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Originally Posted by raj_5004 ingress and egress is equal is both cars, both having similar seat heights. the scorpio's rear seats should be more spacious whereas the safari's heavy front doors are a pain to shut after being seated.
out of the above mentioned list, the laura will have a better ride at high speeds than the scorpio and safari. however at city speeds, its low profile tyres and hard springs wont be as good as the SUVs with tall springs and cushion tyres.
speaking about service, both tata and mahindra are not good as compared to a honda, toyota or hyundai. they both are cheap, safari's spares being costlier comparitively but still cheap! but the scorpio is more reliable and less prone to giving troubles, but its no toyota either! i feel if you can adjust with the front legroom and average ride of scorpio, then go for it.
else, the safari is the choice as you get enough space and a pampering ride. |
Thanks, that was informative. climbing in & out is a chore so to speak! How is Safari's manouverability in City?
In case of Laura, Im more concerned towards in City ride quality, but as you rightly mentioned, low profile tyres indicate to stiff ride. But, Ive rode Octy. & its slow speed ride is comfy, going by this should'nt Laura's ride be an improvement over Octy!
True, that Tata/M&M need to do lot of catching up when it comes to After SS compared to International manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by headers Guess the Safari and Scorpio are the only vehicles with a slightly better low speed ride quality. Personally the Skoda range did not appeal to me :( for low speed dynamics |
Thanks, yes till now only Safari/Scorpio have figuered highly on Members sugggestions list.
Im not to sure about Skoda products, never owned one. Only Skoda owners can elaborate!
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Originally Posted by tsk1979 From a drivers POV, there is not much difference between Safari and Scorpio.
While Safari's back support etc., are better, scorpio scores in 1st gear engagement and the ultra light clutch.
However from a front passengers POV, scorpio sucks. MY knees were almost touching the dash, and the feeling was of being in a small hatch rather than a big SUV.
Scorpio rear seat ride was also considerable more bumpy, esp at low speeds.
Maintaining a Skoda is not really cheap. Infact it was in Ludhiana that Laura owners gave a dharna outside skoda showroom. There is a thread on that too somewhere around here.
For typically rural road setting, where frequent suspension abuse will take place, I would not recommend a skoda. The part costs will be a killer.
However a point to note here is that bhp1 will get better discounts on the Scorpio since Punjab is Safari bastion. If you look at the sales figures, you will see that if it were not for Punjab, the sales of Safari would be pithy as compared to Scorpio. Its one of the states where Safari beats the scorpio by a huge margin. This means getting any discount without "approach" is very difficult. |
Thanks, true, lack of front seat legroom has kept me off from Scorpio from quite sometime. Some tall customers retro adjusted Scorpio's drivers seats, but this does'nt appeal to me. It is like tampering with original equipment & settings, safety might get compromised.
Oh, Ludhiana story about Skoda is news to me! Must have happened as the Dealer in Ludhiana enjoys Majority/Monoply status in Punjab, so the attitude is expected!
Im also wary of Skoda's high maintenance costs.
You are pretty right on Safari's Punjab fortunes, even I used to wonder many a times as to why customers show so much interest in the Safari in Punjab, opposed to consumers Countrywide. But a satisfactory answer always eroded me!
Still discounts on both the vehicles in Punjab are almost the same. Maybe in other areas Safari commands more discounts, due to lesser sales.
Actually, I think Safari finds more favour in Punjab, as earlier Scorpio earned a bad repo of turning turtle at slightest of enthuiasm. Also, its breaks were ridiculed bigtime. Maybe there are other causes too.
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Originally Posted by windsurfer Xylo is around the corner. Did you consider that anytime? IMHO, should have a decent ride. |
Thanks, yes Xylo is on my agenda, but a clear picture will emerge only after launch!
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Originally Posted by raj_5004 yes, what TSK mentioned is true. punjab is the only state where safari sales are more than scorpio. and this must be due to some valid reason.
i dont know what is it. maybe the lifestyle, roads, different criteria, but since BHP1 has a budget of 15 lakhs, i dont think he should look at discounts and go for any can. both the scorpio and safari top end variants will come well under 15 lakhs, with or without discounts. |
Thanks again, yes new Safari's can be spotted in Punjab every now & then, even more than many other successful models.
Lifestyle, as you mentioned, could be one of the leading reasons. Also as I earlier said, Scorpio earned bad repo. to begin with with lot many cars toppling over.
Another reason is that sales of both Safari & Scorpio are more in Villages in Punjab. Now, villagers generally have bigger family sizes & travel with more people onboard, so maybe space has also been an issue.