[someshgoplani]

Hi Members,

Writing my first post today so apologies for any formatting errors and grammatical mistakes.

I reside in Mumbai and I recently started a new job. My daily commute is now between Andheri and Thane which is approx. 63 kms in total. I was considering purchasing a 2017 Maruti Suzuki Swift Dzire Diesel AMT which I am able to purchase for ₹5 lakhs which has around 50,000 kms on the odometer.

My majority run is on the highway and wanted advice if there are any other options and if the aforementioned deal is worth considering. I'm looking for a high mileage and automatic only car. My budget is around 5 lakhs.

I have tried travelling from metros and trains but it's too hectic and crowded. Just looking to find a comfortable way of travelling.

Requesting anybody's assistance and advice in this situation.

Cheers.

[dr.aviansh]

Hey. Dzire Diesel AMT is a rare practical, comfortable, economical yet fun car that existed till recently and has become even more aspiring since the discontinuation of the DDiS. It should good be in the range of 4.5 lacs.

That said, I doubt the ODO reading of this particular car, since it's supposed to be a beater's choice. Had the running been in 50,000 km in 6 years, he would have bought a petrol Dzire. Can't believe a Dzire Diesel did only this much that too in Mumbai.

Still, do check for accidents as well, as IMO no person in their right sense of mind would sell a low run Dzire Diesel AMT car only when a sensible upgrade like a Nexon diesel is costing 15L OTR.

Double check this car, don't let it go either.

If found accidental then for new cars under 5 Lac, you might get an Alto AMT. A new car has its peace of mind, it'll spare you the time and money to deal with other hassles of life.

You might also see Kwid AMT. Feels superior to an Alto, in terms of comfort and ownership. Mind you it doesn't get a CREEP function which is a boon in Mumbai traffic.

If you get a good deal on an unused 2022 Ignis (it sells much lesser than Swift and WagonR.)
It would be a great choice.

If none, then check for something on Spinny. Not advertising it, but they don't deal in accidental cars as far my knowledge stands.

Good luck.

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by dr.aviansh

That said, I doubt the ODO reading of this particular car, since it's supposed to be a beater's choice. Had the running been in 50,000 km in 6 years, he would have bought a petrol Dzire. Can't believe a Dzire Diesel did only this much that too in Mumbai.

I know many folks who simply buy diesel regardless of what their actual running is. I have a friend who is a car enthusiast no less that bought a diesel i20 and probably barely puts 2k kms on the clock every year. Also covid changed a lot of people's driving patterns in the last 4 years. For all you know the DZire could have been bought and used as much as a diesel car ought to have been and then once the pandemic was in full swing, its usage might have dropped. I have seen new but discontinued Civic diesels on Honda autoterrace website with hardly 11k kms on the clock going for a steal. Also it could even be the AMT transmission itself I have another friend who uses his cars a lot and owns an Ignis with AMT but since the past 4 years it has not cracked the 70k kms mark been somewhere in the 60 thousands itself. He has been saying he wants to sell it and when I asked if I could buy it for my Mom and Dad since the easy ingress/egress is important to them, he said don't bother because he's been having issues with the gearbox that the SVC has not been able to resolve and that is the reason he is trying to sell it. So perhaps the owner of the car the OP is looking at also got fed up with the AMT tranny?
All that said, you're right; when buying used, best to be vigilant.

Are there no other diesel vehicles within 5 lacs that come with a torque converter?

[DCEite]

Originally Posted by someshgoplani

Hi Members,

Writing my first post today so apologies for any formatting errors and grammatical mistakes.

I reside in Mumbai and I recently started a new job. My daily commute is now between Andheri and Thane which is approx. 63 kms in total. I was considering purchasing a 2017 Maruti Suzuki Swift Dzire Diesel AMT which I am able to purchase for ₹5 lakhs which has around 50,000 kms on the odometer.

My majority run is on the highway and wanted advice if there are any other options and if the aforementioned deal is worth considering. I'm looking for a high mileage and automatic only car. My budget is around 5 lakhs.

I have tried travelling from metros and trains but it's too hectic and crowded. Just looking to find a comfortable way of travelling.

Requesting anybody's assistance and advice in this situation.

Cheers.

When it comes to commuting long distances on a daily basis, fuel efficiency and reliability are two crucial factors to consider. Based on the information you have provided, the 2017 Maruti Suzuki Swift Dzire Diesel AMT seems like a good option for your requirements. The Swift Dzire is known for its fuel efficiency, and the diesel variant should offer a good mileage on highways.

However, before making a purchase, it is important to ensure that the car is in good condition and has been well-maintained. A thorough inspection and test drive can help you assess the car's overall condition, and you can also check the service history and ownership details. Do also note that AMT's are not as smooth as conventional ATs, and some of the earlier AMT iterations of Maruti cars had problematic gearboxes. Please thoroughly check the gearbox by a known mechanic.

You can also look at Tigor AMT or Tiago AMT. Both of these come with better safety than the DZire. Although these come with Petrol only option. Not sure about CNG prices in your city, but you can consider that as an aftermarket option in case you go for a Petrol powered car.


Also beware if in future any NGT regulations are imposed in Maharashtra (like Delhi-NCR), the life of Diesel vehicle to ply legally on roads may reduce accordingly.

[Aakash118]

Jazz CVT is the car to go for given your usage on highways. It’s a much safer car than most of the Marutis you will find at this price. It’s usually quite reliable too.

[ashivas89]

Your parameters are a little stringent

60-70 km mixed daily commute means Diesel+AT makes sense

However, 5L budget --> not too many reliable (Reliable = reputed manufacturer+young car+low mileage) diesel ATs at this price

Maruti DDIS AMTs are the only ones that seem to fall under this bracket.

Honda Amaze diesel CVT is perfect for your use case, but they start at around the 8L mark.

Compromise? Petrol CVTs

If you are open to petrol options, the Jazz CVT and Baleno CVT are great options. Hyundai G i10 with the 4 speed TC is also a very comfortable car, but sucks when it comes to FE.

Ruling out older C segment AT cars because they will neither be fuel efficient nor will they be reliable.

Also ruling out new cars because you get nothing worth considering @5L IMO.

[GhostGrid]

As already mentioned by a member, a Maruti Suzuki Swift Dzire Diesel AMT with only 50K on the odometer after 6 years seems suspicious and is difficult to believe. Before making the decision to purchase it, you must examine every last detail. Go for a new Kwid if you can increase the limit; otherwise, a used car with a good history is your best bet.*I wish you good luck.

[deep_bang]

For your usage, of 65* 30 days = 1950km per month and will approximately cost about 19.5k at Rs.10km per liter. May be a little here or there.

Assuming you are ready to put in 5L, I wonder if it's a possibility to take a loan of another 5L (which should have an Emi of say 15k or so - I have not calculated, just thinking aloud here), and buy the Tiago EV which will give you very low running costs and it's an automatic by default and use the fuel money to fund the emi.

It might just workout well for you. Just do some calculations and see if it makes sense. Also, depends on whether you can install charging infrastructure at home or not. Public infrastructure charging may push your costs up.

[someshgoplani]

Originally Posted by Aakash118

Jazz CVT is the car to go for given your usage on highways. It’s a much safer car than most of the Marutis you will find at this price. It’s usually quite reliable too.

Thank you for your response.

My family already has a 2017 Honda Jazz S CVT and a XUV 700 AX5 D AT. Both the cars are currently being used by my father and brother. The Jazz has very bad mileage of just 10 km/l and with the current prices of petrol it just doesn't seem worth spending almost 1/2 of my salary on just petrol.

Originally Posted by dr.aviansh

Hey. Dzire Diesel AMT is a rare practical, comfortable, economical yet fun car that existed till recently and has become even more aspiring since the discontinuation of the DDiS. It should good be in the range of 4.5 lacs.

Thank you for your reply,

Just wanted to know your views on the 2018 Mahindra E-Verito C2 and 2019 Tata Tigor EV XM (Commercial Vehicle model).

[grshnehete]

Originally Posted by deep_bang

For your usage, of 65* 30 days = 1950km per month and will approximately cost about 19.5k at Rs.10km per liter. May be a little here or there.

Assuming you are ready to put in 5L, I wonder if it's a possibility to take a loan of another 5L (which should have an Emi of say 15k or so - I have not calculated, just thinking aloud here), and buy the Tiago EV which will give you very low running costs and it's an automatic by default and use the fuel money to fund the emi.

I second this thought. As the running is in the city, there will be no range anxiety as you will need to charge it every 2 or 3 days and also the running cost would be very cheap as compared to normal ICE cars.
And above all you will have a new car automatic car.

[rishil.ghurki]

As a few other BHPians have mentioned, I think an EV makes the perfect sense. The Dzire does seem a little 'too good to be true'!

I would not recommend the 2019 Tigor EV XPress-T (commercial) as it's more of a primitive EV with a BLDC motor (if I remember correctly). I don't know much about the e-Verito apart from the fact that most e-Taxis use it.

The Tiago EV is great for your usage, the LR version to be specific. 19kWh battery is just a little too small.

If you're strict about your budget, then I would definitely not recommend anything but AMTs, as CVTs and TCs are mostly gas guzzlers.
The Ignis or Swift Petrol AMTs aren't rare to find in this price range, but they might have high odo readings. Nevertheless, they are reliable and fuel-efficient cars which are easy to maintain.

Hope this helps!

[ObsessedByFIAT]

Having owned two petrol AMT cars, I wouldn't suggest buying a second hand AMT and a diesel one at that. These AMT units are not the final word in reliability even when purchased new.

If you absolutely need an automatic, I would suggest looking for cars like the jazz, i20 etc in the petrol avatar.

Else the best bet would be to get a Tiago EV if the intended use is only for within city drives.

[MotoBlip]

I would advice you to stay away from Hyundai TC cars especially the petrol ones since they give terrible mileage, my i20 AT even with a light foot gives 7-8 kmpl in the city at best. Annual Service costs too are on the higher side and if some electronics fails which in due time will happen, be ready for a hefty bill.

Jazz CVT or Baleno CVT as other have also advised would the best option for you and contrary to popular belief, CVTs can be very frugal when driven as intended(my Baleno CVT easily manages 15-16kmpl in the city, and around 20-21kmpl on the highways), find a good example and get it inspected at an A.S.S, even if you have to pay an additional amount for this inspection, pay it as it will help you steer clear of lemons and frauds.

[BatmanTDK]

Hello there, an existing Dzire Diesel AMT (or as suzuki likes to call it 'AGS') owner here!

We had bought the car for 7.85 Lakhs back in Jan 2020 from Maruti True Value, pre-owned with about 33k kms on it, a 2018 model.
Till date it has only run about 47k kms because my dad bought it for its high fuel efficiency & not because we had a lot of running, also somewhat due to the lockdown.
As Nashik barely has any traffic & both of us have 'trained' our right foot to be light in these past 2 years, it routinely gives around 23-25 kmpl even in the city.
Even with a very heavy right foot we've never seen it drop below 19 kmpl!

The reason we got such a good deal on the car was because it had a slight fender bender on the left front side but the previous owner & maruti true value were very transparent about it & as the car gets mostly (90%) used in the city, safety ratings didn't matter.

As far as the AMT performance, it varies on how you drive it. Driven aggressively, you feel the prominent head-nod & the gearbox struggling a bit, but driven peacefully & with a light foot you absolutely don't feel the gear chnages (based on experiences driving other amt cars also) probably the best amt out there.

[GivethThyBeans]

If you decide to consider petrol AMT instead, I would recommend Ignis AMT. You would get very good mileage on highway & not so bad in city - compared to TC or CVT. I easily get 20+ on highway. It is very stable car & has modern features if you get mid or top version. I have 2020 version with 30k odo so far, absolutely no issues with AMT yet. Once you understand the gearbox shifting dynamics, it's quite enjoyable to drive with it's 1.2 L engine.