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Old 5th August 2022, 09:45   #1
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My dad (70 year old) is selling his Vento Diesel and is looking for a car to replace it. The Vento is getting replaced due to high cost of maintaining the car. He was quoted a 1.5 lakh+ amount for ECU replacement, and although he managed to get it repaired outside the Volkswagen service center, he is scared of future troubles.

His requirements are the following:

1. Budget 15 lakhs OTR in Kerala which can be stretched by a maximum of 1 lakh.
2. Should not be sluggish, and should have adequate power for quick overtakes.
3. 5 seater, preferably diesel (his running just not justify a diesel, but he likes diesel cars)
4. No Volkswagen/Skoda cars

Unfortunately, he will not buy an electric car I am trying to convince him to buy a petrol car and he seems to like the Hyryder/Vitara. Please recommend any other cars that can be considered.
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My dad (70 year old) is selling his Vento Diesel and is looking for a car to replace it. The Vento is getting replaced due to high cost of maintaining the car. He was quoted a 1.5 lakh+ amount for ECU replacement, and although he managed to get it repaired outside the Volkswagen service center, he is scared of future troubles.
Considering your father's age, it would be better to go for an Automatic transmission car preferably SUV for the ease of ingress and egress and driving position and since he used to drive a Vento sedan, anything below it wouldn't be much of an upgrade.

If he is stubborn on getting a diesel, the best diesel automatic car under this budget would be the Kia Sonet HTX Diesel AT, other automatic cars in this range are mostly AMT and I wouldn't recommend that when you are spending 15 lakhs.

If we wants a bigger car, I'd recommend the Hyundai Creta/ Kia Seltos Diesel Manual or Petrol IMT (clutch less manual)

if a bigger car with an automatic is what you need the MG Astor CVT could do too but mileage would be on the lower side, the engine isn't the peppiest either.

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Considering your father's age, it would be better to go for an Automatic transmission car preferably SUV for the ease of ingress and egress and driving position and since he used to drive a Vento sedan, anything below it wouldn't be much of an upgrade.

If he is stubborn on getting a diesel, the best diesel automatic car under this budget would be the Kia Sonet HTX Diesel AT

If we wants a bigger car, I'd recommend the Hyundai Creta/ Kia Seltos Diesel Manual or Petrol IMT (clutch less manual)
Thank you for your response. He is not really looking for an upgrade, and a similar car would also be fine. He likes everything about the Vento except the potential for huge repair bills. He is more comfortable spending some money on a new car instead.

He doesn't like/want automatics. He was considering the Creta and City, and is waiting to know the price for the Vitara and Hyryder.
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Thank you for your response. He is not really looking for an upgrade, and a similar car would also be fine. He likes everything about the Vento except the potential for huge repair bills. He is more comfortable spending some money on a new car instead.

He doesn't like/want automatics. He was considering the Creta and City, and is waiting to know the price for the Vitara and Hyryder.
if that's the case the City Diesel would be the best sedan you can get in this segment and the Hyundai Creta/Kia Seltos Diesel are good options in the SUV space.

the Hyryder/Grand Vitara won't be as powerful as the Creta/Seltos as they are tuned towards fuel economy and relaxed drive more than anything else.
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Most definitely worth waiting for the Maruti Grand Vitara & Toyota Hyryder. They are going to enter the segment with a bang and are the talk of the town right now.

For your dad, a crossover is a must (easy ingress / egress & taller driving position) and I would strongly recommend an AT too. 90% of "MT-for-life" people I've met are now happy AT lovers, after they experienced good automatics. That includes yours truly . Other cars I'd recommend are the Creta, Seltos, Sonet, Hector, Astor & Carens. Show him our reviews, bring it down to 3 - 4 cars and go test-drive them all. Bring home the one that makes him smile the widest.

Keeping his troubles with the Vento in mind, be sure to get the maximum possible extended warranty.
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Your Dad seems to have his requirements sorted

Waiting for the Hyryder/Vitara makes absolute sense.
Outside of those two I would say the City but he already has it in his shortlist.
Creta would've been the default choice if he was looking for SUVs with easy ingress/egress and he has it in his list already.

The only option I can add is the XUV300 MT, petrol or diesel provided he likes the looks, size and the brand.

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1. Budget 15 lakhs OTR in Kerala which can be stretched by a maximum of 1 lakh.
2. Should not be sluggish, and should have adequate power for quick overtakes.
3. 5 seater, preferably diesel (his running just not justify a diesel, but he likes diesel cars)
4. No Volkswagen/Skoda cars

he seems to like the Hyryder/Vitara. Please recommend any other cars that can be considered.
Your best bet would be XUV300 Diesel. Itís 300nm of torque just plasters a grin on your face and is considerably highest in its segment (even superior to Creta Seltos).
Else have a look at Astor too. You would be spellbound by its amazing interior quality but I donít know which variant would be in your budget.
Lastly please convince him for AT. He would always thank you later.
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The Vento is getting replaced due to high cost of maintaining the car.

He was quoted a 1.5 lakh+ amount for ECU replacement, and although he managed to get it repaired outside the Volkswagen service center, he is scared of future troubles.
As a fellow Vento owner I would like to ask what exactly are you constituting as 'high cost of maintenance'? I would say that the routine maintenance of the car is pretty much in line with any other 'premium-ish' brand. With the opening of VAG specialist FNGs the general maintenance cost has become even cheaper than the company costs. The ECU replacement is not a common thing, how did this happen?

I would say that you found an answer in your post itself, I would definitely wait for the Grand Vitara or the toyota equivalent for the same, should be a worthy replacement!
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At his age, I wouldn't want your father to be bothered about reliability or niggles, so that would tilt me towards
Japanese cars over others.

Given his age, he might be more comfortable down the years with an automatic transmission.

But finally, I would like him to have his way, but provide him sufficient inputs for an informed decision, rather than you strictly dictating the car.
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Buy the Toyota Urban Cruiser K15B + 4 speed Torque Converter AT, if the rear passenger seat space is not a problem.

Advantages are:

1. Ingress-egress are good.
2. This engine+AT combination seems to be better than the new K15C+6 S AT.
3. The Engine+AT combo is good for city drives in Bangalore traffic.
4. UC AT costs within 12 Lakhs OTR in Gurgaon, whereas new Brezza ZXI AT is almost 16 lakhs OTR here.
5. A tension free "sasta-sundar-tikav" compact SUV with better ground clearance and almost bulletproof reliability.

Toyota HR/ Maruti Suzuki GV have advantages of relatively better leg space and well managed interior width for the rear passenger seat, bigger boot space, a little more premium dashboard and better ICE, and panoramic sunroof in topmost variant, paddle shifters for AT.

For this duo:

Ex-showroom price- unknown
Test drive- unavailable
YouTube expert test drive videos - unavailable
In showroom display car - unavailable (200 people jumping into a single car when it was brought in GGN for 1-2 days, boot was purposefully locked).
Pre-booking - Must, INR 11,000/- to secure a lucky spot to get it delivered within next 15 months (new Brezza AT waiting period is 15 months in GGN).

If primary user's height is within 5'8", Honda City ingress-egress may not be a big problem. However low GC will always remain a challenge.

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I would recommend the new Maruti Brezza Lxi MT which starts from 8L ex-showroom and can be had below 10L on-road with 30-40k of excellent accessories, which are available in abundance (check YouTube videos) including original steering mounted controls etc. I did the same with my 2020 Baleno and JVC Kenwood system with original Pioneer or Infinity Primus speakers blows their top of line OE systems out of the window - https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offic...ml#post4724447 (Maruti Baleno : Official Review) . Read about my Baleno base model Sigma upgrades here - https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modif...o-sigma-2.html (Mods, tweaks & upgrades for my Maruti Baleno Sigma) . If he wants he can stretch to Vxi AT for 2-3L extra but I really feel its not needed. He will consistently get mileage above 15kmpl, a chiller AC and absolute peace of mind (urgently required at this age) with a Maruti.

Happy car hunting... Cheers

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I see many suggestions pointing towards the Hyryder/Grand Vitara duo. They will be a great choice for:

1. Someone who is not used to the punch of the VAG 1.5 diesel
2. Someone who is okay to go beyond 20 big ones for the strong hybrid because the mild hybrid will likely feel very underpowered

Knowing Kerala roads, I understand why your father prefers a punchy engine (punchy engines give that extra sense of security for executing swift, clean overtakes on narrow roads).

Manual? --> City Diesel/ Kia Sonet or Hyundai Venue
Auto?--> Kia Sonet diesel AT hands down

Outside contenders --> Xuv 300 Diesel Manual (on the merits of the engine alone, the others mentioned above are superior in terms of what they offer as an overall package) or Nexon EV (if daily drives are well within 50% of quoted range) ask him to try one, im sure he will fall for the refinement and punch

All other potential options will go beyond your budget.
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After driving German cars getting back on light Japanese build doesn't feel reassuring. Can't suggest Tata/ Mahindra as chances of a lemon, frequent visits to service centers cannot be ruled out. As Skoda/ VW is out of the picture, Kia Seltos, Hyundai Verna/ Creta seems to be the best bet.
Allow him to taste automatic but don't force him if we wish for manual. Considering his age he surely knows a thing or two more than you.
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15 lakhs ?

I would recommend the tata altroz. I was bout to buy it but decided to go with my polo. Altroz was extremely spacious from the inside and my family loved it.

I also used to own a XUV500, you will get a used XUV in tiptop condition for that price.
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As a fellow Vento owner I would like to ask what exactly are you constituting as 'high cost of maintenance'? I would say that the routine maintenance of the car is pretty much in line with any other 'premium-ish' brand. With the opening of VAG specialist FNGs the general maintenance cost has become even cheaper than the company costs.
Have the same question. My Vento is almost 10 years old and never had a serious issue with the car till now. Touch wood! I compare with my friend's Honda City and the maintenance costs are almost same, in fact a tad lesser.

There are a lot of forum members suggesting different cars in this forum. My humble suggestion is to look into the safety of whatever car you buy. Both Hyundai and Maruti fail miserably except for a few cars from their brand and you cannot expect the same solid and safe feeling you get in a a Vento from several of the cars suggested in this thread. An AT would be good but AMTs are mostly not satisfying. Wish you good luck!
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