Automatic or Manual - Which is faster?

DKG · 3rd January 2009, 15:05

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Originally Posted by siddartha

see? everybody wants everything in one car ! ha ha

Yeah sure...the only difference is I'd want my sportscar even more raw then, almost like a race car for the road, lightened, raucous and totally flat on corners. No electronics. All manual

A sedan that handles like a sports car and a sports car that handles like a kart. Now were talking!

siddartha · 3rd January 2009, 15:21

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Originally Posted by DKG

Yeah sure...the only difference is I'd want my sportscar even more raw then, almost like a race car for the road, lightened, raucous and totally flat on corners. No electronics. All manual

A sedan that handles like a sports car and a sports car that handles like a kart. Now were talking!

oo yess! i hear you, havoc!

siddartha · 3rd January 2009, 16:15

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Thad E Ginathom · 3rd January 2009, 22:59

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Originally Posted by DKG

Please read: Now who actually doesn't want to not know when he is going from one gear to another?

During normal driving in an auto, me!

That's part of driving an auto, surely. I want it to give me acceleration on demand; if it needs to change down to do that, so-be-it, I don't care. I can observer the tacho if I want, or listen to the engine sound of course, I am not unaware, just not interested.

But, these days, I drive a manual.

(err... a car with a manual gear box, just in case anybody else got a sudden mental pic of Thad riding an instruction book down the road

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ImmortalZ · 5th January 2009, 17:56

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Originally Posted by headers

Not really ImmortalZ, there are faster accelarating cars. The H automatic is so sedate that one can go to sleep! It does touch 120 fast!

Maybe.

But this is the fastest car I have ever driven. It's all relative, see?

equinox22 · 1st April 2009, 01:02

@Immortalz: When you did redline it what speeds did you attain per gear? It will be interesting to compare it with the manual.

manim · 1st April 2009, 13:38

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Originally Posted by equinox22

@Immortalz: When you did redline it what speeds did you attain per gear? It will be interesting to compare it with the manual.

In Civic AT, here are the speedo readings at max-redline: (approx 6,750 rpm)
1st gear - 66 kmph
2nd gear - 116 kmph
3rd gear - 173 kmph

Of course in 3rd gear it can only be done on safe roads!

Please let me know the speeds attained in the manual.

equinox22 · 1st April 2009, 21:20

My speeds per gear are as follows:
1st: 57 kmph
2nd: 94 kmph
3rd: 147 kmph
4th: 205 kmph
I could not go to 5th and 6th.

However I have a close ratio gearbox. Can a member with the Civic 1.8 MT post their speeds for the same?

ram_hyundai · 4th May 2009, 15:44

It sure depends on the make of the car.My experience with an auto is a santro AT.I owned a santro manual at that time and this auto was my relatives car.Initial feel is that AT is faster off the block but arround 60kmph the manual takes the lead as the AT is straining after that.The AT becomes smooth after arround 70kmph but by that time manual would half a km ahead.Cant say which is faster.The statement under question is which is faster and faster till 60kmph or 100 kmph or faster off the block-and that depends on the usage etc.
An AT would be comfortable in city and from a traffic light i am sure AT would be faster.On a high way i feel the MT would be a better one.
ram

rajeshwagh · 11th June 2009, 21:31

Hi Guys

Would like to hear feedback on Scorpio Automatic, I want to get rid of my driver. My usage is 500 in city and 500 on highway. Budget around 10-11 lacs.

Regards
Rajesh

Rude7 · 12th June 2009, 07:13

At is comfortable for learners.I find MT difficult.

headers · 12th June 2009, 21:04

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Originally Posted by rajeshwagh

Hi Guys

Would like to hear feedback on Scorpio Automatic, I want to get rid of my driver. My usage is 500 in city and 500 on highway. Budget around 10-11 lacs.

Heard the mHawk Automatic is great! Yet to TD it though!

Dante · 12th June 2009, 21:43

I believe manuals are faster. They are much more fun to drive. What's the fun in just sitting back holding the steering wheel? A manual is more in my control, I can push it to limits and it is more responsive to me IMHO.
even the article I read in top gear, clarkson leans towards manuals. anyway automatic are good too, but I never enjoy them.
There's something magical about manuals.

MileCruncher · 13th June 2009, 17:47

Well the question is slightly tricky as it is driver dependent. Automatics are kind of driver proof and take mili seconds to upshift. In automatics, CVT's are the best (personal opinion). In the hand of a skilled driver manuals would be faster but still upshift will not be as quick as in auto.

headers · 14th June 2009, 07:47

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Originally Posted by MileCruncher

Well the question is slightly tricky as it is driver dependent.

Thats precisely why i thought of this thread. Anyways, good to see a varied opinion and response to the question.

Though I feel more secure in an MT at high speeds [read above 140 kph], ATs are a breeze in the irritating slow moving traffic.

At highways too, modern ATs such as the Civic are good!

Ofcourse, i'd prefer the MT for track

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equinox22 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago/Pune Posts: 165 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	@Immortalz: When you did redline it what speeds did you attain per gear? It will be interesting to compare it with the manual.
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equinox22 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago/Pune Posts: 165 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	My speeds per gear are as follows: 1st: 57 kmph 2nd: 94 kmph 3rd: 147 kmph 4th: 205 kmph I could not go to 5th and 6th. However I have a close ratio gearbox. Can a member with the Civic 1.8 MT post their speeds for the same?
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4th May 2009, 15:44	#99
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	It sure depends on the make of the car.My experience with an auto is a santro AT.I owned a santro manual at that time and this auto was my relatives car.Initial feel is that AT is faster off the block but arround 60kmph the manual takes the lead as the AT is straining after that.The AT becomes smooth after arround 70kmph but by that time manual would half a km ahead.Cant say which is faster.The statement under question is which is faster and faster till 60kmph or 100 kmph or faster off the block-and that depends on the usage etc. An AT would be comfortable in city and from a traffic light i am sure AT would be faster.On a high way i feel the MT would be a better one. ram
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rajeshwagh Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: gurgaon Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	Scorpio Automatic Hi Guys Would like to hear feedback on Scorpio Automatic, I want to get rid of my driver. My usage is 500 in city and 500 on highway. Budget around 10-11 lacs. Regards Rajesh
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12th June 2009, 07:13	#101
Rude7 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vijayawada Posts: 110 Thanked: Once View My Garage	At is comfortable for learners.I find MT difficult.
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12th June 2009, 21:43	#103
Dante BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nasik Posts: 393 Thanked: 86 Times	I believe manuals are faster. They are much more fun to drive. What's the fun in just sitting back holding the steering wheel? A manual is more in my control, I can push it to limits and it is more responsive to me IMHO. even the article I read in top gear, clarkson leans towards manuals. anyway automatic are good too, but I never enjoy them. There's something magical about manuals.
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13th June 2009, 17:47	#104
MileCruncher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MH01 Posts: 4,235 Thanked: 592 Times View My Garage	Well the question is slightly tricky as it is driver dependent. Automatics are kind of driver proof and take mili seconds to upshift. In automatics, CVT's are the best (personal opinion). In the hand of a skilled driver manuals would be faster but still upshift will not be as quick as in auto.
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