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I have been searching for an used automatic car for my wife for quite some time. A close friend of mine is selling a 2019(March)Tiago XZA that has clocked roughly 4k km.

I am a bit in the dark regarding the reliability of the Tiagos. Also, I am not quite sure of the used car prices for Tiagos at present, so, would really appreciate if anyone could also suggest what a good price could be.
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If you know hes selling it for a valid reason like moving out of the city then feel free, it is a good car.

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I have been searching for an used automatic car for my wife for quite some time. A close friend of mine is selling a 2019(March)Tiago XZA that has clocked roughly 4k km.

I am a bit in the dark regarding the reliability of the Tiagos. Also, I am not quite sure of the used car prices for Tiagos at present, so, would really appreciate if anyone could also suggest what a good price could be.
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In my view, the safest way to buy a good reliable automatic used car is - Buy a low mileage Toyota or a Honda. Period.
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I have been searching for an used automatic car for my wife for quite some time. A close friend of mine is selling a 2019(March)Tiago XZA that has clocked roughly 4k km.

I am a bit in the dark regarding the reliability of the Tiagos. Also, I am not quite sure of the used car prices for Tiagos at present, so, would really appreciate if anyone could also suggest what a good price could be.
Although many of us may have said earlier, elsewhere in this thread or other threads, it is worth repeating:

* You must consider the pros/cons of the different automatics (AMT, CVT and TC). AMTs are known to be a bit jerky during gear-shifts, and I find it a challenge when reversing.
* TCs are best for driving comfort and typically deliver lower mileage, but is my preference.

We have an 8 year old Hyundai i10 automatic (Torque Converter) and it has been a wonderful vehicle to own and drive - although we have done only about 3K kms /year.
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* You must consider the pros/cons of the different automatics (AMT, CVT and TC). AMTs are known to be a bit jerky during gear-shifts, and I find it a challenge when reversing.
* TCs are best for driving comfort and typically deliver lower mileage, but is my preference.
I really appreciate your suggestions regarding AMT/CVT/TC. I did try to find CVT and TC models initially, in the used market but couldn't get hold of a good one. I have a few limitations at the moment - not being in town and so no one else to go around and have a look before I buy one.

Also, the one I am planning to buy will primarily be used by my wife and all she cares is something that would be reliable. The ones she has driven till date were all AMTs and seems to be fine with it. I'm sure she would be surprised once she gets her hand on one of those TC or CVTs ones.

On a lighter note, when the person in question, was visiting me for the first time, I picked her up from the airport in a Jaguar XE 3.0 V6 Supercharged S. On the way back to our apartment, I casually asked her what car we were in. She said - "A big black car!"

PS : I love my wife!
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I may be wrong here but these are my personal views. Manual transmission cars (especially smooth petrol ones) with an extremely light clutch and slick shifting gearbox will eliminate the need for an automatic all together. So you can browse through TBHP reviews and focus on this aspect and test the car if available for a drive. Nothing can beat the efficiency, reliability and responsiveness of a manual.
I was really upset to see the response time of many of these automatic gearboxes. DSG may be better but then it's not reliable. CVT the less said the better, in fact I find CVT so bad and useless that I'll rate an AMT above it any day.
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This is interesting. Could you list which cars have the light clutch/slick gearbox which can eliminate autobox purchase. Probably in hatchback segment.
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This is interesting. Could you list which cars have the light clutch/slick gearbox which can eliminate autobox purchase. Probably in hatchback segment.
Hi, I can't comment on the MT hatchbacks as such since most of them which I had driven were automatic and based on which I gave my opinion sometime back. But I can give my views on MT sedan.
I have a 2008 City Zx and it is a breeze to drive in Bangalore traffic even though it's a manual transmission car.
I shall assume the same for newer generations of City too.
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I am looking to buy an automatic car for myself (and maybe wifey may learn to drive-not sure though). I have not learnt driving till now(47 years of age), though I do drive a geared two wheeler and scootys as well.

I was advised by one of my friend who moved from manual (Mitsubishi lancer) to AMT ( Ignis) to buy an automatic car only because of the driving comfort (In Mumbai traffic) and the ease of learning to drive an automatic car.
My requirement is for the city drives from home to office for either my wife or me or both and occasional forays into long distance destinations for our yearly trips as well as some forays into nature spots on the outskirts of the city for my passion: photography.

I have finalized two cars:
1. Tata Tigor for its safety features and robust build ( Looking at an AMT variant which is a test drive car August 2017 make having clocked only 11K kms and getting it for 4.15 lacs -including transfers, one year warranty and refurbishing and parts replacement by Tata Motors authorised dealer.

What I like are the safety features, the boot space and conveneience of the AMT. What I am worried is about all the negative feedback of the AMT in the Tiago, not many from the Tigor though-but being the same engine has me worried. Maybe the expert owners of the Tigor aotomatic on this forum will be able to help me out, myself being a first time driver.

I have personally spoken to 3-4 owners of Tigor automatic owners and though they have not found about the transmission problems with their cars,
I am not entirely sure whether to go ahead with this deal (and it's a graet one, I know).

Another problem , specific to me is my height which is 5 ft. 3 " inches which may be a cause of concern (I know its all in the mind) as I am not able to see even a small part of the road immediately ahead of me even with the seat fully raised.

2. My second choice is the Ignis AMT 2017 make with around 6K kms and 14K Kms on the odo ( two different cars). Better visibility in this car as compared to the Tigor but not by a wide margin.

What I liked in the Ignis is the smooth transmission and the noise free engine. Also I have not found any bad reviews of the AMT in Ignis as opposed to the problems with the Celerio or the Wagon R.

What I am worried about is the build quality of Maruti suzuki cars, I know the Ignis has a 3 star rating ( Whether the car tested is the one available in the Indian market, I am not sure ) and the suspension.

The Ignis is available at the cost of minimum 5 lacs ( nothing below that for the Zeta version AMT)

3. I have also looked at the Amaze and the Jazz but have not heard much about the automatic variants of both and don't have much information about the problems associated with buying used cars from amongst the Amaze and Jazz. Though had read a thread which mentioned a list of problems to look out for when buying a used Honda Amaze/Jazz.

https://www.breakerlink.com/blog/car...mmon-problems/

https://www.carwale.com/honda-cars/a...reviews/56938/

Did also look at used Hyundai Grand i 10s but some safety features are missing, fuel efficiency is very bad and the cost of used cars from Hyundai as well as Maruti is too much.


Why I am going for a used car in the first place is that I don't want to keep my Loan tenure for a longer period. Expect the car to at least 6-7 years.

My first priority is safety over mileage.

Experts please advice. Any other suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance.

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I am looking to buy an automatic car for myself (and maybe wifey may learn to drive-not sure though).
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My requirement is for the city drives from home to office for either my wife or me or both and occasional forays into long distance destinations for our yearly trips as well as some forays into nature spots on the outskirts of the city for my passion: photography.
You didn't mention about your backseat space requirements so I assume anything works for you on that front.

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I have finalized two cars:
1. Tata Tigor
2. My second choice is the Ignis AMT 2017 make with around 6K kms and 14K Kms on the odo ( two different cars).

What I am worried about is the build quality of Maruti suzuki cars, I know the Ignis has a 3 star rating ( Whether the car tested is the one available in the Indian market, I am not sure ) and the suspension.

The Ignis is available at the cost of minimum 5 lacs ( nothing below that for the Zeta version AMT)
Between these two, I would suggest the Ignis purely from a reliability and maintenance point of view, especially considering you are a first time owner, this is a preowned buy and the car will have already aged. Tatas don't age very well, and the Tiago does have quite a bit of feedback in this (reliability and maintenance) regard as you have mentioned.

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3. I have also looked at the Amaze and the Jazz but have not heard much about the automatic variants of both and don't have much information about the problems associated with buying used cars from amongst the Amaze and Jazz.
The Jazz should perfectly tick most of your boxes. The CVT automatic variant is bulletproof, easy to drive, versatile, will match your budget and is very low on maintenance and high on reliability and practicality. Considering you plan to keep this car for a long time and use it in various roles, the Jazz will be a very strong contender for you to consider along with the Ignis that you seem to have already shortlisted.

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Did also look at used Hyundai Grand i 10s but some safety features are missing, fuel efficiency is very bad and the cost of used cars from Hyundai as well as Maruti is too much.
The Grand i10 isn't a bad car by itself but Hyundai's maintenance is definitely higher than the Japs, and the 4-speed automatic gearbox with the 1.2 petrol is a gas guzzler and runs out of breath on highways. It is probably only good if the intention is to make it a pure urban commuter. I wouldn't recommend this car for a city-highway dual purpose use vehicle.

If I were you, I'd look at preowned examples of the Jazz first, then the Ignis and then anything else . Good luck with your purchase!
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Thank you Mr. Karthik for your detailed response. Highly appreciate the gesture.

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Few options given your requirements.

1) Honda Brio TC - Good one and pretty responsive for both city and highway usage. Honda service should not be an issue. But, its an old model. VX has ABS/AIRBAG.
2) Maruti A-Star AT TC - Good, responsive, only for city drive. Highways occasionally. Comes with ABS in automatic.
3) Honda City ANHC AT TC (2010-2014) - Good engine, good for city and highways, comes with all safety features
4) Toyota Corolla Automatic - Good engine, good for city and highways, comes with all safety features

Above models would be reasonably priced.

5) Maruti Ignis AMT - Good responsive engine and safety features. High cost.
6) Hyundai Grand i10 - Good responsive engine. But safety feature only in Asta Optional. Thats the bad part. Else, this is very good for city usage.
7) WagonR & Ritz were also launched few years back with TC automatic versions. Check them.
8) Tiago AMT - Good overall package. Issue with engine response in few models due to road inclination. Not in all. There are some threads in TBHP and also youtube which discusses. Otherwise, Tiago/Tigor comes with all bells/whistles.

Need to bargain hard for Ignis/Grandi10. Since, its first time buyer you can go for Maruti A-Star and later move to better automatics. AMT will always have rubber band effect. Need to get used to it. Hope it helps.

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I am looking to buy an automatic car for myself (and maybe wifey may learn to drive-not sure though). I have not learnt driving till now(47 years of age), though I do drive a geared two wheeler and scootys as well.

I was advised by one of my friend who moved from manual (Mitsubishi lancer) to AMT ( Ignis) to buy an automatic car only because of the driving comfort (In Mumbai traffic) and the ease of learning to drive an automatic car.
Why I am going for a used car in the first place is that I don't want to keep my Loan tenure for a longer period. Expect the car to at least 6-7 years.

My first priority is safety over mileage.
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Few options given your requirements.
Need to bargain hard for Ignis/Grandi10. Since, its first time buyer you can go for Maruti A-Star and later move to better automatics. AMT will always have rubber band effect. Need to get used to it. Hope it helps.
Thank you so much for all the options that you have listed Sir. Was trying hard bargain on the Ignis but to no avail. The dealers won't budge.

Actually have fallen in love with the Tigor but my height and the issues with the engine response have made me rethink.
I think the best option would be to get some more information from actual Tigor users, waiting for their response.

Thank you again.

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@makaarand: I hope you have already gone through this thread on Tata Tiago/Tigor.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...-issues-2.html (Tata Tiago/Tigor AMT: Driveability issues). GTO and others have already mentioned good information.

Also, check this info:

Lot of info for your decision making. No doubt its a good car.
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I am looking to buy an automatic car for myself (and maybe wifey may learn to drive-not sure though). I have not learnt driving till now(47 years of age)

My requirement is for the city drives from home to office for either my wife or me or both and occasional forays into long distance destinations for our yearly trips as well as some forays into nature spots on the outskirts of the city for my passion: photography.

Why I am going for a used car in the first place is that I don't want to keep my Loan tenure for a longer period. Expect the car to at least 6-7 years.

My first priority is safety over mileage.
Do you plan to learn to drive first, and then buy the car? Or the other way around? If it’s the former, buy a car which fits your needs + reliable. If it’s the latter, it needs to be able to take the abuse of a new driver under training as well.

KarthikK has given you excellent advice above.

No matter which used car you buy, YOU HAVE TO get it checked thoroughly by a trusted mechanic/service centre. Ask them for a detailed report on the service history and the current health of the engine & automatic transmission as the condition of those 2 components are the biggest factors which will affect your buying decision. If either of them aren’t in perfect running shape, walk away from the deal.

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Between these two, I would suggest the Ignis purely from a reliability and maintenance point of view, especially considering you are a first time owner, this is a preowned buy and the car will have already aged.


The Jazz should perfectly tick most of your boxes. The CVT automatic variant is bulletproof, easy to drive, versatile, will match your budget and is very low on maintenance and high on reliability and practicality. Considering you plan to keep this car for a long time and use it in various roles, the Jazz will be a very strong contender for you to consider along with the Ignis that you seem to have already shortlisted.

If I were you, I'd look at preowned examples of the Jazz first, then the Ignis and then anything else . Good luck with your purchase!
+1 to the Honda Jazz CVT. You want the used car to last for 6-7 yrs so stick to the Japanese as they will be the most reliable as the car ages. Tread carefully with the AMT as it’s relatively new technology and the long term reliability is unknown. You don’t want to be the test guinea pig, play it safe with a CVT. It is your first car ever, don’t ruin the ownership experience by choosing the wrong car.

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Few options given your requirements.

1) Honda Brio TC - Good one and pretty responsive for both city and highway usage. Honda service should not be an issue. But, its an old model. 3) Honda City ANHC AT TC (2010-2014) - Good engine, good for city and highways, comes with all safety features
4) Toyota Corolla Automatic - Good engine, good for city and highways, comes with all safety features.
This will be his first car purchase in his life. And he has made it clear he wants a safe & reliable automatic car to last him 6-7yrs. You can instantly rule out most Marutis barring a few, Tata after sales in case of failures may be a nightmare for a first time owner. Buying a used Corolla might not be the brightest idea for a first time car owner in Bombay (due to its size).

In my opinion, his realistic options (new/used) are the Jazz, Ignis, City & Yaris. If he was an experienced driver however, the possibilities are endless.

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